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Old 03-14-2013, 03:37 PM   #51
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What would you call your '08 STI? A trunk less sedan?
Functionally, it's exactly the same as any other wagon.

In use, it's exactly the same as any other wagon.

In comparing features, it's exactly the same as any other wagon.

Therefore, it's a wagon.

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I see what you did there, I hope.

This is about as close to the correct definition of "shooting brake" as you can get a Toyobaru, assuming Tada's version would be similar:

I like to use irregardless when having vocabulary discussions. when I chose that word, I didn't choose it for any particular reason, but it does offer a good point. irregardless is a word because millions of people use it every day to mean 'regardless' so the dictionary picked it up. Very organic, just how the English language (or any other language should be).

Shooting Brake, on the other hand, once was a word that meant one specific thing, now it's used by marketing people to describe a type of car that has very little to do with the origin of the word. Not organic at all, IMO. Contrived, or synthetic are words I would use to describe Shooting Brake as it is used today.
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Old 03-14-2013, 04:12 PM   #52
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To me, a wagon is the same length or longer than the sedan. Your's is truncated. The 1st and 2nd gen Imprezas were wagons because it kept the footprint of the sedan but added a covered cargo area. Think of it like a Golf, Jetta, and Jetta Sportwagen. Your STI is closer to Golf than Sportwagen.
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Old 03-14-2013, 04:29 PM   #53
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turbo shooting brake!!! i'd put a deposit down now!
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Old 03-14-2013, 07:15 PM   #54
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What's wrong with dry carbon? I thought it was the easiest way to describe prepreg carbon composite as opposed to "wet carbon".. where it's basically just a bunch of epoxy, maybe some fiberglass or kevlar and some carbon weave on the top layer.. What's a better term?
dry carbon is just that. Dry fibers. Prepreg already has resin on the cloth. Being in the aerospace/racing/composite industry for the last 20+ years. It just rubs me like having your arms covered in carbon dust from trimming parts.

I'd still rock a wagoncoupe.
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Old 03-15-2013, 12:35 AM   #55
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Functionally, it's exactly the same as any other wagon.

In use, it's exactly the same as any other wagon.

In comparing features, it's exactly the same as any other wagon.

Therefore, it's a wagon.



I like to use irregardless when having vocabulary discussions. when I chose that word, I didn't choose it for any particular reason, but it does offer a good point. irregardless is a word because millions of people use it every day to mean 'regardless' so the dictionary picked it up. Very organic, just how the English language (or any other language should be).

Shooting Brake, on the other hand, once was a word that meant one specific thing, now it's used by marketing people to describe a type of car that has very little to do with the origin of the word. Not organic at all, IMO. Contrived, or synthetic are words I would use to describe Shooting Brake as it is used today.
Your wagon is too short, so it's a hatchback.

Never bothered to read up on shooting brake: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting-brake Not at all what I expected.


Rolls Silver ghost "Shooting Brake"...actually used for carrying shooters to hunt.
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Old 03-15-2013, 12:43 PM   #56
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I'd take a 4 door shooting wagon version of the BRZ. If a battery booster could be implemented for acceleration purposes, would buy. Something like a tiny A7 but with trunkated hatch rear instead of a sloping line to an exacto cut.

I grew up with 240/280 Z's as grocery getters. I have an affinity for the shooting brake. As much as I would love to rock a BRZ with 2 carseats in the rear, something just as sporty but way more practical would be worthy of a car payment. A Grand Tourer would be way cool, IMOMG.
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Old 03-15-2013, 01:38 PM   #57
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while I'm dreaming.. How about forget the hybrid and just drop in the flat 6 with a helping of six forward gears.

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