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Old 09-17-2013, 06:51 AM   #726
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G2Spfld,

Are you getting EPA highway mpgs with your CVT?

If not, what mpg's are you seeing, and @ what average speeds?
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Old 09-17-2013, 07:05 AM   #727
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G2Spfld,

Are you getting EPA highway mpgs with your CVT?

If not, what mpg's are you seeing, and @ what average speeds?
Last hwy only drive, 4 people with air on, rack off, and cruise set at 68 in a 65 zone I received 39 mpg, then when speed went up to 70 set cruise at 74 and dropped mpg to 37.2. Yesterday, air off, alone and rack on for a 60 mile hwy trip I received 40.2 mpg. I avg 29-31 in city driving since last oil change.

So yes, I'm normally at or above EPA hwy mpg, especially when I take my roof rack off.
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Old 09-17-2013, 07:23 AM   #728
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Last hwy only drive, 4 people with air on, rack off, and cruise set at 68 in a 65 zone I received 39 mpg, then when speed went up to 70 set cruise at 74 and dropped mpg to 37.2. Yesterday, air off, alone and rack on for a 60 mile hwy trip I received 40.2 mpg. I avg 29-31 in city driving since last oil change.

So yes, I'm normally at or above EPA hwy mpg, especially when I take my roof rack off.
So where are the CVT owners who drive the car, with cruise on @~70mph on the highway, who do not get EPA or better?

After all, isn't there an MPG problem?
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Old 09-17-2013, 08:02 AM   #729
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So where are the CVT owners who drive the car, with cruise on @~70mph on the highway, who do not get EPA or better?

After all, isn't there an MPG problem?
No problem with mine, but I guess that's because I drove a 3/4 ton 4wd Hemi before that. Had I driven a corolla and not been a dumb caveman maybe I would be able to figure out the logic in blaming a car company because it followed the gov regulations in providing "comparison" mpg's. I have no problems with the corolla, or any other cars for that matter. I buy what I like or need at the time. If it doesn't fit within my needs, then I do something about it. I don't sit around and complain.
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Old 09-17-2013, 08:54 AM   #730
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No problem with mine, but I guess that's because I drove a 3/4 ton 4wd Hemi before that. Had I driven a corolla and not been a dumb caveman maybe I would be able to figure out the logic in blaming a car company because it followed the gov regulations in providing "comparison" mpg's. I have no problems with the corolla, or any other cars for that matter. I buy what I like or need at the time. If it doesn't fit within my needs, then I do something about it. I don't sit around and complain.
But you don't seem to understand, the corrolla exceeds estimates at speeds up to 85mph. Also the impreza should only be rated at 30mpg on the highway, then it would compare with other cars better because all of those cars are fwd...


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Old 09-17-2013, 09:39 AM   #731
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Well, they say ignorance is bliss.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/comparison
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Old 09-17-2013, 09:57 AM   #732
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Well, they say ignorance is bliss.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/comparison
I'm glad you looked that up, I only wish you would have known about that before you bought yours, it would have saved you soooo much money and heartache, and free'd up lots of your time ;-)
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Old 09-17-2013, 10:03 AM   #733
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Or, you could compare the speeds you drive the car, with the speeds the EPA uses as a reference for their HWY MPG estimates...

See if something is a little "off" between your speed and theirs...
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Old 09-17-2013, 03:37 PM   #734
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Or, you could compare the speeds you drive the car, with the speeds the EPA uses as a reference for their HWY MPG estimates...

See if something is a little "off" between your speed and theirs...
You cannot be that stupid. It has been said several times just in the last few days that the EPA estimates are "for comparison only". That's so a person can compare car "A" with car "B". They are not for comparison with how an individual drives, and any attempt to make it so is just inane.
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Old 09-17-2013, 03:40 PM   #735
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I'm glad you looked that up, I only wish you would have known about that before you bought yours, it would have saved you soooo much money and heartache, and free'd up lots of your time ;-)
See previous post...

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Old 09-17-2013, 03:54 PM   #736
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You cannot be that stupid. It has been said several times just in the last few days that the EPA estimates are "for comparison only". That's so a person can compare car "A" with car "B". They are not for comparison with how an individual drives, and any attempt to make it so is just inane.
You are absolutely right, for once, maybe by accident.

I am not that stupid.

The EPA testing is meant to simulate highway speeds of ~60mph, and the Impreza CVT has been shown to yield better than EPA HWY mpg's when driven sub 70mph.

So the problem seems to be you want to compare your mpg's @~80mph with the EPA simulated 60mph mpg's that are printed on your window sticker...

Who would be stupid enough to compare those two and complain that the results don't match?

CVT MPG problem solved -- there isn't one, the fault lies in your failure to comprehend ~80mph does not equal ~60mph, by a factor of 20mph...

P.S. You keep quoting "for comparison only" like it is some legalize you discovered that will get the EPA to make Subaru send you a check.

That is kinda strange, all they need to do is quote the window sticker to you "Actual results will vary for many reasons, including driving conditions and how you drive and maintain your vehicle." This disclaimer covers, for example, high speed drivers like you...

I know neither of us are lawyers, but I'll happily wager their disclaimer beats your catch phrase...Particularly because your catch phrase does not appear, but that disclaimer is printed on the window sticker of every new car sold in the United States this year (and last, the prior years had similar language).

One might think they wanted new car buyers to notice it, since they so carefully worded it and placed it there in plain sight, and also mandated that new car manufactures stuck that sticker on the window before the car could be sold to unsuspecting folks like you.

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Old 09-17-2013, 04:09 PM   #737
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See previous post...

So, you compared them your saying based on the EPA tests and then bought it? I would think you, being the intellect you are, would have read reviews about the car before you purchased. I mean, what if reliability was a black circle?
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Old 09-17-2013, 04:53 PM   #738
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You cannot be that stupid. It has been said several times just in the last few days that the EPA estimates are "for comparison only". That's so a person can compare car "A" with car "B". They are not for comparison with how an individual drives, and any attempt to make it so is just inane.
How retarded are you? It's not even funny anymore
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Old 09-17-2013, 06:23 PM   #739
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How retarded are you? It's not even funny anymore
Nah, he's just "hella pissed" that his old Corolla's "sweet spot" is higher up in the MPH range than his Impreza's "sweet spot". He can't seem to understand that the EPA test is based on parameters that are standardized, and that once you step outside of those parameters, you can't extrapolate those values and expect the same comparatives; too many variables involved.

But what do I know? I'm not an engineer.
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Old 09-17-2013, 07:01 PM   #740
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Nah, he's just "hella pissed" that his old Corolla's "sweet spot" is higher up in the MPH range than his Impreza's "sweet spot". He can't seem to understand that the EPA test is based on parameters that are standardized, and that once you step outside of those parameters, you can't extrapolate those values and expect the same comparatives; too many variables involved.

But what do I know? I'm not an engineer.
Are you a caveman then too? Rofl
It's ok, I have a hella man cave, I've been in the A/V industry for 16 yrs, I have some good stuff in the cave. And Stevehm thought he was minimizing me, however he was so right and didn't know it. The "caves" pay my bills. ;-)
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Are you a caveman then too? Rofl
No, I'm worse than that. I live in Canadia, eh?, north of the 49th but still within "manifest destiny". We here use funny units and speak funny languages, and our English has "u"s where most modern-day spell-checkers (ie. Micro$oft) least expects them. We're such savages, we even burned down some government's buildings 200 years ago when we ravaged their capital city. The horror!

What do we know about MPGs and MPHs and all that shizzle?
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Old 09-17-2013, 07:27 PM   #742
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Gotcha-

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Old 09-18-2013, 08:26 AM   #743
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So, you compared them your saying based on the EPA tests and then bought it? I would think you, being the intellect you are, would have read reviews about the car before you purchased. I mean, what if reliability was a black circle?
One might also have considered, if one was quick on the uptake, that an AWD car might suffer a relatively higher MPG drop than a FWD car once the tested EPA MPH was exceeded, given the inherent additional drivetrain friction.

So if he was buying based upon the Estimated 36mpg HWY, but planning on exceeding the EPA tested ~60mph highway, he wasn't very astute.
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Old 09-18-2013, 08:30 AM   #744
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One might also have considered, if one was quick on the uptake, that an AWD car might suffer a relatively higher MPG drop than a FWD car once the tested EPA MPH was exceeded, given the inherent additional drivetrain friction.

So if he was buying based upon the Estimated 36mpg HWY, but planning on exceeding the EPA tested ~60mph highway, he wasn't very astute.
But that is in the estimate according to some....

Pretty sure we tried pointing that out from the get go, and a certain individual attempted to invalidate that point
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Old 09-18-2013, 08:49 AM   #745
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True, but convenient how their testing is inaccurate and thus yields the imp a higher than earned mpg rating, however their formula that is built in somehow that accounts for awd is totally accurate and not flawed at all. Conveinence
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Old 09-20-2013, 09:53 AM   #746
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Now that I started driving only city I'm getting 21mpg... Lovely. A 6L m-b AMG can get better city mpg.
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Old 09-20-2013, 05:34 PM   #747
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Now that I started driving only city I'm getting 21mpg... Lovely. A 6L m-b AMG can get better city mpg.
You have an issue for sure. I'd bet the engine is either about to blow up, or your cvt is burned up. You probably need to trade it off as quick as you can to save yourself the stress and agony of complaining about it. Maybe if your driving only city, a Prius or another hybrid would be a much better fit. You can spend more time on battery, maybe a volt. I sure would trade mine off if it were getting 21 in the city, however my cvt while driving it hard in m mode in the city hasn't dropped below 28.9 lately.
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Old 09-20-2013, 05:38 PM   #748
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Now that I started driving only city I'm getting 21mpg... Lovely. A 6L m-b AMG can get better city mpg.
what is your average speed for such a tank? the lowest tank i've ever gotten was 24mpg where the average speed was 17mph. and this was with me forgetting that i had defrost on continually (which means A/C was on all the time)?

as much as i think the stop and go mileage is poor on the Impreza, i'd be surprised if a 6l AMG could get 21 mpg in really poor stop and go conditions. but i don't speak from actual experience ... just guessing.
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Average speed was 20mph. Trips were only 4 miles each so maybe that was it. But still I know people with v6s getting better city.

And it's not that most of my miles are city, it's just I'll be doing it a lot for a while.
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Average speed was 20mph. Trips were only 4 miles each so maybe that was it. But still I know people with v6s getting better city.

And it's not that most of my miles are city, it's just I'll be doing it a lot for a while.
On that kind of commute my old car, even when it was new, would get 15mpg, and it was rated at 21mpg city I think. Buick regal with a 3.8l v6
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