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Old 03-14-2013, 11:24 AM   #26
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I want a MT...

And this thread went way off topic. lol
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Old 03-14-2013, 04:06 PM   #27
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I enjoy the change to 19mm rsb...no more slight screeches when taking corners. Short shift would be a wonderful upgrade.
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Old 03-14-2013, 05:30 PM   #28
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For those thinking of adding or upgrading the RSB, just do it. It's $100 and an hour of your time.
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Old 03-14-2013, 07:07 PM   #29
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Today I got the perrin short shifter kit bushings installed. Wow...Just do it. It transforms a vague and rubbery transmission into a sporty and responsive short shifter capable of competing against the best. This upgrade was most definitely worth it.
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Old 03-14-2013, 07:32 PM   #30
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Today I got the perrin short shifter kit bushings installed. Wow...Just do it. It transforms a vague and rubbery transmission into a sporty and responsive short shifter capable of competing against the best. This upgrade was most definitely worth it.
Good to hear, I will be installing the front and rear bushings next week
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Old 03-14-2013, 07:40 PM   #31
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For those thinking of adding or upgrading the RSB, just do it. It's $100 and an hour of your time.
Adding a RSB..definitely do it without hesitation. But based on the feedback so far, I don't think it's worth it to upgrade for daily driving (for me at least). I have a feeling the money would be better put towards a new set of tires.
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Old 03-16-2013, 02:53 AM   #32
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I'm currently waiting for a kartboy short shift kit with bushings that I ordered the other day. Got a discount code so it was about 10% cheaper. Also got a 19mm rsb with bushings and endlinks from a dude on SoCalSubies who took it off his '10 STi for $80. Now I just need a day off to install these goodies, Lol.
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Old 03-16-2013, 08:50 AM   #33
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How much was the Kartboy kit with bushings?
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Old 03-16-2013, 02:04 PM   #34
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How much was the Kartboy kit with bushings?
Supposed to be $189 but when down to $170 + $1 shipping
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Old 03-16-2013, 02:05 PM   #35
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I'd like to hear from someone who has done the bushing part of the job and describe how hard it is to do. Don't you have to lower the differential or something to accomplish the bushing replacement? I'm guessing this isn't as hard as it sounds (I'm guessing you just remove some bolts and lower the diff a few inches with a floor jack, but this is just a WAG).

Regardless, lowering the diff makes me nervous.
No, you don't have to lower the differential. You have to remove a cross brace for the transmission held in by six bolts for access.

I supported the transmission with a jack, but the jack didn't seem to be carrying much weight.

The COBB is great as you can adjust the length on both sides of the fulcrum, so shifter height and throw are independently adjustable, and for resale purposes you can restore the stock throw.
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Old 03-16-2013, 02:07 PM   #36
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How much was the Kartboy kit with bushings?
Initially it was $189 but when down to $171 tax+shipping included.
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Old 03-16-2013, 02:12 PM   #37
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No, you don't have to lower the differential. You have to remove a cross brace for the transmission held in by six bolts for access.

I supported the transmission with a jack, but the jack didn't seem to be carrying much weight.

The COBB is great as you can adjust the length on both sides of the fulcrum, so shifter height and throw are independently adjustable, and for resale purposes you can restore the stock throw.
Thanks for this info.

Once you removed the cross brace, how hard was it to replace the bushings?
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Old 03-16-2013, 02:14 PM   #38
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No, you don't have to lower the differential. You have to remove a cross brace for the transmission held in by six bolts for access.

I supported the transmission with a jack, but the jack didn't seem to be carrying much weight.

The COBB is great as you can adjust the length on both sides of the fulcrum, so shifter height and throw are independently adjustable, and for resale purposes you can restore the stock throw.
You don't need to drop the tranny. All you really need to do is drop the driveshaft support bearing
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Old 03-16-2013, 02:18 PM   #39
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You don't need to drop the tranny. All you really need to do is drop the driveshaft support bearing
OK, I'm trying to piece together what you and Commander are telling me. It sounds like a cross brace must be removed, and then the driveshaft support bearing must be lowered. Is this correct? How difficult? What tools are required to do this?
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Old 03-16-2013, 02:18 PM   #40
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The transmission didn't really drop, not more than an inch anyway. Did you remove the six bolt cross member? This is the black bracket hanging off the downpipe in the picture.


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Old 03-16-2013, 02:31 PM   #41
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The transmission didn't really drop, not more than an inch anyway. Did you remove the six bolt cross member?
nope.

i removed the heatshield and the driveshaft bearing, gave me a lot of clearance.
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Old 03-16-2013, 02:33 PM   #42
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OK, I'm trying to piece together what you and Commander are telling me. It sounds like a cross brace must be removed, and then the driveshaft support bearing must be lowered. Is this correct? How difficult? What tools are required to do this?
no, i didn't touch the cross brace. the only tools required are just a socket wrench and a box end. nothing too fancy
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Old 03-16-2013, 02:36 PM   #43
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Make sure you have small circlip pliers for the shifter.
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Old 03-16-2013, 02:44 PM   #44
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Make sure you have small circlip pliers for the shifter.
not sure if you have the problem or not, but the KB front bushing was a little too thin, so i had to enlarge the hole in the washer so everything was nice and snug. otherwise there was about 1mm of slop
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Old 03-16-2013, 02:58 PM   #45
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Left to right slop? I don't remember anything noticeable after tightening the nut.

Making sure we're talking about the same set, were your bushings a black split pair with no inner metal sleeve?
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Left to right slop? I don't remember anything noticeable after tightening the nut.

Making sure we're talking about the same set, were your bushings a black split pair with no inner metal sleeve?
Yup those ones, and yes left-right slop. It was enough for me to notice
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Old 03-16-2013, 03:01 PM   #47
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I'll probably buy the Perrin kit, if I buy one at all.
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Old 03-16-2013, 03:08 PM   #48
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I'll check mine the next time I'm under the car.
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Old 03-16-2013, 03:45 PM   #49
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I'll probably buy the Perrin kit, if I buy one at all.
Its the cheapest option and provides great performance, probably about the same as the kobb system. Now I want a better shift knob, and wheels, and a ton of other stuff... Oh money.
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