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Old 03-13-2013, 11:32 PM   #1
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:54 PM   #2
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Get a tune. Don't question, just do. ...or enjoy the $5000 bill when you blow your engine.

+ In fact, you should swap back to the stock airbox ASAP. DO NOT drive around with that intake without a tune. Period.
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Old 03-14-2013, 12:09 AM   #3
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maybe you created a leakage in your hot piping while your were working on the CAI ?
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Old 03-14-2013, 12:13 AM   #4
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You absolutely NEED a tune.

I'm not sure where you read that it doesn't need a tune, but you'll need a stage 1 tune via either a Cobb Accessport or you could go opensource with a tactrix cable and a torqued performance stage 1 map. Anytime you start playing with aftermarket intake systems (AEM, Cobb, K&N, etc) or exhaust (uppipe, downpipe, headers, etc), you need a tune to adjust for the increased airflow.
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Old 03-14-2013, 02:05 AM   #5
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ahh another one trying to destroy their engine.... whyyyyyy
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Old 03-14-2013, 04:02 AM   #6
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Haha .. this stuff never gets old.

OP, what ever gave you the idea that your intake did not require a tune?
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Old 03-14-2013, 06:26 AM   #7
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What EXACTLY causes alleged engine failures as a result of an intake or downpipe? I know they'll run like crap w/o a tune, but I'd like to know why its described as being dangerous.
Car leaning out @ wot? Boost creep causing a lean condition?
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Old 03-14-2013, 06:42 AM   #8
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Thanks for all the useful information and advice. Everyone else may go and lerk somewhere else. The car is NOT my daily so no im TRYING to blow up my motor. It hasn't ran since the day the intake was installed. As for where I got my rather bunk info on tuning... I read sevreral places including RSD where it was purchased from, saying a tune isnt necessary although it is recommended. Only reason I have not got one is because im waiting on a down pipe. I just wanted to make sure I didn't have a problem somewhere else.

So to answer my question, its not unusual my car is running like this with a lack of tune?
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Old 03-14-2013, 06:54 AM   #9
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Double post.
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Old 03-14-2013, 09:00 AM   #10
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When you add a intake on the newer cars it will make them run lean under boost because the maf is not scaled for the extra air that is coming into the engine and it will not add any extra fuel to compensate. Also if you are running the stock tune that is already super lean when going wot it will just make your car go boom boom.
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Old 03-14-2013, 09:01 AM   #11
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Also if the car has not ran since the day you installed the intake how do you know it is running rough?
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Old 03-14-2013, 11:49 AM   #12
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I installed it drove it around town for a bit then it was parked and has sat since then
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Old 03-14-2013, 12:07 PM   #13
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Thanks for all the useful information and advice. Everyone else may go and lerk somewhere else. The car is NOT my daily so no im TRYING to blow up my motor. It hasn't ran since the day the intake was installed. As for where I got my rather bunk info on tuning... I read sevreral places including RSD where it was purchased from, saying a tune isnt necessary although it is recommended. Only reason I have not got one is because im waiting on a down pipe. I just wanted to make sure I didn't have a problem somewhere else.

So to answer my question, its not unusual my car is running like this with a lack of tune?
ON RSD, and all other websites selling that product, they simply copy and paste what the manufactuer says, aka the product description.

While in real life, with actual research and findings, REAL TUNERS have said any 08+ intake NEEDS A TUNE. Simple.

Research "MAF Scaling" for the few that wonder why intakes need tunes.
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Old 03-14-2013, 01:47 PM   #14
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The thread title immediately made me chuckle. The second sentence sealed the deal.
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Old 03-14-2013, 01:59 PM   #15
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Although it doesn't call for a tune my car is really lopey during idle and a few days ago threw a cel.
Let me guess, you don't even know what the CEL was for do you?



Get a tune before you break something.
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Old 03-14-2013, 04:01 PM   #16
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Thanks for the help to everyone who gave me a mature answer to my question. To everyone else, I feel bad for you. Deeply sorry for your misrable lives.
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Old 03-14-2013, 04:14 PM   #17
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AEM intake on it's own does not REQUIRE a tune. Install a wideband to compare side by side and you'll see. Monitor your learning numbers and you'll see the same. Will it run better with a tune? Yes. Will you blow it up without, I doubt any different than the stock tune that blows and can blow up an engine the same.

Too much conjecture and interwebs misinformation.

The car should not drive poorly with a properly installed intake, something is wrong. Check to see that the MAF is seated properly, in the right orientation, all pins seated well.
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