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Old 03-18-2013, 01:04 AM   #1
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Hi there,
I'm new to the Subie scene, glad to be a part of it :-)!
I have a newly acquired 2002 Subaru Impreza TS sport wagon that i use as a daily driver and love it!

I've done the tires, upgraded to 16"rims, 20" adj. Rear sway with whiteline endlinks, strut bars front back, and cai.

My next projects are to do the 1)exhaust and 2)brakes

1) what would be the setup for a quiet (low rumble would be fine, however I'm not after anything obnoxious, or ricey :-)) . Would just changing the muffler do this, or would a 'catback exhaust' be the right way to go? I've read that doing a cat back is less restrictive, which would increase flow? How about headers?

2) I'm looking into stoptech pads, however don't know which rotors to go with? I don't need drilled, or slotted, basic are fine for my needs. I've also bought a master cylinder brace, and would like to get stainless steel brake lines as well to improve pedal feel (which is horrible).
Can anybody suggest where to buy, or even other items for a good daily driver setup?
Thanks guys!
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Old 03-18-2013, 01:29 AM   #2
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The invidia n1 race is definitely the quietest cat back out there. :-)
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Old 03-18-2013, 01:43 AM   #3
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How does it sound?
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Old 03-18-2013, 01:47 AM   #4
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Lol i just YouTube 'd it and that puurrrrr is amazing! Here's the link with some great drive by' s caught with a gopro:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJl4...e_gdata_player
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Old 03-18-2013, 02:01 AM   #5
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Lol i just YouTube 'd it and that puurrrrr is amazing! Here's the link with some great drive by' s caught with a gopro:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJl4...e_gdata_player
http://s1133.beta.photobucket.com/us...8cd77.mp4.html

this is my car doing a flyby

invidia V2 catless DP
Invidia Ni Race catback.

it's a little loud.

probably go with the SPT if you want something pretty chill
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Old 03-18-2013, 02:02 AM   #6
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I've only run stock pads or ferodo 2500's (those are very nice street/light track duty pads.) hawk HPS is supposed to be good.

Also moving up rotor sizes can also help a bit with fade (WRX/H6 rotor upgrades).

exhaust, equal length will give you the most power but almost no rumble. WRX catback is plenty, and it's quiet and most importantly it's cheap (needs a slight mod to make it work ie, rejig the flanges to meet) but otherwise is a nice addition.
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Old 03-18-2013, 02:18 AM   #7
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The invidia n1 race is definitely the quietest cat back out there. :-)
The guy who showed up to RG in the R35 today complimented me on my N1 race spec paired with Invidia divorced bell DP.

I never heard it from outside but as horribly unbiased as I can be, it sounded pretty wicked and didn't really have that rasp that hurts my ears on some of the other cans.

Also when I fully cold started and everyone heard that jackhammer 15 seconds, it was pretty hilarious that I drowned whatever was on the dyno at the time.

In all seriousness though, loud, but not as obnoxious as one may think.
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Old 03-18-2013, 02:21 AM   #8
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The guy who showed up to RG in the R35 today complimented me on my N1 race spec paired with Invidia divorced bell DP.

I never heard it from outside but as horribly unbiased as I can be, it sounded pretty wicked and didn't really have that rasp that hurts my ears on some of the other cans.

Also when I fully cold started and everyone heard that jackhammer 15 seconds, it was pretty hilarious that I drowned whatever was on the dyno at the time.

In all seriousness though, loud, but not as obnoxious as one may think.

totally agree. The drone is pretty bad in mine though. how about you?
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Old 03-18-2013, 02:26 AM   #9
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The invidia n1 race is definitely the quietest cat back out there. :-)
lol
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Old 03-18-2013, 04:56 AM   #10
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totally agree. The drone is pretty bad in mine though. how about you?
Drone is eveident, yes. Not once did I have to yell in-cabin to talk to my passengers (even rear passengers)

But I also drove around for a good 6 months without a deck/music because my factory unit was stolen. The sound deadding however on the new GV's are just insanely nice. Whether I'm bumping music (now) and don't want people outside to hear, or driving and having a conversation over my bluetooth mic (mounted near visor), it doesn't interfere with talking at normal levels.

People do say it's quite loud at first, but maybe they're used to that whole raspy thing and rarely hear more full throaty exhausts?
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Old 03-18-2013, 11:00 AM   #11
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The invidia n1 race is definitely the quietest cat back out there. :-)
Troll? haha.. had the N1 race for a good 6 months w/ helix catless downpipe. It sounded so good but raspy and it was veryy loud. Switched to a n1 street (with resonator in mid pipe) and it sounded even better, no raspiness, and it was quieter by a bit.
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Old 03-18-2013, 12:44 PM   #12
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I think the GD years also have one of the worst sound deadening in a Impreza. I've sat in RA GCs that are louder at WOT, but quieter any other time. So for exhaust I have the COBB catted downpipe + Blitz Nur Spec Touring (one down from Nur Spec R, because everyone knows that's one obnoxious exhaust).

It's very conservative compare to the others on here. The rumble is very noticeable and it's not as loud as a catless downpipe + Invidia N1 race combination. So I strongly suggest it, especially if you enjoy a cabin conversation or two, or would like to listen to some music when you're not going WOT

As for brakes, like Drakar mentioned, bigger rotors would be the only way if you don't want to go slotted. Stay the hell away from drilled. If you do want to go with slotted rotors, get Powerslots, do not go ebay

You're in the right direction with stainless steel brake lines and cylinder brace. I think that's already like a decent unofficial "Stage 1" upgrade for brakes of the GD years
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Old 03-18-2013, 03:32 PM   #13
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I have a cobb catted DP + resonated midpipe + borla spt and its perfect for me. Then again I'm getting into the "old-fart" category. Resonated helps with the drone alot.
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Old 03-18-2013, 05:49 PM   #14
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I have a cobb catted DP + resonated midpipe + borla spt and its perfect for me. Then again I'm getting into the "old-fart" category. Resonated helps with the drone alot.
Definitely an old fart
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Old 03-19-2013, 01:02 AM   #15
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Thanks guys for all the input. It sounds like getting wrx rotors and catback is the way to go for me. Would i be looking for the same year and wagon only? Or is it similar to other mods where 02-07 works?
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02-07 WRX all work 06-07 have red 4 pot (worth more better ...? well they fit under 15" rally wheels are sought after by rally guys and GC's so expect to pay more.

rears all work again 06-07 have 2 pot red and same as above rally brakes.

exhausts are all the same but working on drone since your a wagon vs the guys that say it's fine while driving a sedan
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Old 03-19-2013, 01:37 AM   #17
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Thanks Drakar for the tips! The hunt continues :-)
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Thanks guys for all the input. It sounds like getting wrx rotors and catback is the way to go for me. Would i be looking for the same year and wagon only? Or is it similar to other mods where 02-07 works?
You will need '03+WRX caliper mounting brackets for the front to run the larger WRX rotor. I say '03+WRX because they run the larger pad than the early '02 WRX.

-caliper is the same for all Impreza except '06-07
-'02-07 WRX have same rotor up front. '06-07 WRX run different rear rotors
-early '02 WRX different pads frt/rr, late '02-05 same pads
-'06-07 have 4pot/2pot calipers that take different pads
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^ dishing out some useful advice at 7:30 in the morning And I can't even tie my shoe laces right without some coffee
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Old 03-19-2013, 01:01 PM   #20
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Thanks Drakar for the tips! The hunt continues :-)
No hunting required I have a full set of wrx brakes available
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