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Old 03-16-2013, 11:24 PM   #26
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I see you are into Asians (the OP), go with the Subaru...
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Old 03-16-2013, 11:29 PM   #27
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My boss just purchased a Focus ST. It is a great package. Dealers are not moving much on price so unless you get a limited WRX, the Subaru should be cheaper.

They appeal to very similar markets, but WRX is only car sports compact in the $25-30K range with AWD. Both cars are based on econo car platforms so they are do not have the same build quality as the German models. Drive both and see which one you like better. You can not go wrong with either. Good Luck.

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Old 03-17-2013, 12:04 AM   #28
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Old 03-17-2013, 12:36 AM   #29
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I see you are into Asians (the OP), go with the Subaru...
Wat? Just because she is Asian does not mean she is into Asians. I know a white girl who exclusively dates black men.
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Old 03-17-2013, 01:20 AM   #30
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Here is a link to the Focus ST thread in our off topic section:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2247096

Now a few warnings before you venture into OT and post.

1. OT doesn't subaru, well most of the time
2. The natives don't like newbies
3. Use proper english and gramar while posting in there
4. Post a pic of yourself, it will help
5. They will probably tell you to go test drive them.

But the guys in there owned WRX's and now own the ST and are pretty knowledgable people. Good luck in there and don't take any of it personal.
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Old 03-17-2013, 01:45 AM   #31
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Lol my bf is white and neanderthal-like. Was never attracted to asian men for some reason...just not manly enough, though I've been USA raised since my family moved from SK when I was 3 so that might have something to do with it.

I don't expect either car to match the build quality of my VW...the options on my model (heated leather seats, etc.) were the same as the Audi A4. If I could afford an S4 I would, but I'm a lowly dental hygienist and don't want every paycheck going into my car. I've actually been really impressed at how dependable my Jetta has been. I've put about 65k on it (has 82k) and other than scheduled maintenance I've had to replace one ignition coil and replace the timing belt/water pump as a precaution (bf said they are prone to breaking around the 80-100k mark). I spent more money in repairs on my old 90's Civic than this thing!

Anyway, I'm starting to lean towards the WRX...the hatchback in black looks really good, and after reading a bit more it seems you can get some really good deals on last year models that have been sitting around in the lot for a while. Someone here said there is less chance of flogging on a car that has been around a long time and that there are a lot of and I can see their point.

One thing that Im still on the fence about. Is there any truth to the transmissions breaking? I guess I could always just get an extended warranty. Thanks again so much to everyone that has chimed in!
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Old 03-17-2013, 02:19 AM   #32
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I think you should test drive both and go from there. For sure if wrx, hatch all the way! Do not dump the clutch at 4000 rpms and it will be fine. I know when I bought my FXT in 2004 there was a rash of posts about how fragile the wrx trans was. I am 99% sure that was people doing said dumping of clutches, just my 2 cp.
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Old 03-17-2013, 02:39 AM   #33
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I feel like cops would know about the Focus ST more than a WRX

where are you from?
and what year cars are you looking for? Brand new 2013's? Because the hatch and sedans are much more... i guess stealthier looking than the old rex's.

Subie bias here... but more than anything... subaru has one of the biggest communities... and there's also www.subiegirls.com so you don't get all the leg humpers here
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Old 03-17-2013, 02:47 AM   #34
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Im looking for latest style...Im in Beaverton/Hillsboro Oregon area and just driving around for about an hour today I counted 11 WRX/STi's, have yet to see a Focus ST anywhere.

I don't know...stealthy? It has tail lights like those old lexuses and quad-exhaust tips! lol
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Old 03-17-2013, 04:18 AM   #35
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Adding the 1988 Honda Prelude 4WS to the mix!
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Old 03-17-2013, 10:05 AM   #36
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Police "attention" should not be a base for buying a car in any right. Generally the people that complain about being pulled over were doing something wrong or acting like an asshat. I haven't been pulled over in years, and the last time I was I was in my 04 WRX but WAS speeding.
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Old 03-17-2013, 10:31 AM   #37
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Police "attention" should not be a base for buying a car in any right. Generally the people that complain about being pulled over were doing something wrong or acting like an asshat.
^This.

OP, google the crap out of each car, talk to people who own/have owned one, and most importantly take a couple test drives. Like most others have said, I'd go for the WRX, but that's just me. In the end, don't let the interwebs decide for you, because we can really dole out some bad advice at times.
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Old 03-17-2013, 10:44 AM   #38
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Go test drive both. Until you do, nothing else is really going to matter.

Do not buy when you test drive, tell them you are buying in a couple months and you are trying out a lot of different cars.

This gives you a great way to gauge how the dealership is going to treat you. When I bought my 2010 I had a purchase date in mind, that I gave each dealer, it helped eliminate a lot of them because while I got to test drive the car, they acted like complete ******** about it. And the one that was the nicest is the one I purchased from, at invoice, without any kind of haggling or BS fees tacked on.
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Old 03-17-2013, 10:51 AM   #39
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Test drove the Focus ST, then the WRX and STI. I did like the recaros in the focus. It had a good stereo and user integration. More tech then the Subaru. That and the push button start was nice with the key fob as well. Thing that set it apart for me was resale value. In two years the focus will we worth a ton less, as opposed to the STI I purchased. If you plan on keeping it longer then I generally do (2-3 years). Then I would possibly consider the focus for features and price.
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Old 03-17-2013, 01:44 PM   #40
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i guess you can say im not biased. i go through alot of cars. I bought an 02 WRX in 09, my friend had one, and after a ride i decided i wanted one. i owned the car for almost 3 years, and i broke it. when i did, i was in between jobs, and just at a terrible point in life. it has taken me 2 years, to buy another one.

Ive never cared for a car more in my life, they're reliable, fun, have a great aftermarket, and have the best community ive seen in cars. if it was me, buy the WRX, and dont look back. also, dealerships do beat the hell out of their cars, but 400 miles of abuse, will not determine the cars reliabilty.

as for the occasional "problem car" subaru has them just like ford does, if you notice the car has issues early on, (fixed by warrenty) trade it in. but i highly doubt you will be so unlucky to get one of those 1 in 10000.
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Old 03-17-2013, 03:44 PM   #41
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You should shop around for insurance. I am paying lower insurance on my 2012 WRX then when I had an 09 Honda Fit.

I really really like the Focus ST, but one thing that will push me over the edge is AWD. I dont really live in a snowy part of the country, but with snow tires I have 0 worry.

What year are you looking to get? And if you are looking to buy used make sure they get a compression test done!
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Old 03-17-2013, 04:11 PM   #42
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Your on subaru forums asking to buy a ford or a subaru.
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Old 03-17-2013, 04:11 PM   #43
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Get the FIESTA ST and be done
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Old 03-17-2013, 04:51 PM   #44
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Go test drive both. Until you do, nothing else is really going to matter.

Do not buy when you test drive, tell them you are buying in a couple months and you are trying out a lot of different cars.

This gives you a great way to gauge how the dealership is going to treat you. When I bought my 2010 I had a purchase date in mind, that I gave each dealer, it helped eliminate a lot of them because while I got to test drive the car, they acted like complete ******** about it. And the one that was the nicest is the one I purchased from, at invoice, without any kind of haggling or BS fees tacked on.
I like that idea...was worried about getting pressured into things like I did when I got my Jetta. I'm pretty easily sold on stuff when Im face to face with someone that does it for a living. I ended up spending 16k on a car only worth 10...don't want to go through that again!
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Old 03-17-2013, 04:52 PM   #45
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Yup, you sound like you'll believe anything.
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Old 03-17-2013, 04:56 PM   #46
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How come no one is capable of going out, driving different cars, and making an informed decision based on that drive of which vehicle they'd rather own nowadays?

My relevant reply: I'd probably choose the ST because I've already owned a WRX and don't want to buy a car I've already had. So somehow I guess I just made your car buying decision easier.
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Old 03-17-2013, 05:16 PM   #47
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Get an EVO....
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Old 03-17-2013, 05:24 PM   #48
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Recently test drove a ST, but I wouldn't trade my '12 WRX for one. I like the way the ST sounds, but I like the way my car sounds too. I'm just a HUGE fan of AWD, and I NEVER go back to high powered FWD cars. If I had a gun to my head, the ST would be my FWD choice though.

Here's an article. http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...n/viewall.html

Now you will note that even though the WRX has AWD, it still weighs the least in that group (1 lb less than the Focus, lol). The longer you own the WRX, you will start noticing how Subaru made the car lighter... Just saying. Also the prices are really quite close.

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Lol my bf is white and neanderthal-like. Was never attracted to asian men for some reason...
I can think of one big (small) reason.......
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Old 03-17-2013, 05:40 PM   #49
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I like that idea...was worried about getting pressured into things like I did when I got my Jetta. I'm pretty easily sold on stuff when Im face to face with someone that does it for a living. I ended up spending 16k on a car only worth 10...don't want to go through that again!
Wow...yeah when you do decide to buy, find out the invoice price(check Edmunds and a few other sites) go in and tell the dealer that's what you want to pay. Argue any "fees" they throw out there, and remind them that you can fly to another city and get the car for invoice, drive back(getting some of the break in out of the way) all for less than the "steal" of a price they are offering.
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Old 03-17-2013, 05:52 PM   #50
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Should I find a dealership that has a curvy road nearby so I can see how each feels handling wise, or do you think they would even let me do that? I don't want to just go on a highway and feel them accelerate...though I guess it would be good to compare how much outside noise and how stiff the rides feel for commuting purposes.
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