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Old 03-18-2013, 11:37 PM   #1
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Default 2012+ OEM Fujitsu Ten Navigation HU to Non-Nav WRX transplant!

Thanks for the amazing SVXdc (David) this project is now officially possible without ripping off your whole car harness. I'll be retrofitting this into a 2013 WRX Hatchback.



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Here are the parts that SVXdc (ae64.com) have for you:

A) 10-pin and 6-pin reverse power/speaker harnesses (Toyota style), with all pins that the FM601US needs.

B) 20-pin "forward" harness, with 3 SWC wires connected to 28-pin reverse harness.

C) 28-pin reverse harness, with aux and mic pins connected to a 16-pin "forward" socket. 28-pin harness also has plain wires for reverse gear and vehicle speed signal (VSS).

D) Hirose female 4-pin USB socket

E) 16-pin reverse harness, with any or all of these that you want: wires for parking brake, rear camera RCA jack, and 6 Volt camera power supply.


You will need to:

1) Solder or crimp A to B (14 wires).

2) Connect VSS wire from C to your car's factory VSS wire.

3) Connect reverse gear wire from C to your car's factory reverse gear wire (this may only be needed for camera function).

4) Connect parking brake lead from E to chassis ground.

5) Swap your WRX's mic module with the mic module taken from the map light cluster from a car with same FT nav.

6) Build a USB adapter (from my Hirose socket to a Toyota-style USB plug).

7) Buy a reverse Lexus antenna adapter (Metra 40-LX21), connect from FM601US to the Motorola plug on your WRX's factory antenna adapter.

8) Obtain a Toyota-style GPS antenna (Subaru or Scion/Toyota have this for about $175)
So SVXdc found out that certain type of Eclipse GPS antenna might work as well. I ordered one from ebay and will post more info on whether it will work or not.

For the USB: SVXdc and I are still researching this. The socket on the back of the Fujitsu Ten unit is a socket typically used by Toyota. SVXdc mentioned that Subaru or Toyota might have a short breakout harness/cable with the toyota style plug I can buy to crimp/solder to his hirose socket. He also mentioned a electronic parts website that might carry those plug. I'm still waiting on his reply about this. I'm sure he'll be able to find a plug to make this work as he found the impossible 28-pin connector.

Your OEM bluetooth mic won't work properly with this head-unit. Reason is because the mic from non-nav cars has an amplified circuit that causes gain problem with the Fujitsu Ten unit. You need to buy one from a car with the same HU or buy the complete dome assembly from Subaru/crashed car with the FT nav. The OME bluetooth mic worked fine.

Update: I just finished installing the FT HU into my car. It started up just fine. I am still missing the GPS antenna, and the Toyota/Lexus radio adapter. But bluetooth actually worked flawlessly. The oem mic even works perfectly.I'll have to check my connection on this when I take the HU out for the antenna.

There is a problem with my aux input however. It doesn't have any output on the right speakers (actually very low output even at max volume). It was the aux cable I used. Replaced with a different aux cable and it worked fine.

Still no USB function yet. I'm still hoping SVXDc can find an adapter to make this possible. Otherwise I'll have to open the HU and solder wires onto the PCB to the Hirose connector.

There is a BIG improvement in term of sound quality. Much better bass and louder volume without distortion. And all this is just through Bluetooth streaming. I can't wait to see how USB/Aux, HD radio, and CD perform.

Please don't PM me asking how-to. Post all your question here.

Update: SVXDc has found the part# for the USB harness you can get from Toyota or Subaru to splice into the Hirose USB Socket.

86273SG230 2014 Forester USB interconnect cable
List: $120.73 Online: $88.38


PT546-00120-US Toyota USB harness
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Old 03-19-2013, 12:16 AM   #2
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Old 03-19-2013, 06:32 PM   #3
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Old 03-19-2013, 07:07 PM   #4
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Old 03-19-2013, 09:05 PM   #5
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Updated with info about required parts. I finished connecting all the harness. Waiting for my antenna adapter & GPS antenna to come in and I'll attempt to install this. Hopefully this weekend. I'll have to wait on the USB and the bluetooth mic to see if SVXdc or I can come up with some solution. I really want USB function so that'll be what I focus on more. Hopefully I'll hear some good news from SVXdc about it soon.
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Old 03-20-2013, 12:14 AM   #6
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curious you would think the 28 pin is hard to find; I got mine off a fleabay vendor. the usb cable and satellite radio antenna on the other hand I have absolutely no luck whatsoever. For GPS I used GPS Antenna for ECLIPSE AVN726E AVN5533 AVN5435 AVN30D. The common Motorola antenna adapter won't work with the F10. I had to get the adapter of a Toyota/Lexus.

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Old 03-20-2013, 01:35 AM   #7
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Old 03-20-2013, 08:26 AM   #8
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curious you would think the 28 pin is hard to find; I got mine off a fleabay vendor. the usb cable and satellite radio antenna on the other hand I have absolutely no luck whatsoever. For GPS I used GPS Antenna for ECLIPSE AVN726E AVN5533 AVN5435 AVN30D. The common Motorola antenna adapter won't work with the F10. I had to get the adapter of a Toyota/Lexus.
I could not find a place to buy a single 28pin connector. I saw whole sale people from china that has them available in bulk. May be I don't know enough about this stuff. Sounds like you done similar project? Thanks for the GPS antenna suggestion. I'll let you know if I get any info about the USB port. For the Satellite antenna you'll have to buy it from Subaru.
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Old 03-20-2013, 02:17 PM   #9
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What is advantage of this unit over a WRX Nav or aftermarket unit?
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Old 03-20-2013, 02:23 PM   #10
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What is advantage of this unit over a WRX Nav or aftermarket unit?
This is like what's the advantage of an STi over an Evo. Just personal preferrence. I like the look of it. Plus I got it for $375 shipped so that pretty much beat most aftermarket HU as most in that price point doesn't have Navigation. For me I just like the OEM stuff.
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Old 03-20-2013, 02:50 PM   #11
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While it is OEM it doesn't have an OEM fit with the bezel as the corners look funny. As long as you are happy though that's all that counts.
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Old 03-20-2013, 02:59 PM   #12
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While it is OEM it doesn't have an OEM fit with the bezel as the corners look funny. As long as you are happy though that's all that counts.
Yeah you need the JDM bezel to make it less funky. But it isn't very noticable so I don't really mind. it isn't bugging me so no reason to spend $60. I am very happy with this project. Once I get USB to function it'll be much better.
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Old 03-20-2013, 10:55 PM   #13
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Wow that is a nice looking head unit..!
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Old 03-21-2013, 09:19 AM   #14
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Yeah you need the JDM bezel to make it less funky. But it isn't very noticable so I don't really mind. it isn't bugging me so no reason to spend $60. I am very happy with this project. Once I get USB to function it'll be much better.
No, you need the Nav bezel that came stock with that HU in the first place.
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Old 03-21-2013, 12:42 PM   #15
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Wow that is a nice looking head unit..!
it does look pretty good. You can make it plays pictures slideshow while listening to music too.

So after a couple days of using this HU. I have to say it is a BIG improvement over the base HU. The sound is MUCH better. It will distort a bit at higher volume + High low frequencies. There's a SVC (Speed Volume Control) option that seems to make the volume a lot louder. I'll be install a pair of Infinity Kapa 63.9i in the front soon. There probably won't be much improvement but I already have the speakers.
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I could not find a place to buy a single 28pin connector. I saw whole sale people from china that has them available in bulk. May be I don't know enough about this stuff. Sounds like you done similar project? Thanks for the GPS antenna suggestion. I'll let you know if I get any info about the USB port. For the Satellite antenna you'll have to buy it from Subaru.
The 28 pin connector is common with a lot of Toyota vehicles. I bought mine from a fleaBay seller Chinaskyintl, though I don't see the account active on fleaBay anymore. You can try http://www.skyinternational.com.cn/, which appears to be the same group of people.
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Old 03-22-2013, 08:24 AM   #17
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The 28 pin connector is common with a lot of Toyota vehicles. I bought mine from a fleaBay seller Chinaskyintl, though I don't see the account active on fleaBay anymore. You can try http://www.skyinternational.com.cn/, which appears to be the same group of people.
I already have the connector. Got it from SVXdc he got it all wired up and stuff. Now I just need the connector for the USB port.
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Old 03-22-2013, 11:01 PM   #18
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My GPS antenna came in today. The plug on the antenna was a bit bigger than the socket on the HU. I did some modification to the plug on the antenna and got it to work. GPS works very good without VSS so far. No delay in turns. I might not connect the VSS cable if it works fine without it. Waiting for SVXdc to reply to me about the USB cable still. He forgot the Hirose connector. Once I have that connector I might actually connect each cable to each pin in the HU USB socket using a small quick disconnect. This is probably not the best secure option for this but I think I'll do until I or someone can find the connector to make the harness.
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Looking good so far!

I'm glad you solved the problem with the aux input -- I was worried that I had connected a wire wrong.

I'm surprised that your WRX's mic works. I need to check more thoroughly, but I had found that a WRX with the FT nav has a different part number for the map light cluster than a WRX with the CZ624U1 (non-nav HU). The only difference would be the mic module. Both nav and non-nav mics are amplified. I figured the two used different gains.

I contacted a BRZ owner who is the parts manager for a Subaru dealership. He found the USB cable for the BRZ (86273CA000, MSRP $121 ). I didn't realize that it is wrapped together with a portion of the aux harness. The online price is about $89 plus shipping, which is still too much when all you want it for is the USB plug.

I've asked him to check the similar USB harness in Impreza/WRX/STI with the FT nav. I know the harness is a separate piece in those cars, so I'm hoping it will be slightly cheaper.

As for finding the FT USB plug as a separate piece, I don't know the manufacturer or model number for that. I'll need a Subaru or Toyota owner who has a HU with this socket to look closely at the plug on their car's USB harness. There should be a manufacturer's name or logo on it. That's how I figured out that Hirose makes the USB connectors for the non-nav cars (in the picture here, I saw the "HRS" on the plug and knew it was Hirose).

I'm fairly sure that Hirose is not the manufacturer for the Toyota USB connector -- I didn't spot anything like it in their catalog. There are many other companies.

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Here are pictures of the harness plug and socket from a Toyota:
It looks like the core of a USB "B" socket might fit. Here's one:
Here's a PDF drawing showing the dimensions of the block in the center with the contacts (link).

That is the part you would normally find inside something like a printer. So it's a little strange that the Toyota connectors use the genders backwards.

I have checked, and the FT nav's pin-out is not the same as a USB B plug/socket (the pin positions are scrambled).
Be very careful before you try to shove something into the FT nav's USB socket. If you damage it and then we do find the proper plug, you won't be able to use it. Trust me, you really don't want to solder to the HU's PC board.

I'll let you know what the parts guy says about the Impreza USB cable.
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Old 03-23-2013, 04:08 AM   #20
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Hmm that's a lot different than I imagined. I thought there was 4 pins coming out of the FT USB Socket so I was just going to use those pin quick disconnect and connect it to the hirose connector from you. I guess it does look like a USB B socket but I highly doubt that will fit in there. I believe you will be able to find something In the mean time I'll try to resist the temptation to buy the harness for $90 lol.

Also SVXdc I didn't receive the hirose plug with the package. I sent you an email about it. I can wait until you can find a proper plug to connect to that Hirose connector and send it to me all at one. Hopefully I'll hear more good news from you about this soon.
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Old 03-23-2013, 06:42 PM   #21
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Got the Metra 40-LX21 adapter for the radio antenna. While HD radio is pretty cool, Utah only has a few HD channels and only a couple of them are for music.
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Old 03-24-2013, 10:56 PM   #22
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Do you happen to know if that deck comes with a sub out put on the back? thanks!
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Old 03-25-2013, 12:40 AM   #23
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The FM601US came out of a 2012 Impreza or Crosstrek. I don't think that model (or ones from a WRX/STI or BRZ) includes a sub out. There's a small chance that one from a Forester does (but Subaru's wiring diagrams don't show it).

Pictures and pin-outs of the rear harnesses of the STI version are here (see posts 4 and 9 in that thread). The Impreza version looks the same except for the model numbers.

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Old 03-25-2013, 10:40 AM   #24
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I don't know if it has sub output. Belows are some diagram I found while researching this HU. As you can see there are 2 connector not identified. Might be the sub-out but I don't know.

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Old 03-26-2013, 01:24 PM   #25
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where did you find the hu at? forums or a dedicated site? 375 is a good price for sure.
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