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Old 05-12-2016, 12:45 AM   #1
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Default 2016 WRX - Keep or delete tweeters?

Upgrading my entire sound system shortly in my 2016 WRX. Will be stock head unit, LC6i, 5 channel amp running speakers and sub. Nothing crazy, about 50 watts to each speaker and 300 watts to a 10" sub.

Hashed out all the questions except whether or not to keep tweeters up front. Two options: either snag a midrange (price) component set and replace the stock stuff up front or midrange (price) coaxials.

Heard arguments each way. Some say the tweeter location is garbage, others say with some tuning its not too shabby. Bit more work to install aftermarket tweeters in the location but nothing I can't handle.

Weigh in with opinions either way. Cheers.
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Old 05-12-2016, 01:10 AM   #2
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id toss the amp and sub in and take a listen before buying anything. i actually liked the stock speakers in my 2011 better than components. both were powered by the same amp.
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Old 05-12-2016, 11:03 AM   #3
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I think most component sets are better quality than coaxials in the same price range.
Also the stock "tweeter" isn't a tweeter at all but a little speaker - any midrange component set would be better.

Many new cars have separate tweeters in the dash, the sound reflects off the windshield. Don't think that's any worse than aimed at your feet. Good tuning will take care of it, an DSP would be best - I have not decided if I want to spent the money on one of those yet.
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Old 05-12-2016, 11:17 AM   #4
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I went with a 3 way PPI setup in my 15 wrx - the 3" mid fit right in the factory dash location. I did have to install the tweeters in the A Pillar though, so that required a bit of cutting and fabrication. Turned out ok though, and I liked the staging. a lot can be done with time alignment and the right eq settings.
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Old 05-14-2016, 10:29 PM   #5
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I found it very easy to install 6.5" components in the front, woofers in the doors and tweeters in the stock dash location.

For the tweeters it was a simple matter of a fabricating a flat piece of 1/4" MDF to match the 1" tweeters and the stock screw holes. Very easy to snake new wires down from the tweeters to the cross overs (tucked up under the dash on both sides). I spent a hour on it at the most and I'm not particularly talented at this sort of thing.

I spent $150 on the components, whereas It probably would have cost close to the same if not more to install coax's in both locations.
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Old 05-15-2016, 11:17 AM   #6
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I found that component sets usually sound better than coaxials, especially when you get to higher end ones that come with a separate box to separate the frequencies.
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Old 05-17-2016, 06:49 PM   #7
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I found it very easy to install 6.5" components in the front, woofers in the doors and tweeters in the stock dash location.

For the tweeters it was a simple matter of a fabricating a flat piece of 1/4" MDF to match the 1" tweeters and the stock screw holes. Very easy to snake new wires down from the tweeters to the cross overs (tucked up under the dash on both sides). I spent a hour on it at the most and I'm not particularly talented at this sort of thing.

I spent $150 on the components, whereas It probably would have cost close to the same if not more to install coax's in both locations.
What factory wiring did you use, or did you run new wires from an amp?
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Old 05-18-2016, 12:39 AM   #8
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What factory wiring did you use, or did you run new wires from an amp?
there are a few different ways to do this. if you use the factory wiring to get the sound into the door, you'll have to find a place for the crossover and run wire through the door jamb tunnel and up into the dash (most common method). a search should come up with some results for you to consider. try something like "speaker wire through door" or similar, the method is nearly the same for all models even if its not the same exact car as yours. you don't need to run all new speaker wiring from the amp, you can run a "9-wire" from the amp to behind the dash and use the factory wiring that already runs through the car.
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Old 05-18-2016, 12:45 AM   #9
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there are a few different ways to do this. if you use the factory wiring to get the sound into the door, you'll have to find a place for the crossover and run wire through the door jamb tunnel and up into the dash (most common method). a search should come up with some results for you to consider. try something like "speaker wire through door" or similar, the method is similar for all models even if its not the same exact car as yours. you don't need to run all new speaker wiring from the amp, you can run a "9-wire" or similar and use the factory wiring that already runs through the car.

agree to what?

Thanks. If i'm running from an amp i'd run new wire, assuming I use the factory wiring, where does the door/tweeter wire split? I'd want the wires from the HU going to the xover, and then from the xover to the tweeter and door. I would guess that running new wire might be easiest? Or using the wire from the dash (tweeters) dropping it down to the xover and then one set of wire back up and one to the door?
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Old 05-18-2016, 03:36 PM   #10
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I just did this, installed a amp under the drivers seat and new component speakers. Used a harness in the back of the radio - ran the speaker wires from there to the amp and then new wires from amp to crossover. I ran new wires to the tweeters and door speakers. The tweeters are super easy - running the wire into the door not so much. I still don't have the rubber grommet back right on the car side. I have big crossover boxes so they were a pain to find a spot for also. I have the passenger side sitting in the glove box right now.

Boy does it ever sound good though - kept the factory radio
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Old 05-21-2016, 12:43 PM   #11
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I just did this, installed a amp under the drivers seat and new component speakers. Used a harness in the back of the radio - ran the speaker wires from there to the amp and then new wires from amp to crossover. I ran new wires to the tweeters and door speakers. The tweeters are super easy - running the wire into the door not so much. I still don't have the rubber grommet back right on the car side. I have big crossover boxes so they were a pain to find a spot for also. I have the passenger side sitting in the glove box right now.

Boy does it ever sound good though - kept the factory radio

I'm doing a very similar install tomorrow. Is it possible to clip off the connector on the stock tweeters and use those wires to connect to the new tweeter? I'm trying to avoid running wires from the stock tweeter location to the new door speakers.

Not sure how to stock tweeter and door speaker are connected though until I take off the panel. I have the adapter to connect the new door speakers to the existing connector but wasnt sure how the tweeters connected to the stock door speaker.
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Old 05-21-2016, 09:25 PM   #12
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I'm doing a very similar install tomorrow. Is it possible to clip off the connector on the stock tweeters and use those wires to connect to the new tweeter? I'm trying to avoid running wires from the stock tweeter location to the new door speakers.

Not sure how to stock tweeter and door speaker are connected though until I take off the panel. I have the adapter to connect the new door speakers to the existing connector but wasnt sure how the tweeters connected to the stock door speaker.
I ran new wires for the tweeters in the dash to the crossovers, and used the stock wires for the door speakers (so wire out from amp into cross over, out from crossover - high wire direct to tweeter, low wire back into the stock harness to the door). It was really easy the way I did it. I was able to tuck both crossovers under the dash and zip tie them in safe places where they wouldn't move or be in the way at all.
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