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Old 04-21-2010, 12:39 PM   #1
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Well, I had my windows tinted at Solar Solutions and now 2 weeks later, I get pulled over. I'm thinking, "did I put my new registration sticker on my plate?". "Did another center cap fall off my brand NEW wheels?". What could I have possibly done wrong to get pulled over? WINDOW TINT ?????? I had 35% installed.....it should be legal......well, guess what? The newer models (Camry's as some @$%#& call them) come with 2% already.....so with 35% we are right at the limit....I only got a warning but was informed by the officer that he could fine me $250/window....I have 7 so $1750 in fines. So, just a head's up for anyone considering tinting their windows. YES, he had the meter!......and YES, HIS windows were BLACK !!!!!!!
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Old 04-21-2010, 12:48 PM   #2
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This isn't limited to newer cars, anything from the last few decades will have some light tint from the factory. If he pulled you over for 33% he must have been looking for a reason to talk to you. My cars are way darker than that, never been pulled over for that.
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ive been pulled over a few times for my windows and got tickets both times. friggin 250 per window but they got thrown out in court. i wanted 20% and i knew it was illegal but i had no clue the windows already come with a transparent uv tint of 9%. so my tints ended up being 11%.

cop tried to give me some bull**** about how even they have to take it off their windows blah blah. well guess what, his windows were even darker than mine. mass staties suck
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Old 04-21-2010, 02:08 PM   #4
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I am surprised that a reputable place such as Solar Solutions would steer you towards an illegal tint? I'd think they should let you know if you might be pushing the limits. They must have a tint meter at a tint shop!

What did it cost for tint? I don't what a good price is, never had my windows tinted before but my eyes are really sensetive to bright light so I was thinking about it.
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Old 04-21-2010, 02:15 PM   #5
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FYI, Technically they can only ticket you for the front two windows & windshield(some people tint the top of the windshield). You can do your rear door windows and rear window as dark as you want. As long as you have two side mirrors.

You could spray paint the rears windows black and they can't do a thing. It's like having a no window van. Get the fronts done legal and smoke the rest. As long as the fronts are legal you're good.

Well, I just looked it up and I guess they've changed the law. You'd still probably win in court as most newer Outback Wagons I see are SMOKED in the rear. You'd probably get away with more in a 5 door or Wagon. Notice how it says, "for most vehicles". I don't see how it can be ok for certain vehicles and not others. Not really a fair law but then again what do they care.

http://www.mass.gov/rmv/faq/inspection.htm#15

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Old 04-21-2010, 02:29 PM   #6
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I am surprised that a reputable place such as Solar Solutions would steer you towards an illegal tint? I'd think they should let you know if you might be pushing the limits. They must have a tint meter at a tint shop!

What did it cost for tint? I don't what a good price is, never had my windows tinted before but my eyes are really sensetive to bright light so I was thinking about it.
if u get a doctors note u could get ur windows even darker. but u gotta go through the rmv and stuff
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FYI, Technically they can only ticket you for the front two windows & windshield(some people tint the top of the windshield). You can do your rear door windows and rear window as dark as you want. As long as you have two side mirrors.

You could spray paint the rears windows black and they can't do a thing. It's like having a no window van. Get the fronts done legal and smoke the rest. As long as the fronts are legal you're good.

Well, I just looked it up and I guess they've changed the law. You'd still probably win in court as most newer Outback Wagons I see are SMOKED in the rear. You'd probably get away with more in a 5 door or Wagon. Notice how it says, "for most vehicles". I don't see how it can be ok for certain vehicles and not others. Not really a fair law but then again what do they care.

http://www.mass.gov/rmv/faq/inspection.htm#15
Yeah, the rears definitely do have limits. Apparently factory tint is exempt, that's how you see SUV's and the linke with dark tint back there. That's a pretty weak law IMO.

Power6, the shops will sell you whatever you like. I've had three cars done at Solar Solutions and everytime they told me what was legal and what wasn't.
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If it's only 2 weeks old, chances are it will lighten up a bit and probably settle down to 35-38% when done. That's my experience anyway, and it's also what Solar Solutions told me when I had my car done there a couple of years ago.
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Old 04-21-2010, 05:05 PM   #9
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Tint places will tint to whatever level you want as long as you pay cash.
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Yeah, the rears definitely do have limits. Apparently factory tint is exempt, that's how you see SUV's and the linke with dark tint back there. That's a pretty weak law IMO.

Power6, the shops will sell you whatever you like. I've had three cars done at Solar Solutions and everytime they told me what was legal and what wasn't.

Total BS. Revenue producing BS. They say it's for the safety of officers, which I can understand to a point, but do you really think someone who would harm an officer gives a crap about the law. Seriously.

It just keeps people who just want there car to look good from being able to. The people who they're trying to protect themselves from don't give an F what the law is. That being said I have alot of respect for cops putting themselves out there. It's just this doesn't prevent much besides good people being able tint out their ride.
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Old 04-21-2010, 09:09 PM   #11
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Yeah, the cop said that they look pretty dark. Well, some days you can't even tell they're tinted. And yes I understand it's for the safety of our law enforcement officers! That's why I had Solar Solutions put on the 35%! And yes they will tint whatever level you want but tell you ahead of time what IS legal. And the price is $190ish but they gave me a sweet discount because of NASIOC and NESIC....thanks guys!

Also, you guys are all correct with the tint laws and loopholes.....I've researched the death out of it!!!
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Old 04-21-2010, 11:03 PM   #12
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FYI, Technically they can only ticket you for the front two windows & windshield(some people tint the top of the windshield). You can do your rear door windows and rear window as dark as you want. As long as you have two side mirrors.

You could spray paint the rears windows black and they can't do a thing. It's like having a no window van. Get the fronts done legal and smoke the rest. As long as the fronts are legal you're good.

Well, I just looked it up and I guess they've changed the law. You'd still probably win in court as most newer Outback Wagons I see are SMOKED in the rear. You'd probably get away with more in a 5 door or Wagon. Notice how it says, "for most vehicles". I don't see how it can be ok for certain vehicles and not others. Not really a fair law but then again what do they care.



http://www.mass.gov/rmv/faq/inspection.htm#15
this is incorrect. this applies to the rear glass only.. NOT the rear side windows.
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Old 04-22-2010, 10:22 AM   #13
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I have had a car with tinted windows, I had bought my Grand National out of state and it had crazy dark windows. I got caught and had to rip it off. I only took the tint off the side windows, the cop was nice enough to let me come by the station and retest with his meter, and he reccomended to the judge to throw it out. Nothing was said about the rear windows.

I did have the discussion with the magistrate at my hearing, and he said the rule is 35% all around, no exceptions.

Thing is in practice the only tint meters I have seen go over the egde of the window so they can't test a fixed rear window.

Thanks Piranha2 for the info. I might go ahead and get them tinted before summer time.
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Old 04-22-2010, 12:39 PM   #14
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Yeah, well I'm on the line with 35%, the officer said it's +/- 2%, so his words were,"it depends on who pulls you over". If you saw my tint, you would laugh. My co-workers didn't even know I had them tinted. I can see "through" my car clearly, a little tougher at night, but you can still see through.
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this is incorrect. this applies to the rear glass only.. NOT the rear side windows.

Yup...BOTH the front AND rear sides need to be ABOVE 35%
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the only way to actually end up with legal tint is to ask for 40%.
i asked for 35% tint and mine measure 31% on the tint meter.
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Old 04-23-2010, 09:53 AM   #17
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I have 35% in back and 40% on the fronts, 35% windshield strip. This is by far the lightest tint I have had on a car I own. For my SUV's I have the fronts match the back (usually 15-20%). I have never had a single problem. Inspection stations have passed me, cops have pulled me over for speeding and never mentioned it (~15 years of driving with dark tint). Maybe I am just lucky.

That being said, I know the MA law is 35% +/-2% all around. I disagree with this being an officer safety issue. If somebody is willing to cross the line of harming another person, I believe they are going to do so whether their windows are tinted or not. I don't think a film of plastic really weighs into their decision or not.

That being said, I think there is an argument to keeping a car cooler and saving energy. My car is definitely cooler because of my windows. Especially dark interior cars. My old SUV had black leather and I had to literally put a towel on the seats to sit down on hot days before I got the windows done. It was absurd, then I drove with the AC cranked for 15-20 minutes to get the car down. What a waste of energy. It was 70 bucks to tint the fronts back then, I probably saved that in gas over the 2 summers I had that car because I didn't need to crank the AC as much.

Anyway, just my 2 cents, but MA will never change that law or many many others that make little sense to me.

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ive been pulled over a few times for my windows and got tickets both times. friggin 250 per window but they got thrown out in court. i wanted 20% and i knew it was illegal but i had no clue the windows already come with a transparent uv tint of 9%. so my tints ended up being 11%.

cop tried to give me some bull**** about how even they have to take it off their windows blah blah. well guess what, his windows were even darker than mine. mass staties suck
Because you knew the law, broke it, and got caught? You may get whoever inspected you in trouble as well.

There are plenty of exemptions. Light trucks are exempted, which is why minivans can have privacy glass. Go buy an Outback and go nuts.

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Those and other vehicles have factory-installed glass which carries Federal/D.O.T. approval. The Massachusetts tint law is directed toward aftermarket installation of tinting materials.
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That being said, I know the MA law is 35% +/-2% all around. I disagree with this being an officer safety issue. If somebody is willing to cross the line of harming another person, I believe they are going to do so whether their windows are tinted or not. I don't think a film of plastic really weighs into their decision or not.


Anyway, just my 2 cents, but MA will never change that law or many many others that make little sense to me.
The argument is the officer can not see what is in the car with dark tint. It could be full of people and guns, he would have a much more difficult time ascertaining this with tint. Easy fix would be to roll the windows down at a stop. I also have no idea why it is OK for light trucks to have this setup.

This isn't a MA issue. There are very few states that are more tolerant of tint.
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The argument is the officer can not see what is in the car with dark tint. It could be full of people and guns, he would have a much more difficult time ascertaining this with tint. Easy fix would be to roll the windows down at a stop. I also have no idea why it is OK for light trucks to have this setup.

This isn't a MA issue. There are very few states that are more tolerant of tint.
Yeah, the logic that people who are buying minivans with dark tint or small trucks are any less likely to do harm to a LEO is weak in my opinion. It should be all or nothing. No tint all around or let everyone tint to the same level.

I just see it as an inconsistent law, oh well. It happens.

At any rate, for some reason my Llumar 35% charcoal measures at 35% even with the factory tint on my Subaru. It also did this on my Audi. I'm not sure why?

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I think the tint law is just a hold over from when light trucks weren't consumer vehicles. They had to add an exception for "trucks" since the DOT allows it, so that those vehicles could be sold in MA. Guess it would have been a nightmare without that exception.

I think legally every vehicle has to have mufflers in MA, but I always got my SRT-4 inspected without trouble. Though many have gotten hassled by cops who don't believe the car came stock without them.

Maybe if the you have a wagon/hatch you can fly under the radar so-to-speak with dark rear windows. How many cops know that a PT Cruiser is a "truck" and a Subaru wagon is a "car"?
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Maybe if the you have a wagon/hatch you can fly under the radar so-to-speak with dark rear windows. How many cops know that a PT Cruiser is a "truck" and a Subaru wagon is a "car"?
Since 2005 the Outback is a light truck. That's why the suspension is on stilts.
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Have a Nice Day? $700 fine.

I just receive a $ 680 fine for window tint and speeding.
$430.00 for speeding
$250.00 for window tint( he measured) i used 35% which came down to 28%.i am going to put 50% for now on.
Be aware on 290 eastbound before the intersection with 190 .
He claimed that i was going 93 mph( there's no way)
I am going to appeal on court.
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The tint law can't be strictly for Law enforcement safety can it??? I mean think about it, would it make ANY sense that if tint on a car is dangerous to an officer that they should then go ahead and pull over cars for the sole reason of having dark tinted windows??? Ummmm...something isnt logical there. Seems kind of dumb to me....lets get real...its just another "hidden tax" a way to pull in revenue. Now if you are speeding, driving wrecklessly, evading police etc etc etc. and get caught doing THAT and THEN get written up for tint...OK, they had a legitimate reason to get you stopped and prevent harm to yourself and the public. Getting pulled over for tint alone is rediculous....because you throw the argument of officer safety right out the window. All the other reasons it shouldnt matter if there is tint or not...trucks SUV's and Vans have the rears tinted from the factory...is that any less dangerous than a car???? LOL... its a Fn' JOKE.
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