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Old 03-22-2013, 12:05 PM   #26
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And yet no one comments on the dude's inappropriate joke? Maybe he should be held equally responsible for his actions.
So you think people should get fired because they might say something that someone else might find offensive?

If he was making that joke at her, perhaps. But he didn't. He wasn't talking to her, and frankly, it wasn't offensive, unless you're looking for a reason to be offended.
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Old 03-22-2013, 12:06 PM   #27
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So you think people should get fired because they might say something that someone else might find offensive?

If he was making that joke at her, perhaps. But he didn't. He wasn't talking to her, and frankly, it wasn't offensive, unless you're looking for a reason to be offended.
Of course not, no one should have been fired. But if we are blaming the woman for saying something, then blame the guy too.
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Old 03-22-2013, 12:06 PM   #28
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And yet no one comments on the dude's inappropriate joke? Maybe he should be held equally responsible for his actions.
Even the guy admitted his joke was inappropriate and apologized, but what's the point of her posting it on Twitter?

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Why is everyone so goddamn offended these days? Nothing bugs me more than delicate, easily offended people.


Bloom County ran this 30 years ago, and things are much, MUCH worse than they were in the 80s.

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I'm sorry but it looks like you have double cause for issues there.

#1. Woman
#2. Minority

that builds that whole defense mechanism/uppity twunt-ness resulting in situations like this. I'm not surprised this happened.
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Old 03-22-2013, 12:08 PM   #31
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Who among us has worked in IT for any considerable amount of time and NOT made a hilarious dongle joke??
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Old 03-22-2013, 12:08 PM   #32
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Why is everyone so goddamn offended these days? Nothing bugs me more than delicate, easily offended people.
Jimmies are easily rustled nowadays, as evidenced here in this thread.
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Old 03-22-2013, 12:09 PM   #33
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lol feminism.



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Old 03-22-2013, 12:09 PM   #34
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Of course not, no one should have been fired. But if we are blaming the woman for saying something, then blame the guy too.
I'm sorry, but her response is worse than the joke that offended her. She could have turned and said something to them, but she decided to blow it up online because she knew the reaction it would create.

That doesn't absolve the Internet from acting like a 13 year odl boy and calling her all sorts of names, or calling for her to kill herself. Then again, we need to stop acting surprised when the Internet reacts to things like this the way it does. I don't think it's genuine misogyny, for the most part. I think they're looking for the easiest way to be offensive. This is why I don't have an X-Box Live account.
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Bad things happen when you give women a voice on the internet.
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Who among us has worked in IT for any considerable amount of time and NOT made a hilarious dongle joke??
Pretty much.

Women should know more about dongles than anyone, really.
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So you blame her for the dude's company deciding to be spineless and fire him?

Really.
That was my take on it.

She can tweet what she likes. It's a free country.

HIS company firing him, rather than siding with him and calming the situation, seems to be the big problem here.

The joke/pun and subsequent tweeting? Meh.

Yet the article seems to just brush off that first firing.
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Ah, vaguely racist misogyny. Classic OT.
Do you hold her entirely blameless? The fact that she snapped a picture to publicly shame someone was over the top. I think the tweet would have been fine without the publicly identifiable information; she would have gotten the message out without being vindictive. This was hardly an overt, targeted remark that deserved such attention.

If she's as sensitive to these issues as she claims to be, then she should have known that calling out a specific person in a very public way is going to result in backing that person's employer into a PR corner. It's naive and/or disingenuous for her to claim the didn't intend or expect for the employee (who is representing his company at a public event) to get fired. What she didn't intend/expect was for her to be viewed as the aggressor rather than the victim.

We may argue that the employer was spineless, too, but the tweet forced their hand.
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I'm sorry, but her response is worse than the joke that offended her. She could have turned and said something to them, but she decided to blow it up online because she knew the reaction it would create.
This exactly.

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There, THAT should get some jimmies all rustled up
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"The tweet forced their hand"

Ok, it is official. People have given twitter far too much power.
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I'm sorry but it looks like you have double cause for issues there.

#1. Woman
#2. Minority
That's not even the issue -- this epidemic of offensensitivity has permeated the entire culture. Men, woman, white, black, gay, straight...everyone has phyllo paper-thick skin these days.
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The default reaction nowadays is to be spineless. Just like that middle school that decided to cancel the special assembly they usually hold for honor students, because the principal said that the dumb kids would be offended.
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What was she doing out of the kitchen anyway, amiright?!?!
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At my last company there was a course they did on sexual harassment. I was impressed that the presenter made a distinction in that course: making ANY kind of sexual comment or joke anywhere in the company ISN'T sexual harassment. If it's a couple of guys in the break room making a pun about "forking a repo" that's not cause for termination.

We're grown ups. Sometimes we hear bad words or bad jokes. That's okay. We don't fire everyone who says "****." If someone fails to act in a professional manner when required... then the company deals with that person, as they should. But some vaguely sexual pun? That's not insta-termination.
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"The tweet forced their hand"

Ok, it is official. People have given twitter far too much power.
THIS is the real problem, exactly.
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It's like the Raiders lost all over again...
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She's not above dick jokes as she claims to be: https://twitter.com/adriarichards/st...65091791847425
I don't think this comment got the attention it deserves, since she is sooo easily offended by dongles, so:
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because the principal said that the dumb kids would be offended.
They SHOULD be offended...by their own stupidity! It's the only way they'll learn.
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Do you hold her entirely blameless? The fact that she snapped a picture to publicly shame someone was over the top. I think the tweet would have been fine without the publicly identifiable information; she would have gotten the message out without being vindictive. This was hardly an overt, targeted remark that deserved such attention.

If she's as sensitive to these issues as she claims to be, then she should have known that calling out a specific person in a very public way is going to result in backing that person's employer into a PR corner. It's naive and/or disingenuous for her to claim the didn't intend or expect for the employee (who is representing his company at a public event) to get fired. What she didn't intend/expect was for her to be viewed as the aggressor rather than the victim.

We may argue that the employer was spineless, too, but the tweet forced their hand.
See, that's the thing, she could have had her cake and eaten it too. All she had to do was make her Tweet without identifying the person in question, she gets to be publicly outraged by misogyny in IT and then she could have addressed the issue with that person privately and actually resolved the problem.
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