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Old 03-26-2013, 01:08 PM   #76
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Reminds me of when I used to want to have the latest phones... tech's progress so fast, others with more money can beat you to it... much like chasing the wind. But it's okay to mod, just "know" when to stop. I'm still stock basically... just deflectors & mudflaps for the last 13k...
Yep, the key is fully enjoying every mod rather than moving on to the next thing and next thing. Before long, you're either out of mods or your car has become unreliable and/or unbearable to drive.
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Old 03-27-2013, 01:46 AM   #77
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I kept my 2011 STi stock for about a month. I then put in a K&N drop in filter and ordered a Nameless Performance axle back because I couldn't stand how quiet the stock exhaust is. I have since added a front lip, OEM fog light kit, & lowering springs. The only other thing I plan on doing to it is buying wheels when it comes time to replace the tires. I had a 2003 evo that I spent a lot of money modifying and told myself I'm not going down that road again since it wasnt cheap. I want to keep my STi car looking good and 110% reliable.
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Old 03-27-2013, 02:29 AM   #78
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my 02 wrx was a total piece of **** when it was stock...TOTAL POS

bloody terrible ****ty little car

my 06 was a little better, but still a real POS in stock form

MOST cars are POS to a real enthusiast in stock form....i have modded every car ive ever owned

anybody who thinks a stock car is just fine....is an idiot...or driving something way better than a subaru
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Old 03-27-2013, 03:28 AM   #79
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my 02 wrx was a total piece of **** when it was stock...TOTAL POS

bloody terrible ****ty little car

my 06 was a little better, but still a real POS in stock form

MOST cars are POS to a real enthusiast in stock form....i have modded every car ive ever owned

anybody who thinks a stock car is just fine....is an idiot...or driving something way better than a subaru
I don't see how that's the case. A stock car gets you from point A to point B just fine. I have no interest on dumping money into cars right now, nor do I have any interest in doing Auto X or any sort of competing/racing. My old ass stock Subaru is comfortable enough, gets mediocre enough gas mileage, and gets me where I need to go. That's just fine for what I need right now.

I'm sure you'll just say I'm not a car enthusiast...but I assure you I would love to have a fast/modded car, but at this point in my life it doesn't make sense and I'm more happy not having to worry about my car breaking down, not being able to make payments, and I don't have to constantly work on it.
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Old 03-27-2013, 03:47 AM   #80
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I don't see how that's the case. A stock car gets you from point A to point B just fine. I have no interest on dumping money into cars right now, nor do I have any interest in doing Auto X or any sort of competing/racing. My old ass stock Subaru is comfortable enough, gets mediocre enough gas mileage, and gets me where I need to go. That's just fine for what I need right now.

I'm sure you'll just say I'm not a car enthusiast...but I assure you I would love to have a fast/modded car, but at this point in my life it doesn't make sense and I'm more happy not having to worry about my car breaking down, not being able to make payments, and I don't have to constantly work on it.


d000000000000000000000000000000000000d

you...like WAY too many just dont get it

i have done NOTHING but maintain my car for about 70k miles.....i drive it like i stole it and run 21psi on the stock turbo
i drive the car 90mph the highway...and drive it off road to jobsites on some very bad unpaved roads...at full gross weight

and i have been modding cars for a long time and a stock wrx is almost as bad as any other rent a car...dont fool yourself, like so many others here do

and no...you arent a real enthusiast...and most here who think they are enthusiasts are just ricer idiots who dont know **** about **** but think they do and that makes those of us who know better a lil

but i digress....
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Old 03-27-2013, 07:25 AM   #81
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Yep, the key is fully enjoying every mod rather than moving on to the next thing and next thing. Before long, you're either out of mods or your car has become unreliable and/or unbearable to drive.
Very true. I tried to stop just shy of unstreetable and skidded across that line a little bit... Nothing like having to undo mods... (I put GSP lateral links and trailing arms and now my Impreza rides loud and ****ty.)

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I don't see how that's the case. A stock car gets you from point A to point B just fine. I have no interest on dumping money into cars right now, nor do I have any interest in doing Auto X or any sort of competing/racing. My old ass stock Subaru is comfortable enough, gets mediocre enough gas mileage, and gets me where I need to go. That's just fine for what I need right now.

I'm sure you'll just say I'm not a car enthusiast...but I assure you I would love to have a fast/modded car, but at this point in my life it doesn't make sense and I'm more happy not having to worry about my car breaking down, not being able to make payments, and I don't have to constantly work on it.
Mother of god, I hope you're not making payments on a 95 leg.

I think the older ones are the best to dump money into:



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Okay, you can't see the performance ****, but it goes like stink and rides like it's on rails.

I was making a diligent effort to leave my 05 OBW stock, but I'm already lining up a few tasteful mods. Won't be as crazy as my OBS, but it will be a looker
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Old 03-27-2013, 09:02 AM   #82
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before I even took delivery of my 12wrx I already had about 6k worth of parts sitting at home waiting to go in. drove my car stock from the dealer to work, about 10 miles!!
wheels, tires, lip, rear diffuser, exhaust heat shield, mud flaps, shift knob, coilovers, cobb intake, cobb AP, cat back exhaust, all went on the car within the first month, but now I have had the car for almost a year and I haven't done anything else
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Old 03-27-2013, 03:58 PM   #83
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50k miles on a 08wrx with just a cobb OTS tune.

i have another toy thats really heavily modified
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Old 03-27-2013, 06:14 PM   #84
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d000000000000000000000000000000000000d

you...like WAY too many just dont get it

i have done NOTHING but maintain my car for about 70k miles.....i drive it like i stole it and run 21psi on the stock turbo
i drive the car 90mph the highway...and drive it off road to jobsites on some very bad unpaved roads...at full gross weight

and i have been modding cars for a long time and a stock wrx is almost as bad as any other rent a car...dont fool yourself, like so many others here do

and no...you arent a real enthusiast...and most here who think they are enthusiasts are just ricer idiots who dont know **** about **** but think they do and that makes those of us who know better a lil

but i digress....
Nah I just don't think you get what other people like.

Being smart and driving a reliable stock car is a whole lot better than modding your car and then not being able to make the payments on it.
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Old 03-27-2013, 06:27 PM   #85
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Okay, you can't see the performance ****, but it goes like stink and rides like it's on rails.
jealous, I love GC OBS's...
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Old 03-27-2013, 09:18 PM   #86
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Nah I just don't think you get what other people like.

Being smart and driving a reliable stock car is a whole lot better than modding your car and then not being able to make the payments on it.
being stupid is what you and a lot of others are REALLY good at

i bypassed all that

only idiots like you think a stock car is worth driving....ya better off riding the bus


and maybe the company you work for will go out of business and you will lose your job and be unemployed for months and months and lose everything you have

for good

im still driving my car...paid for, modded, reliable as hell and all that

maybe you will pull your kiddie little head out of your kiddie little ass like the rest of the worthless kiddies around here

but i doubt it

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Old 03-27-2013, 09:46 PM   #87
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I drive a base model wagon No need to mod...besides the shifter
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Old 03-27-2013, 09:59 PM   #88
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My 99 legacy is stock as can be.. all 47k original miles and all.
My 2000 swapped rs on the other hand, not so much
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:08 AM   #89
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My wrx is completely stock right now besides rally armor mudflaps. I only plan on doing minor things in the future.
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Old 03-28-2013, 10:56 AM   #90
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Uncle Scotty, the name of this post is "How many of you are driving your cars in STOCK form?" not,"get bashed for running stock." Your calling US "kiddies"? Why don't you look in the mirror and go somewhere else and play in your little "kiddie" sand box with the other baby trolls and leave us alone?

It's not like I didn't want to mod. I just didn't and still don't have the cash.
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Old 03-28-2013, 11:34 AM   #91
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Our 2012 WRX is stock, even still on the tires the factory installed. The things I'd change about it aren't things I can reasonably change with mods, so I just accept it in stock form.
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Old 03-28-2013, 12:15 PM   #92
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my 02 wrx was a total piece of **** when it was stock...TOTAL POS

bloody terrible ****ty little car

my 06 was a little better, but still a real POS in stock form

MOST cars are POS to a real enthusiast in stock form....i have modded every car ive ever owned

anybody who thinks a stock car is just fine....is an idiot...or driving something way better than a subaru
No, it's fine for everyone else. The idiot in this is someone who thinks an economy car should perform better than a 60K dollar car. These things were never anything more than a 25K dollar sporty car for the masses. Anyone who doesn't see that... is an idiot. Any group that has an above average interst in a hobby will always want more.

If you can't afford a "real enthuasts car", then you're stuck modifying a non-enthuasts car into what YOU want. Subaru doesn't care, and they really shouldn't.
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Ummm... a car that gets 17/26mpg? Just what is "economy" about that? "Sporty car for the masses,"that's more like it. I hate it when people call this an economy car. The plain ole non-turbo 2.5RS doesn't get that good gas mileage either. And I challenge anyone to find a better preforming or more praised car from 2003 for under 26,000$ new. If there were,I would have bought that one.
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Uncle Scotty, the name of this post is "How many of you are driving your cars in STOCK form?" not,"get bashed for running stock." Your calling US "kiddies"? Why don't you look in the mirror and go somewhere else and play in your little "kiddie" sand box with the other baby trolls and leave us alone?

It's not like I didn't want to mod. I just didn't and still don't have the cash.
Don't feed him. He's just upset that a stock GR WRX would run circles around his modded 06.
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Old 03-28-2013, 04:08 PM   #95
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Ummm... a car that gets 17/26mpg? Just what is "economy" about that? "Sporty car for the masses,"that's more like it. I hate it when people call this an economy car.
It's an econo-car (Impreza) with a semi-sporty engine, that's it. People buy it because it has a nice balance of function and sportiness.
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Uncle Scotty- I usually agree with the things you say. In fact- most times I come on here looking for helpful info, I usually find it on a thread of yours or one of your posts.....but this time I couldn't disagree with you more.

Saying someone who thinks a stock car is perfectly fine is an idiot?!? What if that person wants to keep things simple and just wants 1 car? What if they need it to take their kids to & from school and if its their only means of transportation? The last thing they would want to deal with, is downtime because their car is in the shop being modded, tuned...or even worse- trying to figure out where a boost leak is, or where that clunk in the suspension is coming from.

I'm sure they rather just call the dealer, make an appointment, drop the car off and drive away in a loaner.

To some people, the performance you can get from a stock WRX or STI, is already way more than enough.

My car has thicker sway bars and a stage 1 tune. Basically stock and with full warranty. It handles awesome and I can hit 0-60 in 4.6 seconds....I really don't need to go much faster than that.
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Uncle Scotty- I usually agree with the things you say. In fact- most times I come on here looking for helpful info, I usually find it on a thread of yours or one of your posts.....but this time I couldn't disagree with you more.
yeah...they shoulda got a prius or at least something that uses regular fuel and wont blow up on the stock tune

turbo subarus really are VERY poor choices in cars if ya gonna leave them stock

they just suck in so many ways its hard to even get started

but only a true moron would spend the money on one of these cars and leave it stock when they could get a MUCH more reliable car that the cost of ownership would be FAR-FAR less

kinda like that commercial......who wants MORE???
lotsa idiots want LESS

many people are quite simple minded and fail to condiser the whole ball of wax on things like this

no way in hell id buy a new turbo subaru and leave the stock tune on it
its a ticking time bomb waiting to blow up on you right out of warrantee and eat you alive.....the tires suck...the suspension is marshmallow soft...the alignment may be quite dangerous and on and on and on and on

people need to wake UP and see what is really going on and stop being stupid about things like this

there are a lot of people who just really dont think very well and dont wanna admit that they made a mistake buying one of these cars....

or they just have no idea how BAD one of these cars really is in plain stock form because they dont know any better(or AGAIN, wont admit it)


but....ive only been here 10+ years and seen it all..... and ive modded every car ive ever owned--which has been A LOT of cars...over the years....every last one of them improved by being modded

i wonder how many of these cars are wrecked because idiots owning them made the mistake of insisting that they keep them stock

yeah....people just dont THINK...and/or dont know....but some of us DO KNOW better


idiots....lots and lots of them
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"yeah...they shoulda got a prius or at least something that uses regular fuel and wont blow up on the stock tune"

A prius is no fun. If someone has to have "1" car that meets all their must-haves (4dr, seats 5, hatchback, awd and FAST!)- I don't know of any other type of car for 30k that will get you all that.

"turbo subarus really are VERY poor choices in cars if ya gonna leave them stock"

The older models, maybe...but not now-a-days. I'm willing to bet- you put equal drivers in a wrx built between 09-13 against your modded '06 wrx...your car would lose.

"they just suck in so many ways its hard to even get started"

That's just a pointless blanket statement.

"but only a true moron would spend the money on one of these cars and leave it stock when they could get a MUCH more reliable car that the cost of ownership would be FAR-FAR less"

I agree that if anyone bought any type of car KNOWING it had a stock tune that would eventually blow the engine up, they'd be crazy not to address the problem asap. As far as reliability- I'm about to hit 60k and never had any serious issues. Other than replacing my clutch, brake pads & rotors- I haven't had to dump any money into it.

"no way in hell id buy a new turbo subaru and leave the stock tune on it
its a ticking time bomb waiting to blow up on you right out of warrantee and eat you alive"


like I said above- I agree 110%

"the tires suck...the suspension is marshmallow soft...the alignment may be quite dangerous and on and on and on and on"

My stock Dunlop summer tires are f'ing awesome. 3 years of driving on some of the crappiest roads in NY & NJ- My car still drives straight as an arrow. Never had to get an alignment done and never had any reason to feel like I was in "danger"

"there are a lot of people who just really dont think very well and dont wanna admit that they made a mistake buying one of these cars...."

I bet chances are there are a lot more people who just weren't thinking when they decided to slam their car on coilovers...and now they don't want to admit that their car rides like *****, they're tired of replacing tires every 10 thousand miles...and they should've just left the damn car alone. Or, they just don't care how the car drives because they're the type of straight-bill-cap-girlfriend's-jeans-wearing "kids", who considers "FUN" to be driving from their parent's driveway to some get-together in the back of a Pathmark store and standing next to their car for 2 hours straight, just hoping someone snaps a pic of them and posts it on NASIOC and FB.

I'd like to respond to your other statements...but I have to get back to work!
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I have 30k on my WRX and it is completely stock (if you don't count the SPT exhaust and short throw shifter from the factory). I have had only 1 major problem with the car and that was when it died from hitting a huge pothole- and was repaired under warranty.

I will tune it with the accessport when the motor warranty is up because I do believe there is room for improvement. Is the factory tune really going to blow up my engine? I doubt that. I don't treat my WRX like a racecar.
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I will tune it with the accessport when the motor warranty is up because I do believe there is room for improvement. Is the factory tune really going to blow up my engine? I doubt that. I don't treat my WRX like a racecar.
Similarly, I don't want to mess with the car while its still under warranty, but steps to manage the relatively poor factory tune will happen after the warranty is up.

We also don't treat the car like a racecar - we have other cars for that purpose. As a result, the factory tires are "good enough" - it's rarely below freezing here and we don't need the grip of lower treadwear summers on the WRX. The soft suspension is actually better for our use than a stiffer one would be - we want ride quality out of this car, not handling prowess. The car transitions well and will take a set and hold good G in a turn (particularly for the lower grip OEM tires), so the softness doesn't need to be changed.

So why not a Prius (or other basic economy car)? Fun factor. We both wanted a car that would make us smile as we drove it, and he wanted a car whose acceleration wouldn't be disappointing after daily driving his track car. There are few cars out there that can balance the cargo capacity and softer ride we needed, with the "not too big" that we wanted for central Houston, and the fun/acceleration we wanted, and among those that are up to the task, the WRX was the best deal. It's not a perfect car by any means, but it fits both our needs and our wants reasonably in stock form (with a warranty).
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