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Old 03-24-2013, 03:41 PM   #26
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As stated before, go to whichever cost less and never get married.
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Old 03-24-2013, 05:03 PM   #27
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With scholarships UDels tuition is the same..


I got wait listed to UPenn. Even if I get in, it's $55,000+ a year and I don't think it's the ideal college environment for me.
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Old 03-24-2013, 05:38 PM   #28
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If he could get into U of Penn, he wouldn't be looking at PSU or UD. If he wanted Del State, he could just go shoot himself in the thigh and mail-order a diploma.
Are you always this dense?

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I got wait listed to UPenn. Even if I get in, it's $55,000+ a year and I don't think it's the ideal college environment for me.
What does tuition have to do with the college environment?
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Old 03-24-2013, 05:55 PM   #29
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What does tuition have to do with the college environment?
It doesn't. They are two different things, and I don't like either.
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Old 03-24-2013, 06:10 PM   #30
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It doesn't. They are two different things, and I don't like either.
You don't like tuition nor a college environment?
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Old 03-24-2013, 06:14 PM   #31
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$55,000 a year? I wouldn't even go to college

What the ****.
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Old 03-24-2013, 06:41 PM   #32
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Steps for success:
1. Contact the marketing dept (the school, not the place that prints brochures) at each university and ask the following:
a. What percent of your graduates have a job offer before graduating?
b. What percent of your graduates are employed within 6 months of graduation?
c. What is the mean salary of your graduates?
2. Decide if you like these numbers.
- If yes, go to the more cost effective school.
- If no, switch majors to engineering or management.
3. ???
4. Profit.
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I'll add that you should consider switching your major. Finance, Accounting and potentially the HR or International degrees (if you want to silo yourself) are the only ones worth the cost of college in the business school.

I have a Marketing degree with a minor in MIS and the MIS minor has benefited me more than the marketing degree. I also went back to get another, more useful, degree once I was in the workplace because a Marketing degree is near the bottom of the barrel of Business degrees.

Now as a manager who has hired four people in the past 3 months and I have two more open spots, I see an higher number of unemployed Marketing majors than any other degrees that's coming across my desk.


Seriously look at any of the engineering degrees. There is a shortage in engineering staff in the US and it will only continue to grow as there is a manufacturing and industry resurgence.

In my industry (oil and gas, but its similar in many other industries), an engineering degree will net you $60k right out of school, no experience. A Marketing degree will be lucky to hit $40k and I know many who started at $28k and were happy to even be employed.

If I'm comparing the exact same role, and yes there are a few positions where both quality, there is a $10k starting salary difference between the two degrees.
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Old 03-24-2013, 06:57 PM   #33
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Seriously look at any of the engineering degrees.
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In my industry (oil and gas, but its similar in many other industries), an engineering degree will net you $60k right out of school, no experience.
And this. Actually, if someone went into the oil industry with an engineering degree and co-op experience, I'd be shocked if they weren't making north of $60k right out of school.
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Old 03-24-2013, 07:37 PM   #34
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~$60k a year + benefits is the normal starting salary for graduating engineers. I know 5 Penn State engineering grads out here who started at the same time as me. Seem like a good bunch. Engineering definitely isn't for everyone, but if you can get through school with decent grades, the financial reward is about as good as it gets right out of college.

As far as I know, everyone in my mechanical engineering class had an offer before graduation, or was going to grad school. We had a lot of people drop out after freshman/sophomore year, though. They mostly switched to business degrees.

One friend (IE) went into the oil industry and is making $80k/yr salary. He hates his job though. He travels between CO, TX, & ND. The company pays him for food, gas, car stipend, and hotels while he is travelling, which is about half of the time. He's going to do it for as long as he can until he can't tolerate it, then he is going to find another job and buy a house outright.
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Old 03-24-2013, 07:58 PM   #35
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I can't see myself doing engineering. I live next to lehigh, and I got in there. That's a top engineering school(Better than psu). But I see myself more in the business part of company. I do want to make money though, so maybe a financial degree would be more beneficial.
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Old 03-24-2013, 08:05 PM   #36
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I do want to make money though, so maybe a financial degree would be more beneficial.
Good luck with that.
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Old 03-24-2013, 08:07 PM   #37
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Don't do engineering for money. You'll hate it. Dentistry or pharmacy are better jobs to do for money rather than love.
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Old 03-24-2013, 08:08 PM   #38
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Are you always this dense?
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Old 03-24-2013, 08:33 PM   #39
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I can't see myself doing engineering. I live next to lehigh, and I got in there. That's a top engineering school(Better than psu). But I see myself more in the business part of company. I do want to make money though, so maybe a financial degree would be more beneficial.
Take a look at industrial engineering. That discipline deals with organizing all aspects of a manufacturing/production-type business. Its not engineering in the typical sense . Another option is supply chain management. They get to travel, deal with suppliers, and talk about money.
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Old 03-24-2013, 10:16 PM   #40
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Take a look at industrial engineering. That discipline deals with organizing all aspects of a manufacturing/production-type business. Its not engineering in the typical sense . Another option is supply chain management. They get to travel, deal with suppliers, and talk about money.
supply chain interests me so much actually, and Penn State is a top 5 school for that.
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Old 03-24-2013, 10:25 PM   #41
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Old 03-24-2013, 10:51 PM   #42
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PSU hands down...... i mean..

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Old 03-25-2013, 09:01 AM   #43
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PSU 03, so I am a little biased. Few good reasons to go to Penn State:

-Recognition. Because of the football program and the scandal (which will eventually be a distant memory), everyone recognizes the name.

-It's a party school. UDel is as well, but I have been to both. It is a great town with a lot of charm. If you haven't visited it, you'll be sold.

-It's a good school with a lot of programs. The school is HUGE, so there are good options for when you decide that pre-colombian language was not the best pick for a major.
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Old 03-25-2013, 09:31 AM   #44
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supply chain interests me so much actually, and Penn State is a top 5 school for that.
PSU '09 with a Supply Chain degree. You can't really go wrong with either school. Although if you are going for business, I'd go with PSU. Brand new facilities, lots of recognition, and a HUGE alumni network. Plus the party scene is better for when you're done with your work.
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Old 03-25-2013, 09:38 AM   #45
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I recommend a community college.
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Old 03-25-2013, 10:27 AM   #46
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supply chain interests me so much actually, and Penn State is a top 5 school for that.
If that's the case, Penn State, no doubt.

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Old 03-25-2013, 11:17 AM   #47
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Depends on how motivated your are as a student. PSU is huge. Lots of opportunities and a top 50 business school, but it's easy to get lost in the crowd. UD has a nice campus, excellent facilities and a good small town feel for an outsider. The business school is quality too. Also when it comes time to co-op/intern there is a huge selection of companies to choose from in between Wilmington and Philly.

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Old 03-25-2013, 11:30 AM   #48
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I am a highschool senior and my next stage in life is college. I got into a couple great schools but I have my eyes on University of Delaware and Penn State. I plan on majoring in marketing with a double minor in some sort of finance, and another minor in management.

The hardest part is choosing the school..

I'm sure a lot of people have gone to PSU or UD on here. I'm just lookin for some reviews, advice, etc. on these colleges. A college brochure and college "student" reviews are mediocre at best.
Your choice of school won't matter. But here's the best advice you can get on college:

Well, here's all you need to know. Classes: nothing before eleven. Beer: it's your best friend, drink a lot of it. Women? You're a freshman, so it's pretty much out of the question. Will you have a car? Probably not. Someone on your floor will. Find them and make friends with them on the first day.
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Old 03-25-2013, 04:40 PM   #49
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I am a highschool senior and my next stage in life is college. I got into a couple great schools but I have my eyes on University of Delaware and Penn State. I plan on majoring in marketing with a double minor in some sort of finance, and another minor in management.

The hardest part is choosing the school..

I'm sure a lot of people have gone to PSU or UD on here. I'm just lookin for some reviews, advice, etc. on these colleges. A college brochure and college "student" reviews are mediocre at best.

Do you know any folks who graduated from either college with a degree in marketing and are currently employed?

I had a friend who graduated marketing from PSU. After 5 years with poor job prospects, he returned to school for nursing and now is almost finished with a masters in anesthesiology. He spent a lot of money and time at that penn state school.

What do you want to do when you graduate? What companies do you want to work for?
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Old 03-25-2013, 08:37 PM   #50
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University of Delaware - 57% female, 43% male.

Penn State (University Park) - 46% female, 54% male
The quality of that 57% is insane, too.
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