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Old 03-20-2013, 10:14 AM   #1
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Hey All. I am currently preparring my car for track usage and I have a question I cant seem to find through the search. I did find one post but it lacked an important detail. I believe I should mention that there are no shops or retailers anywhere near me where I can go and sit in various seats, hold different steering wheels etc... If there was, I would not be posting this.
What I need to know is whether or not I will need a flat steering wheel, a medium dish or a deep dish? I ask this because many of the retailers I see have a no return policy on wheels and seats so I would like to get this as correct as possible the first time.

I quess my question is what will it take to get a new wheel, hub and QR relatively damn near where my oe wheel sits now or slightly closer to the driver? Would this involve the short splash hub, a QR and a flat wheel? Or to get that desired distance would I need the regular splash hub, QR and a deep dish? Meduim dish?

The one post I did find, the guy had the short splash, a QR but he didnt mention what mm of dish the wheel was but mentioned that the distance was pretty close to original and from the forward facing pic I cant tell if its flat or not.
I predict some will say it depends on where your seat is, but my new bucket will be mounted right where the old one sat, lower of course, my pedals are not adjustable and I am 5' 11" so I can only go back so far!
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Old 03-20-2013, 10:41 AM   #2
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No matter what dish steering wheel, running the Qr will move the steering wheel back about 1 1/2". I have the Splash QR and "regular" hub with a Personal wheel and it sets the wheel in the perfect position. I'm about 6' 1" and I positioned the seat so I have a very slight bend in the knew with the clutch all the way in.
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Old 03-20-2013, 10:53 AM   #3
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I would caution this - wheels are closer to the driver for a reason: It allows you to have better control of the wheel as well as use more muscles (more shoulder vs arm). They are quick release for a reason too: because they are so close!

Just food for thought.
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Old 03-20-2013, 11:03 AM   #4
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Depends where you have your seat set. For example, since I am short guy (5'4") in order for me to reach the pedals in my race seat I need to be a little closer to the wheels which is why I would need a flat wheel, you don't want to be too close either, you want to be able to extend your arms to about 103 degree angle. If i were to get a deep dish wheel my arms would be close a 90 degree angle and I would not have as much control of the car and it would be really uncomfortable.
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Old 03-20-2013, 11:32 AM   #5
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A good test for proper wheel position is to extend your arms out straight and rest them on top of the wheel. They should touch just behind your palm. Sort of where your wrist and hand meet. IMO a little closer is better than a little further away.
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Old 03-20-2013, 12:25 PM   #6
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No matter what dish steering wheel, running the Qr will move the steering wheel back about 1 1/2". I have the Splash QR and "regular" hub with a Personal wheel and it sets the wheel in the perfect position. I'm about 6' 1" and I positioned the seat so I have a very slight bend in the knew with the clutch all the way in.
Is your steering wheel flat or dished? Does this put your steering wheel roughly where it was originally? Closer to dash? Closer to you?

As I sit now, with my shoulders planted back in the seat, my wrists touch the top of the wheel. I would like to keep it this way.

Would a regular splash hub, QR and a flat wheel put the wheel in the same position as my oe wheel sits now (roughly) or will I need a short hub to achieve that?
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Old 03-20-2013, 02:35 PM   #7
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this is a good write up about seat positioning/where you should be in term of the steering wheel.

http://yel.pca.org/the-correct-driving-position/
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That is a great write-up, for dudes who look left and find themselves looking out the back seat side window! haha
All the more reason why I need to know what hub, qr and dish type wheel will put me where the oe wheel is now!

Looking for someone to say . . .
"Reg hub, this QR and flat wheel is really close to oe"

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"Short hub, this QR and 39mm dished wheel is really close to oe" etc...

Once I know this, I will be able to determine what set-up will put me where I need to be!
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Old 03-20-2013, 03:12 PM   #9
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Is the stock wheel too far, too close or just right? We have to know that first
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Stock wheel is OK, a little closer to me would be the business!
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better to get it a bit too far away than too close, they make spacers to bring the wheel closer to you that work with most QR's
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Stock wheel is OK, a little closer to me would be the business!
Regular hub, regular qr, low dish wheel or slim, slim, high dish. Both are closer than stock and get you where you want
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That gets me going in the right direction, Thanks RJ.
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With the regular Splash hub, NRG QR, and Personal steering wheel. It's about 1 1/2" closer.

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Thats helps too, Thank you!
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And FYI...I love the Personal steering wheel. Just the right size. It's a little bit bigger in diameter than a lot of the other racing wheels I tried (mostly Sparco models), but smaller than the stock wheel. And it's held up really well. After over 5+ years of track days it still looks great and the fabric hasn't smoothed or hardened.
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