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Old 03-25-2013, 04:33 PM   #51
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I always enjoy reading your build. Excellent photos and highly detailed. If only all cars could be modded with the thought and attention you put into yours.
Thanks! Should have tons of photos to dump into this thread soon.

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You mean when you change your mind? Maybe start a pool to guess how long this set up lasts before that happens.
I'm really not too interested in swapping to twin scroll. I like the v-band.

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If this is only "stage 1," does that mean there is a "stage 2" in the works?
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Well hopefully you can save up for a and get some cans in a reflash in the future it will be like a whole new car all over again. Keep checking in on my thread about May or June I should be getting my 6262 tuned on E85. Aiming for 600 on 25-26 psi. My realistic guess is 585 at 25
With cams, I think those numbers make sense. I would think I could hit 600 with cams. Hopefully someday.
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Old 03-25-2013, 04:38 PM   #52
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Ha. New there was something up your sleeve. And here I had some pity points for you going back to stage one... :P Whole new definition of stage 1.
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Old 03-25-2013, 04:50 PM   #53
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Bore and hone for 99.75mm pistons. Torque plates attached. NF can comment if anything else was done...
Thanks for the info. Very interested to know if anything else was done. Who did the bore and hone?
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Thanks for the info. Very interested to know if anything else was done. Who did the bore and hone?
I suspect you'll want to talk directly to NF Performance for details.
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Old 03-25-2013, 05:09 PM   #55
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I would like to, but had no idea who 'NF Performance' is. Their user name has not made very many posts on NASIOC. After some noodling around I have found out that it is Nuke & Fuji Performance.

Hopefully FujiK can jump in and provide the answer!
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Old 03-25-2013, 05:17 PM   #56
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Stock cams and journal bearing turbo's were both made based on cost considerations. I was also curious what the stock cams could do. Obviously a 272 or similar would increase my top end output considerably. The journal bearing PTE's have made plenty of power. I just hope it lasts a while. The single scroll turbo was because I wanted to use a v-band setup. I had the manifold made so that if I decide I want twin scroll later I can just get a new uppipe made, and not a whole new manifold
I understand the cost considerations! I wanted to rotate a PTE turbo (the same one you have here) on my build but because we had just done the custom up pipe for my Killer B and the custom EWG exhaust not that ling ago, I decided to stay stock location because of the cost!

If you wanted to go TS you could swap the up pipe, add a gate or a divided single gate and swap the HS housing on your 6266. It would be an easy swap from SS to TS!

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Fuel pump has been working well. I have it hardwired and it goes on 100% any time the car is on. I don't think there's any way around this with the OEM fuel pump controller. We had some issues with it overrunning the stock FPR, so I bought a Fuelab FPR. It is working better, but it still won't go below 55psi base pressure. Since I have plenty of injector I would rather drop the base pressure and get some more flow out of the pump, but the FPR just won't go any lower.
You've got the fueling to get to 600 no problem. I'm running the same fuel pump re-wired but through the stock FPC. It works well!

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Yes, yes. You sound like Fuji!
I'll take that as a compliment for sure! Fuji is pretty darn smart and talented!!

Please don't take my comments wrong. I absolutely love what you guys have done here with your car and it's good to see it evolve to this.

Fuji's heads work is soooo nice that it's almost a shame to not have at least some 264's or 272's either GCS's or Kelfords. You would have 600 WHP without a doubt and without much sweat from that turbo.

I'm making 560 WHP with my Dom 3.5XTR/ 58 lb./ min. turbo and ID1000cc injectors. You've got another 15-16 lb/min!! I'm not sure if you've seen my thread and I'm not trying to jack here but take a look and let me know what you think! http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2480570

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Old 03-25-2013, 05:36 PM   #57
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I understand the cost considerations! I wanted to rotate a PTE turbo (the same one you have here) on my build but because we had just done the custom up pipe for my Killer B and the custom EWG exhaust not that ling ago, I decided to stay stock location because of the cost!

If you wanted to go TS you could swap the up pipe, add a gate or a divided single gate and swap the HD housing on your 6266. It would be an easy swap for SS to TS!



You've got the fueling to get to 600 no problem. I'm running the same fuel pump re-wired but through the stock FPC. It works well!



I'll take that as a compliment for sure! Fuji is pretty darn smart and talented!!

Please don't take my comments wrong. I absolutely love what you guys have done here with your car and it's good to see it evolve to this.

Fuji's heads work is soooo nice that it's almost a shame to not have at least some 264's or 272's either GCS's or Kelfords. You would have 600 WHP without a doubt and without much sweat from that turbo.

I'm making 560 WHP with my Dom 3.5XTR/ 58 lb./ min. turbo and ID1000cc injectors. You've got another 15-16 lb/min!! I,m not sure if you've seen my thread and I'm not trying to jack here but take a look and let me know what you think! http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2480570
You guys are running about the same boost but what about the timing ?

Nothing wrong with a journal bearing turbo at least they are no as expensive to fix as a non rebuildable garrett CHRA
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Old 03-25-2013, 05:46 PM   #58
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Thanks for the info. Very interested to know if anything else was done. Who did the bore and hone?
What would you like to know?

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Old 03-25-2013, 05:48 PM   #59
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Fuji's heads work is soooo nice that it's almost a shame to not have at least some 264's or 272's either GCS's or Kelfords. You would have 600 WHP without a doubt and without much sweat from that turbo.
Can easily hit 600 with cams. That's the only thing Ben doesn't have on his setup. After that, sleeves

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Old 03-25-2013, 05:56 PM   #60
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That's the only thing Ben doesn't have on his setup.
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Old 03-25-2013, 06:15 PM   #61
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Very nice, i bought the same turbo but non v band. Congrats on making the switch to rotated setup. I like how NF advertises the stage 1 as not much just a 6266.
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Old 03-25-2013, 06:25 PM   #62
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You guys are running about the same boost but what about the timing ?
Always fishing Juan!.....hahaha

My boost is at 27 psi, it could be more easily but I'm out of injector. Maybe when ID starts shipping the 1300's, then we could turn it up some more!
Jr would rather I not discuss the specifics of his tuning but I'm really not running much timing. We could have made more torque and easily over 500 but Junior likes to build a very smooth rounded power curve! Sometimes they don't feel as fast because of the way it comes on but they usually prove to be very fast! If Junior wants to comment I'll let him do so!

We'll have to let Nuke comment about his tune here but it looks very good! the torque has a bit more of a peak than mine but that's probably somewhat a reflection of the stock cams.

Both excellent tuners we are making reference to!
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haha the only way to compared to cars is to know all the parameters

Both cars are amazing machines

track time!
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You guys are running about the same boost but what about the timing ?

Nothing wrong with a journal bearing turbo at least they are no as expensive to fix as a non rebuildable garrett CHRA
I missed it first but sorry, sounds like you had to buy a me CHRA
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Old 03-25-2013, 06:49 PM   #65
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haha the only way to compared to cars is to know all the parameters

Both cars are amazing machines

track time!
Yes both are amazing but this is becoming somewhat the norm here, man there are a lot of nice builds going on right now! Not trying to detract from Ben's car, I love it, it's stealth like mine!!! Most folks have no idea! lol

Agreed track time but I've got a couple upgrades to do before I go to drag radials. I want to run it on my big street tires first!
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I think it is funny.. when i first joined in november of 08, 400whp was fast. 500 was crazy and 600+ was wtf are ypu thinking. 600 now doesnt even come.on the radar as off the wall nuts ... when it should. Besides evos id be willing to bet our cars are some of the most fun dollar for dollar.

Kudos to the tuners, shops, engineers and owners who have stuck their neck out!
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^^^What Levon said! Fantastic job here NF Performance and Ben!! Keep up the great work
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Old 03-25-2013, 07:04 PM   #68
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but these turbos like boost though!
OOhhh Yeaah! It's probably not in it's peak efficiency until 27-28 psi!

Ben, Can I get you to take some photos of my XTI? Your pics are awesome!
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Awesome car, guys. 8,100RPM!? What has been done for oiling?
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I wonder what this would make on pump gas on say 25psi

Ps. Awsm work
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Old 03-25-2013, 08:26 PM   #72
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Ha. New there was something up your sleeve. And here I had some pity points for you going back to stage one... :P Whole new definition of stage 1.
I hope you didn't feel too bad for me. Stage 1 may have been a bit misleading...

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Thanks for the info. Very interested to know if anything else was done. Who did the bore and hone?
NF has a shop they use.

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I would like to, but had no idea who 'NF Performance' is. Their user name has not made very many posts on NASIOC. After some noodling around I have found out that it is Nuke & Fuji Performance.

Hopefully FujiK can jump in and provide the answer!
Correct. Nuke and Fuji have been posting in this thread.

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I understand the cost considerations! I wanted to rotate a PTE turbo (the same one you have here) on my build but because we had just done the custom up pipe for my Killer B and the custom EWG exhaust not that ling ago, I decided to stay stock location because of the cost!

If you wanted to go TS you could swap the up pipe, add a gate or a divided single gate and swap the HS housing on your 6266. It would be an easy swap from SS to TS!

You've got the fueling to get to 600 no problem. I'm running the same fuel pump re-wired but through the stock FPC. It works well!

I'll take that as a compliment for sure! Fuji is pretty darn smart and talented!!

Please don't take my comments wrong. I absolutely love what you guys have done here with your car and it's good to see it evolve to this.

Fuji's heads work is soooo nice that it's almost a shame to not have at least some 264's or 272's either GCS's or Kelfords. You would have 600 WHP without a doubt and without much sweat from that turbo.

I'm making 560 WHP with my Dom 3.5XTR/ 58 lb./ min. turbo and ID1000cc injectors. You've got another 15-16 lb/min!! I'm not sure if you've seen my thread and I'm not trying to jack here but take a look and let me know what you think! http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2480570
That was the plan for the SS to TS swap (if I decide to).
Does yours turn on and off? I'm almost positive that's not possible with my car (based on looking at the schematics in the service manual).
I do know that the whole setup would benefit from cams. They're on the list for sure. The turbo has plenty of headroom! And the heads can flow it!
Your build looks great. I have been watching it once in a while.

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You guys are running about the same boost but what about the timing?

Nothing wrong with a journal bearing turbo at least they are no as expensive to fix as a non rebuildable garrett CHRA
Always with the timing. Lol.

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Very nice, i bought the same turbo but non v band. Congrats on making the switch to rotated setup. I like how NF advertises the stage 1 as not much just a 6266.
Yeah, no big deal.

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Always fishing Juan!.....hahaha

My boost is at 27 psi, it could be more easily but I'm out of injector. Maybe when ID starts shipping the 1300's, then we could turn it up some more!
Jr would rather I not discuss the specifics of his tuning but I'm really not running much timing. We could have made more torque and easily over 500 but Junior likes to build a very smooth rounded power curve! Sometimes they don't feel as fast because of the way it comes on but they usually prove to be very fast! If Junior wants to comment I'll let him do so!

We'll have to let Nuke comment about his tune here but it looks very good! the torque has a bit more of a peak than mine but that's probably somewhat a reflection of the stock cams.

Both excellent tuners we are making reference to!
We played with boost in the 27-29psi range and different timing. Nuke decided to go with this for now. I'm sure we'll do some more tweaking here and there.

The long 4th gear in my car seems to make that peak torque really bump up. I'm not sure what gearing your car has, but I know that third gear doesn't peak like that on my car.

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haha the only way to compared to cars is to know all the parameters

Both cars are amazing machines

track time!
Parameters are all secret

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I missed it first but sorry, sounds like you had to buy a me CHRA
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Yes both are amazing but this is becoming somewhat the norm here, man there are a lot of nice builds going on right now! Not trying to detract from Ben's car, I love it, it's stealth like mine!!! Most folks have no idea! lol

Agreed track time but I've got a couple upgrades to do before I go to drag radials. I want to run it on my big street tires first!
I think I'll try a couple passes on my street tires too. I have RPF1's this year, so they're really nice and light. My car really gets zero attention on the street. Almost too stealthy.

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I think it is funny.. when i first joined in november of 08, 400whp was fast. 500 was crazy and 600+ was wtf are ypu thinking. 600 now doesnt even come.on the radar as off the wall nuts ... when it should. Besides evos id be willing to bet our cars are some of the most fun dollar for dollar.

Kudos to the tuners, shops, engineers and owners who have stuck their neck out!
Yeah, a lot has changed in the last 5 years. Even the last 2 years since I joined. People are going a lot faster, and I'm glad to be one of them!

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^^^What Levon said! Fantastic job here NF Performance and Ben!! Keep up the great work
Thanks guys. And thanks to all the guys at NF Performance!

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OOhhh Yeaah! It's probably not in it's peak efficiency until 27-28 psi!

Ben, Can I get you to take some photos of my XTI? Your pics are awesome!
I think that's why NF wanted to turn up the boost a bit. The turbo really likes it!

Sure, I can take photos, just stop on by!

For the 3 photos of my car in this thread I probably spent 3+ hours making them. They're all made of many layers of the same shot with different polarizations. It really makes it look clean and removes reflections.

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Awesome car, guys. 8,100RPM!? What has been done for oiling?
Shimmed the Subaru pump.
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Old 03-25-2013, 08:27 PM   #73
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I wonder what this would make on pump gas on say 25psi

Ps. Awsm work
There was a 2011 STI on here with a rotated 6266 on pump gas and I think it made just over 500WHP.
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Well, that's not a good way to keep a secret
u know that juan wont know whats really going on
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