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Old 03-28-2013, 03:06 PM   #126
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Subaru no longer has the tough rally-inspired image they used to. Now the guys buying their performance cars are brotatos with flat bill caps. Would you want that image for your company?
As long as they're building cars like this, there will always be that image problem with brotatos and ricers. These kids whose parents buy them brand new WRX's and STi's will get them regardless if they bump up the price point by $10k.

The problem lies when repeat customers cannot purchase your product anymore because of its price point and goes elsewhere.

We'll just have to see what happens.
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Old 03-28-2013, 03:06 PM   #127
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I like the shopped hatch. Now we're talkin!
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Old 03-28-2013, 03:08 PM   #128
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Boy-racers can afford $25k cars?
No, ricer boys can't afford $25k cars, but they routinely finance $35k cars well beyond the 1/3 gross salary recommendation basically spending all their free income on car payments, gas and insurance.
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Old 03-28-2013, 03:09 PM   #129
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I think it looks a lot better than the current model, I would probably trade my '08 for one. My only complaint is the size, it's way too big. I already complain about my '08 being too big. I just hope they don't make even more soft and floppy than the current one is, and it seriously better have more power, especially for the sti. After a decade of the same old 300hp we are long overdue for an upgrade.
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Old 03-28-2013, 03:10 PM   #130
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My desperate hope is that the production version is announced concurrently with Subaru's commitment to reenter the WRC.
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Old 03-28-2013, 03:10 PM   #131
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Too low and wide for me. It doesn't have that plunky little rally car style.
My thoughts exactly
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Old 03-28-2013, 03:32 PM   #132
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No, ricer boys can't afford $25k cars, but they routinely finance $35k cars well beyond the 1/3 gross salary recommendation basically spending all their free income on car payments, gas and insurance.
wait...what?
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Old 03-28-2013, 03:39 PM   #133
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wait...what?
Apparently you need to make at least $105k a year to buy a STi.
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Old 03-28-2013, 03:42 PM   #134
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As long as they're building cars like this, there will always be that image problem with brotatos and ricers. These kids whose parents buy them brand new WRX's and STi's will get them regardless if they bump up the price point by $10k.

The problem lies when repeat customers cannot purchase your product anymore because of its price point and goes elsewhere.

We'll just have to see what happens.
I get your point. Like you said, we will just have to see what happens. This is not a production car, it's a concept with no interior, so it's hard to say what the price point will be.

The rumor though is that trim levels will be gone for the new WRX, with only one single model available. Does this mean no STI? .. Who knows, maybe they ditch the STI all together, and the WRX simply becomes the STI (ie. no more cheap version).

This would kind of make sense from a business standpoint for Subaru ... make the BRZ the cheaper performance car, with the WRX being the decked out turbocharged expensive one.
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Old 03-28-2013, 03:45 PM   #135
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^^^^ I think you nailed it bud.
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Old 03-28-2013, 04:34 PM   #136
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Interesting. I'm locked in to the '13 and usually keep my cars for quite along time so I really have no care for the'14-'15 cars but I'm still concerned about the direction Subaru takes on their future models.
I'm just going to wait see how much of this "new image" carries over into production. Its obvious though that Subaru wants to change its image and shed its past rally heritage.
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Old 03-28-2013, 04:38 PM   #137
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Interesting. I'm locked in to the '13 and usually keep my cars for quite along time so I really have no care for the'14-'15 cars but I'm still concerned about the direction Subaru takes on their future models.
I'm just going to wait see how much of this "new image" carries over into production. Its obvious though that Subaru wants to change its image and shed its past rally heritage.
Unless of course there does end up being a new STI, a gnarly, radical, 400hp rally-bred STI, and the WRX & STI end up diverging from each other.

Hopes & dreams, but that would be something... Subaru is clearly walking away from all of that though.
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Old 03-28-2013, 04:40 PM   #138
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I get your point. Like you said, we will just have to see what happens. This is not a production car, it's a concept with no interior, so it's hard to say what the price point will be.

The rumor though is that trim levels will be gone for the new WRX, with only one single model available. Does this mean no STI? .. Who knows, maybe they ditch the STI all together, and the WRX simply becomes the STI (ie. no more cheap version).

This would kind of make sense from a business standpoint for Subaru ... make the BRZ the cheaper performance car, with the WRX being the decked out turbocharged expensive one.
I think this is good guess because whats STi without WRC. and TBH how long have they been using the STi name as basicly just a tirm level. like its been said long gone are the plunky rally car roots.
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Old 03-28-2013, 04:46 PM   #139
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Old 03-28-2013, 04:48 PM   #140
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Old 03-28-2013, 04:55 PM   #141
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If it had the big wing ok the trunk it would be complete!!!
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Old 03-28-2013, 05:06 PM   #142
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Apparently you need to make at least $105k a year to buy a STi.
If you're talking brand new, it very well could be. That's the general rule of thumb; 1/3 of gross salary the target price for a car. That can fluctuate depending on someone's personal responsibilities and debt, but still and pretty solid guideline to live by.
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Old 03-28-2013, 05:25 PM   #143
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All things considered it really isn't a bad design . It looks sophisticated , fast , and expensive sitting still . I have a 2013 which I plan on keeping but I would definitely buy an awd car that looked like the wrx concept.
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Old 03-28-2013, 06:19 PM   #144
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Still mainly concerned about the power potential/reliability of the drivetrain. Forged internals, stout 6-speed, differentials etc.

I love the concept design looks---what about performance??
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Old 03-28-2013, 06:43 PM   #145
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Old 03-28-2013, 06:48 PM   #146
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If you're talking brand new, it very well could be. That's the general rule of thumb; 1/3 of gross salary the target price for a car. That can fluctuate depending on someone's personal responsibilities and debt, but still and pretty solid guideline to live by.
But that all depends, i live home and have no plans of moving out in the next few years so if i landed a job making more then 30k or more a year i would finance a new sti and pay it off easily.
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Old 03-28-2013, 06:56 PM   #147
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Old 03-28-2013, 07:02 PM   #148
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But that all depends, i live home and have no plans of moving out in the next few years so if i landed a job making more then 30k or more a year i would finance a new sti and pay it off easily.

that's why he said it depends and mentioned that its a good general rule of thumb for folks that have a combination of debt, mortgage, family, and personal responsibilities.

if you live at home then you're an exception to that. Friend's brother lives at home with a 45K job salary. he drives a GTR cuz he saved up enough for a good down pay and finance the rest.
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Old 03-28-2013, 07:06 PM   #149
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But that all depends, i live home and have no plans of moving out in the next few years so if i landed a job making more then 30k or more a year i would finance a new sti and pay it off easily.
As long as living at home isn't also your retirement plan :-)
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