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Old 03-27-2013, 01:28 PM   #1
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CLA 45 AMG highest hp 4 cylinder turbo engine in a production car

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To some, this new CLA 45 AMG could very well suffer from an existential crisis. Why? It's an AMG model... with a turbocharged, 2.0-litre four-cylinder petrol engine and four-wheel-drive. But, this is the future, so strap yourselves in and hope for the best. It's the halo version of Merc's new baby saloon, with underpinnings nabbed from an A-Class and a drivetrain that features the most powerful production turbocharged four-pot engine in the world - also shared with the A-Class, in this case the A 45 AMG.
Of course, AMG is now no stranger to turbocharging, gradually phasing out the old naturally aspirated, iron-fisted 6.2-litre V8 with a 5.5-litre twin-turbo V8 in the big cars. But with the CLA, they've gone little, and highly combustible. The CLA 45 AMG packs 354bhp, 331lb ft of torque and will accelerate from 0-62mph in just 4.6 seconds. Top speed is limited to 155mph.
It's still hand-built by a single AMG technician as per The Rules, and features a crankcase made from aluminium, forged pistons with ‘friction-optimised' piston rings, something called ‘nanoslide' cylinder wall tech, and of course, that twin-scroll turbocharger. We're told it allows a "spontaneous build-up of charge pressure"; hopefully not the "hey look, you're in a tree" kind of spontaneity.
There is some reassuringly-AMG news around the exhaust. A flap helps switch between cruising and bruising, and emits a - and these are AMG's own words - "fascinating, full engine sound that is particularly impressive during powerful acceleration".
The CLA 45 AMG packs a seven-speed dual-clutch automatic gearbox, with software pinched from the SLS AMG. You get a ‘race start' function (thumbs up), three driving programmes and a double-declutching option. The 4Matic system keeps the CLA AMG in front-wheel-drive mode during ‘normal' driving, but splits the power 50:50 when a swarm of bees descends upon your nether regions; a prop shaft transfers the 2.0-litre four-pot's power to the rear axle, via an electro-hydraulically controlled clutch. When slip is detected at the front, the clutch, erm, clutches and engages the rear axle.
There's been some AMG tweakery to the CLA's suspension too - stronger bearings on the front and back, together with specifically tuned spring and damper units, all sitting behind 18in light alloy wheels. There's even ‘Turbo AMG' lettering on the wing, lots of leather and brushed aluminium inside, a ‘racetimer' and an assortment of wallet-busting AMG options (better seats, new exhaust, stiffer suspension, painted calipers etc).
It'll hit the UK this autumn, with prices announced closer to the on sale date. For now, why not have a click through the pictures, and let us know what you think of the A 45 AMG's new sibling.
http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/m...amg-2013-03-27



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Old 03-27-2013, 01:53 PM   #2
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177 hp per liter stock?
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Old 03-27-2013, 02:09 PM   #3
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If you wouldn't buy a M-B because of electronic issues before.. now you have a solid reason to avoid one for mechanical reasons as well.
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Old 03-27-2013, 02:14 PM   #5
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Old 03-27-2013, 02:31 PM   #6
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I'm beginning to think that AMG > M. ~360HP out of 2L is just insane. And recent AMG products all have great chassis to go with the motor. I'd love me an E63 AMG.
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Old 03-27-2013, 02:35 PM   #7
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I'm beginning to think that AMG > M. ~360HP out of 2L is just insane. And recent AMG products all have great chassis to go with the motor. I'd love me an E63 AMG.
Psssh..

//M was making 1300hp 1.5L engines nearly 30 years ago.



not street legal, obviously.
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Old 03-27-2013, 03:17 PM   #8
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Great aesthetics and specs but yeah, I'd be terrified to rag on it for fear of the motor exploding at any given time.
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Old 03-27-2013, 03:50 PM   #9
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Great aesthetics and specs but yeah, I'd be terrified to rag on it for fear of the motor exploding at any given time.
I'm more confident on in-house engineering than tuned engines. This might be well designed. Also, the FQ-400 EVO had that more power out of a 2 liter and from the factory.
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Old 03-27-2013, 04:01 PM   #10
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That rear seat's going to be the most useless thing evAr. Cute CF trim in the interior, though.

(As far as the engine, I agree with Beaverboy's original comment.)
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Curb weight?!

2 door coupe or 3 door hatch please.
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Psssh..

//M was making 1300hp 1.5L engines nearly 30 years ago.

not street legal, obviously.
Well, the catch there is not so much that it wasn't street legal, but that it was 30 years ago. We'll see how the new M3/4 comes out, but I have been quite underwhelmed by the direction they took with the M5. When just about everyone thinks the E63 is much harder edged than the M5, there is something wrong with the picture.
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Old 03-27-2013, 04:27 PM   #13
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177 hp per liter stock?
almost exactly the same as a gt2rs by coincidence.
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Old 03-27-2013, 06:42 PM   #14
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I'm more confident on in-house engineering than tuned engines. This might be well designed. Also, the FQ-400 EVO had that more power out of a 2 liter and from the factory.
Well, not from the factory. They rolled off the production line as regular Evos, and the UK importer then dropped them off at UK tuners and sold them with a warranty.
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It looks good.
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... so much pointless hate; this car has a factory*forged* bottom end.

/win
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I like it alot,I have been wanting to get into luxury brand and was looking at the MB C300 4Matic and now that this is being offered sounds good to me
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If you wouldn't buy a M-B because of electronic issues before.. now you have a solid reason to avoid one for mechanical reasons as well.
Haha.
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360hp out of a 2.0liter. Damn! Im guessing for that type of power, the engine comes stock with forge piston,ect... Not Cast piston.
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... so much pointless hate; this car has a factory*forged* bottom end.

/win
So does my Datsun 240Z

WHat is your point.
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I guess the Mitsubishi Evo FQ series don't count as "production cars".

Unless they mean "currently in production"?
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I guess the Mitsubishi Evo FQ series don't count as "production cars".

Unless they mean "currently in production"?
The FQ's were not really production, as they were sent out to tunning houses for modifications.
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I guess the Mitsubishi Evo FQ series don't count as "production cars".

Unless they mean "currently in production"?
It's like a Callaway corvette you can buy from the dealer then gets shipped to Callaway for modification.
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Never really been a fan of MB, but I think this car and engine are pretty darn awesome. I love the looks and all the power squeezed out of a 2.0L turbo from the factory. If this was in my price range, I would definitely be giving this a serious look/test drive.
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So does my Datsun 240Z

WHat is your point.
First, no one cares about a Datsun 240z.

Just kidding.

The point was that I'm a little thunderstruck by the fanboi hatred, for this car, when it represents a lot of what this community wants.

The Subaru enthusiast community wants a well built (reliable), solid power outputing awd platform; the CLA 45AMG is that and much more.

The difference is that Mercedes has the ability to tap in to this market, and charge a higher premium (brand).

In this case, you're getting what you pay for; many feel that this hasn't been the case for our community, for quite a while.
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