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Old 04-08-2011, 01:14 PM   #1
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Default Anyone familiar with Brats?

Thinking of buying one that has a trans problem, just wondering if parts are readily available and the thing is easy to work on.
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Old 04-08-2011, 01:25 PM   #2
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I dont really know how much would be avilable anymore. I wrecked my '79 brat in 1987. flipped 6 times it was very bad, but everyone lived.

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Old 04-08-2011, 01:41 PM   #3
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Yeah that's my fear that there's not much available. This particular one is a mid 80s version. It grinds going into 1st and reverse. All other gears are fine.
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Old 04-08-2011, 02:45 PM   #4
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I know someone with a trans out of an RX (transfer case and all that jazz) but doubt konklr will want to come off of it
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Old 04-08-2011, 04:30 PM   #5
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1. buy broken brat
2. build brumby
3. ????
4. profit
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Old 04-08-2011, 04:59 PM   #6
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EZ Pull in New Ringgold PA that still has parts for 80's Subarus all the time. Cheap too. They are easy to work on if it's not a rust bucket. If it's rusty pass on it. Snapping every bolt you turn and patching rusty framerails is no fun. Best advice I can give you is throw the factory hitachi carb and all the emissions crap in the trash and buy a weber card conversion kit so it actually runs right.
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Old 04-08-2011, 06:50 PM   #7
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1. buy broken brat
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Old 04-08-2011, 08:39 PM   #8
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Half a dozen
Add beer...
Add sauerkraut...
Onions....
Mustard.

Great brats.....
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Old 04-08-2011, 08:47 PM   #9
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how did i know that was coming...just waiting for the kids joke then this thread will be done
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Old 04-08-2011, 11:20 PM   #10
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i am familiar with brats. parts can be found. pretty easy to work with if you can rebuild carburetors and figure out the whacky vacuum systems. you just need to be creative sometimes.

and then there is the rust issue, depending on how much of a gem you got.

i hope to have one again someday. a gen1 brat with those awesome dual round headlights. if i could find one with a good body in my budget, i would do a motor swap though, from a more modern NA motor.
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Old 04-08-2011, 11:22 PM   #11
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yeah, it may be a learning experience as I am clueless about carburetors. But if it does run okay I may snag it for cheap.

The 1st gens dont seem to be so common, mostly see 85-87s come up for sale every now and again.
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Old 04-08-2011, 11:23 PM   #12
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^ ^ lucky !!!!
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Old 04-08-2011, 11:27 PM   #13
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lol, ive been telling my wife i need a truck to haul stuff with...but with gas prices and all this may be just the compromise i need...plus the insurance and historic registration will be cheap enough to keep it around for a future resto-swap
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Old 04-09-2011, 12:47 PM   #14
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booyah!!!


The brats love the BRAT
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Old 04-09-2011, 12:59 PM   #15
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if your transmission is going, I'd think it would be much better and possibly cheaper to swap in a newer 5 or 6 speed and the drivetrain. It'd be an involved swap, but well worth it most likely. Just take it off of some wrx owner going sti swap.
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Old 04-09-2011, 01:16 PM   #16
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Idk if it will work. Then trans on this thing is uber tiny
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Old 04-09-2011, 01:21 PM   #17
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So jealous!
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Old 04-09-2011, 02:55 PM   #18
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I had a 1986 Brat until a few years ago. I've also had three of the 80-86 EA81 powered cars. They are a snap to work on and if I could guess, yours is either popping out of third or severely grinding going in to gear?

I'm guessing that its at least a 1984 model based on the grill. that's a good thing since they made the final drive ratio much more high way friendly. I used to get an easy 30mpg in mine. Weber also makes a nice dual carburetor setup too.
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Old 04-09-2011, 03:19 PM   #19
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I had a 1986 Brat until a few years ago. I've also had three of the 80-86 EA81 powered cars. They are a snap to work on and if I could guess, yours is either popping out of third or severely grinding going in to gear?

I'm guessing that its at least a 1984 model based on the grill. that's a good thing since they made the final drive ratio much more high way friendly. I used to get an easy 30mpg in mine. Weber also makes a nice dual carburetor setup too.
yep, its an 86. It almost will not go into 1st ever. grinds going into 2nd and 3rd. Grinds Real bad into reverse. 4th is decent. also it tends to creep in gear with the clutch fully depressed. The clutch cable is adjusted all the way in already. Takes a lot of work to get it to shift but I can manage till I fix it.

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congrats on the sweet find.

sounds more like a clutch issue than trans. my toyota truck was doing that and i have to find a new clutch pedal assembly.
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Old 04-11-2011, 07:07 AM   #21
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Yeah it felt like a clutch issue to me as well. I added some washers behind the cable adjuster as a temp fix(it shifts great now) and I went ahead and ordered a new clutch cable...whopping $9, lol.
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Old 04-11-2011, 08:48 AM   #22
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The spare is in the engine compartment? ive never seen that before. neat. All the brats i found with a quick search are lifted.
saw this though

its a toy car but looks good if it was real =)
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Old 04-11-2011, 07:24 PM   #23
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You may not want to replace the cable until you replace the clutch. It took two cables to fray and snap within 4 months to realize that my clutch was gone. My '81 4WD with dual range transmission was the same way. Once the clutch was replaced, it was very smooth. See if you can find Subaru gear oil too, it will help.
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Old 04-11-2011, 07:25 PM   #24
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Not sure if you've been here: http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/ but there is a lot of helpful information. The old school forum here on Nasioc isn't too bad either, though USMB gets way more traffic.
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Old 04-11-2011, 08:26 PM   #25
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You may not want to replace the cable until you replace the clutch. It took two cables to fray and snap within 4 months to realize that my clutch was gone. My '81 4WD with dual range transmission was the same way. Once the clutch was replaced, it was very smooth. See if you can find Subaru gear oil too, it will help.
Previous owner Just replaced the clutch. I think he forgot to adjust the cable and assumed something was wrong with the trans...
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