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Old 01-16-2015, 11:49 PM   #1
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This may be in the wrong place,so, mods please move it if necessary. I have a gen2 outback that's in need of new head gaskets. I've called a few places near Annapolis and they all want north of $1400 for the job.

If someone here can recommend a place or someone that can do the job at a more reasonable cost please pm me.


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Old 01-20-2015, 04:21 PM   #2
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That sounds about right :/ http://www.exlineauto.com/ is who did mine and I was happy with them.
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Old 01-20-2015, 04:38 PM   #3
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Not sure where you are or how far you are willing to travel... Mach V motorsports is in VA, you could give them a call or perhaps email for a quote.
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Old 01-20-2015, 10:37 PM   #4
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Thanks guys. I feel that it's not an overly complicated job once you pull the engine out.


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Old 01-20-2015, 11:24 PM   #5
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Thanks guys. I feel that it's not an overly complicated job once you pull the engine out.
Maybe you should do it, then?

Sorry, that was kind of a douchey thing to say, but really, the point is that it's a fairly involved job. First of all, you have to pull the engine, and then there's a bunch of stuff you have to take off the front, and then the heads need to be partially disassembled in order to remove them, and then you have to prep the surfaces, and then you have to put it all back together.

I know my way around Subarus (four engine pulls and one partial rebuild previously), and I'd say it was still a 10-15 hour job when I did headgaskets on my uncle's 99 Outback. That's in addition to $300-400 in parts (headgaskets, valvecover gaskets, main seals, cam seals, head bolts, probably some other stuff too).

What I'm saying is, when you factor in the labor costs and the parts cost, $1400 is not unreasonable. The only ways to not spend $1400ish are to DIY, or to sell the car to someone who can.
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Old 01-20-2015, 11:39 PM   #6
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Maybe you should do it, then?



Sorry, that was kind of a douchey thing to say, but really, the point is that it's a fairly involved job. First of all, you have to pull the engine, and then there's a bunch of stuff you have to take off the front, and then the heads need to be partially disassembled in order to remove them, and then you have to prep the surfaces, and then you have to put it all back together.



I know my way around Subarus (four engine pulls and one partial rebuild previously), and I'd say it was still a 10-15 hour job when I did headgaskets on my uncle's 99 Outback. That's in addition to $300-400 in parts (headgaskets, valvecover gaskets, main seals, cam seals, head bolts, probably some other stuff too).



What I'm saying is, when you factor in the labor costs and the parts cost, $1400 is not unreasonable. The only ways to not spend $1400ish are to DIY, or to sell the car to someone who can.

Meh. lol.

I'd diy it but I don't have a garage or the time. It's not a simple job but I'm not a mechanic either. I guess what I'm looking for is someone to keep the car for say 2-3 weeks and work on it when they have time. As for parts felpro (http://m.summitracing.com/parts/fel-...aQodf3IACg)has an MLS gasket kit for about $100. As for the heads Id just want them resurfaced.


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Old 01-21-2015, 10:37 AM   #7
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Keep in mind that there are other parts you will probably need besides the HGs. The head bolts are torque-to-yield and should not be re-used, and new ones aren't cheap. If you've got the engine out, it would be a mistake not to do the rear main seal. Valvecover gaskets are probably dead, unless you did them recently. And when's the last time you did a timing belt/waterpump job? You have to take the timing belt off to do this job anyway, so if that's coming up, now is the time.

If you can find someone who's willing to do the labor for next to nothing, more power to you. Personally, I would charge $40+ an hour, and there's no room in my garage or my project list anyway. And there is still the matter of parts. My guess is even if you shopped around for the best deals on parts and found someone cheap for the labor, you'd still be looking at $600+.
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Old 01-21-2015, 11:35 AM   #8
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If you were able to pull the engine out yourself (cost of an engine hoist rental + beer for buddies), and reinstall after the work was done, you'd be able to save some cash.

No one will work for free, and I don't recall free mechanic labor being included in the state of the union address so don't get your hopes up...
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Old 01-21-2015, 12:47 PM   #9
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Keep in mind that there are other parts you will probably need besides the HGs. The head bolts are torque-to-yield and should not be re-used, and new ones aren't cheap. If you've got the engine out, it would be a mistake not to do the rear main seal. Valvecover gaskets are probably dead, unless you did them recently. And when's the last time you did a timing belt/waterpump job? You have to take the timing belt off to do this job anyway, so if that's coming up, now is the time.



If you can find someone who's willing to do the labor for next to nothing, more power to you. Personally, I would charge $40+ an hour, and there's no room in my garage or my project list anyway. And there is still the matter of parts. My guess is even if you shopped around for the best deals on parts and found someone cheap for the labor, you'd still be looking at $600+.

$600 would be too good to be true. But
Bolts / head gasket kit $200
Resurface $60 (yes called a few places)
$labor $500

So $700ish hopefully?

Timing belt / water pump are done. So is the radiator and thermostat and hoses. My apologies for phone punctuation and grammar.


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Old 01-21-2015, 12:49 PM   #10
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If you were able to pull the engine out yourself (cost of an engine hoist rental + beer for buddies), and reinstall after the work was done, you'd be able to save some cash.



No one will work for free, and I don't recall free mechanic labor being included in the state of the union address so don't get your hopes up...

Lol. Ok.


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Old 01-21-2015, 01:50 PM   #11
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If you were in my area I could hook you up with a headgasket job that wouldn't take more than an afternoon. And wouldn't be very expensive (parts and labor). The headbolts are re-useable as well as the valve cover gaskets (provided they aren't leaking). A subaru engine can be removed easily in an hour.

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Old 01-21-2015, 02:14 PM   #12
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Thanks guys. I feel that it's not an overly complicated job once you pull the engine out.
It's not necessarily complex, but you're paying for time.
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Old 01-21-2015, 02:38 PM   #13
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If you were in my area I could hook you up with a headgasket job that wouldn't take more than an afternoon. And wouldn't be very expensive (parts and labor). The headbolts are re-useable as well as the valve cover gaskets (provided they aren't leaking). A subaru engine can be removed easily in an hour.

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What area are you in?


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Old 01-22-2015, 11:28 AM   #14
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Looks like the Cumberland area. Basically, western MD right where MD is at its narrowest North-South.
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Old 01-23-2015, 12:22 AM   #15
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Does anyone have contact info for user rileyd?


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