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Old 03-29-2013, 02:26 PM   #1
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Default Blown Engine in 99 Outback...

So my engine blew after 205k miles and I just have it sitting in our cul de sac....

Um I have no clue what to do with the car. The body is in mostly good condition (a few dings, scratches, and one small rust patch which I don't feel like doing anything about since I don't know if I should even keep the car).

Should I pull the engine and tear it apart and try and fix it?

Or someone suggested I should get an EJ205 and put it in, though I doubt it would be that simple.

So anyone have any suggestions
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Old 03-29-2013, 02:57 PM   #2
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Depending on the amount of damage you could either rebuild or swap in another motor. It all depends on the money you have. Would be best to just pay a shop if you dont know what your doing.
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Old 03-29-2013, 03:07 PM   #3
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Two separate shops estimated it would be upwards of $3500 to fix it and I mean we bought it for like $4000 and I got myself a new car already so it is just sitting till the summer when I will have time to play around with it.

I have seen some wrx engines going for about $1000... Do you have any clue how difficult it would be to swap it?
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Old 03-29-2013, 03:08 PM   #4
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i have a spare EJ25D shortblock sitting in my shop that I'd sell, or you wanna get it up here i could do the work for you
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Old 03-30-2013, 01:44 AM   #5
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Thanks for the offer but since I don't need it in a hurry I'd rather try and fix the original engine and if that fails I may try and swap I guess
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Old 03-30-2013, 08:38 AM   #6
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If you've pulled an engine out of any car before it's about average difficulty with the Subaru 4. You will need a cherry picker or a chain hoist to pull engine from above. If you decide to pull apart the engine I strongly suggest you get a Subaru factory shop manual for your model and study it before diving in.
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Old 03-30-2013, 10:16 AM   #7
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Swapping in a wrx engine is a lot of and expense. You would need the engine, wiring harness to merge with your existing harness requiring you to tear your dash apart, wrx ecu, first gen turbo leggy crossmember for the up pipe to clear, and a new exhaust at the very least. The stock tranny is good for modest power. It would also be smart to upgrade your brakes, suspension, sway bars etc.

The easiest route is to buy a wrx and swap everything over.

What exactly is wrong with your engine? Head gaskets, valves trashed, spun bearings?

Simplest thing for you is to swap in a replacement engine if there is internal engine damage. If its just a head gasket then go for it. It's not too bad and you learn a lot.
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Old 03-30-2013, 05:15 PM   #8
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Blown engine is kind of vague, there are many ways an engine can fail. Can you describe what the car was doing before you decided to park it? Was it making god awful noises, overheating, caught on fire....


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Old 03-31-2013, 09:42 PM   #9
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i have a spare EJ25D shortblock sitting in my shop that I'd sell, or you wanna get it up here i could do the work for you
What shape is it in and how much? Does it have the thrust in the #3 position?
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Old 04-01-2013, 09:54 AM   #10
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A week before it failed I was driving and the whole engine cut out for no apparent reason but there were no CELs and the engine restarted fine so after a while I just thought I must have bumped the key out of the on position. Once I got home I checked all the vital fluids, belts, etc and they all seemed fine so we just ignored it.

Fast forward a week and I was driving to my friends house and I parked it outside, went up to get him, we went back to the car and it wouldn't start.

The next day with my dad there it finally start but it sounded awful like something was broken inside.

I'll get a video later today so you can hear it
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Old 04-01-2013, 04:37 PM   #11
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So here is a small recording of the car running

I am not able to keep it running for much longer then that


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Old 04-02-2013, 12:37 PM   #12
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Anyone recognize that sound?
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Old 04-02-2013, 12:40 PM   #13
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sounds like your bearings are toast
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Old 04-02-2013, 01:29 PM   #14
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Then that wouldn't be to difficult of a fix right? Providing that nothing else was damaged?
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Old 04-02-2013, 01:42 PM   #15
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Then that wouldn't be to difficult of a fix right? Providing that nothing else was damaged?
When you say "wouldn't be too difficult," what's your level of technical expertise? Have you done an engine tear-down before?
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Old 04-02-2013, 02:49 PM   #16
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My father has and I assisted my friend with rebuilding his engine but for solo work I don't have that much experience.

Would I be able to do it with shop guides plus friends and families help?
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Old 04-02-2013, 11:05 PM   #17
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You certainly can do it with the factory manual and friends. It involves splitting the block to get to the bearings. You'll probably need to turn the crank .010" and get oversized bearings.
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Old 04-02-2013, 11:48 PM   #18
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Disassembling the engine and splitting the block is cake and a lot of fun. At that point my experience and tools on hand send me to the pros at the machine shop. I don't have the means to determine the correct size of replacement bearings, if the cylinders are within tolerances or out of round, if the replacement piston rings are gapped correctly, and most importantly if the block and internals are worth saving.

I'm not saying that you are not capable of learning these skills and/or purchasing the tools necessary to do a proper job. But I will state that paying a reputable shop that is very experienced with subaru motors is the best bet to end up with a reliable short block and may save a lot of your hard earned dollars and give you some peace of mind.
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Old 04-03-2013, 10:49 AM   #19
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Alright thanks if I check the local forum they should have a reputable shop near me right?
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