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Old 04-09-2013, 07:00 PM   #26
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If you keep it stock and only upgrade your pistons, oil pickup & oil pan, and refresh your valves, and do ALL the labor yourself, you could do it for under $5k like I said above. If you start nickle and diming things like getting TGV deletes, CAI, AOS, EBCS/MBC, EWG, upgraded exhaust, etc etc then you will very quickly be racking up a large bill.

1. I spent $2,450 on my short block. This is what was included: STi short block, new OEM STi nitrided crank, CP forged pistons (99.5mm, 8.2:1 CR), King bearings, reconditioned STi rods, ARP rod bolts. The cylinders were honed with torque plates. If a machine shop says they don't use torque plates walk out immediately. You could buy a stock OEM block for $1,900 new and save $550. Considering how weak our pistons are, it's not worth it to skimp here in my opinion, but you may see it different.

2. For heads, I spent $900 but it included valves refreshed PLUS bowl blend, gasket matched to intake and exhaust. You DO NOT NEED to get a bowl blend or gasket match. That added $400 to my bill. I'd say $400 if all you get is a 3 angle valve job and you don't need to buy new valves or have your buckets sized/shimmed/replaced.

3. Killer B oil pickup. $150 Buy it. It's worth the investment. 100%

4. 06/07 STi oil pan - $105 - I don't know if the Killer B pickup will work with your oil pan. It would not work on my 2004 FXT oil pan b/c my car was born early 2004 and used a carryover oil pan from MY 2003. Double check with Chris at Killer B.

5. Oil cooler. Gonna cost you about $220 - $275 depending on where you go. This is a 100% no question purchase.

6. Engine Gasket Kit $275

7. Timing belt kit & water pump $330 - don't reuse your old stuff, although I suppose you could but it's a bad idea. Especially if you go with a fresh engine.

8. 11mm STi oil pump - $150 - not required but it's a wear item so why take the chance?

BTW a lot of my prices are quoted from Flatironstuning.com

Total: $4,080 -- this does not count fluids. Add another $200 for oil, filters, radiator fluid, kitty litter, rubber gloves, beer to bribe friends to help you pull the engine, etc. This total assumes $2,450 on engine, a $400 head job, Killer B oil pickup, STi oil pan, Oil cooler, Engine Gasket kit, Gates kevlar timing belt, OEM water pump & idlers/tensioner kit, and oil pump.

You can see how this can spiral out of control pretty quick. Cheapest method is to buy a running long block and swap it with yours. Should probably be able to get one for about $1,500. Check the classifieds. Then you can sell your old engine (assuming you don't blow it up by keep running it!) for a few hundred bucks to offset the cost.

Good luck!
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Old 04-27-2013, 08:09 PM   #27
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If you keep it stock and only upgrade your pistons, oil pickup & oil pan, and refresh your valves, and do ALL the labor yourself, you could do it for under $5k like I said above. If you start nickle and diming things like getting TGV deletes, CAI, AOS, EBCS/MBC, EWG, upgraded exhaust, etc etc then you will very quickly be racking up a large bill.

1. I spent $2,450 on my short block. This is what was included: STi short block, new OEM STi nitrided crank, CP forged pistons (99.5mm, 8.2:1 CR), King bearings, reconditioned STi rods, ARP rod bolts. The cylinders were honed with torque plates. If a machine shop says they don't use torque plates walk out immediately. You could buy a stock OEM block for $1,900 new and save $550. Considering how weak our pistons are, it's not worth it to skimp here in my opinion, but you may see it different.

2. For heads, I spent $900 but it included valves refreshed PLUS bowl blend, gasket matched to intake and exhaust. You DO NOT NEED to get a bowl blend or gasket match. That added $400 to my bill. I'd say $400 if all you get is a 3 angle valve job and you don't need to buy new valves or have your buckets sized/shimmed/replaced.

3. Killer B oil pickup. $150 Buy it. It's worth the investment. 100%

4. 06/07 STi oil pan - $105 - I don't know if the Killer B pickup will work with your oil pan. It would not work on my 2004 FXT oil pan b/c my car was born early 2004 and used a carryover oil pan from MY 2003. Double check with Chris at Killer B.

5. Oil cooler. Gonna cost you about $220 - $275 depending on where you go. This is a 100% no question purchase.

6. Engine Gasket Kit $275

7. Timing belt kit & water pump $330 - don't reuse your old stuff, although I suppose you could but it's a bad idea. Especially if you go with a fresh engine.

8. 11mm STi oil pump - $150 - not required but it's a wear item so why take the chance?

BTW a lot of my prices are quoted from Flatironstuning.com

Total: $4,080 -- this does not count fluids. Add another $200 for oil, filters, radiator fluid, kitty litter, rubber gloves, beer to bribe friends to help you pull the engine, etc. This total assumes $2,450 on engine, a $400 head job, Killer B oil pickup, STi oil pan, Oil cooler, Engine Gasket kit, Gates kevlar timing belt, OEM water pump & idlers/tensioner kit, and oil pump.

You can see how this can spiral out of control pretty quick. Cheapest method is to buy a running long block and swap it with yours. Should probably be able to get one for about $1,500. Check the classifieds. Then you can sell your old engine (assuming you don't blow it up by keep running it!) for a few hundred bucks to offset the cost.

Good luck!
Does an STI short block come with a new OEM STi nitrided crank, CP forged pistons (99.5mm, 8.2:1 CR), King bearings, reconditioned STi rods, ARP rod bolts??? And is it recommended to the heads worked on for a hybrid build? I'm bout to build a 2.5 hybrid so I need to know as much as possible to get it done right.
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Old 04-28-2013, 04:10 PM   #28
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Does an STI short block come with a new OEM STi nitrided crank, CP forged pistons (99.5mm, 8.2:1 CR), King bearings, reconditioned STi rods, ARP rod bolts??? And is it recommended to the heads worked on for a hybrid build? I'm bout to build a 2.5 hybrid so I need to know as much as possible to get it done right.
A new short block will not come with any of the above except for the crank. If you are using 2.0 WRX heads you need to do some research. A good place to start reading is the stickies. And you need to go to the build motor forum.
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Old 04-28-2013, 05:36 PM   #29
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Sounds like a ringland to me.

I did my rebuild for about a grand.

OEM gasket set 220
supertech forged pistons with rings 420
arp rod bolts 85
moroso pickup 85
ACL Bearing set 110
Fluids $60 or so.

I already had tgv deletes, turbo, inlet, basically all the bolt ons. I did no damage to my cylinder walls and they were measured within spec so no machine work was needed. Just had my timing belt done recently so that was reused. Just be smart about it. Make sure you have a copy of a repair manual too with all torque specs, service limits, procedures etc. Check for forum, eBay, Amazon, and some vendors on here for prices. I saved a ton by shopping around!
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Old 04-28-2013, 07:47 PM   #30
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8. 11mm STi oil pump /QUOTE

All the crap from the old motor oil is still in the old pump so i have been told, i know some people clean the old pumps i wouldnt from a old motor.
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Old 04-28-2013, 08:12 PM   #31
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checking in for the OP ( i know the guy), like scotty said

ITS BLOWN UP

Compression on #2 was 65 psi

Being rebuilt as we speak
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Old 04-29-2013, 09:31 AM   #32
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My compression on #4 was 80psi. Simply had a light miss a idle. Ran great while moving. About 50% of my 1st and 2nd ringlands were totally unattached.
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