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Old 04-10-2013, 01:48 AM   #1
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Event: road dyno pull
Location: Chicago IL
Ambient Temp: 55
Elevation: ~700
Weather: dry evening
Track and Conditions: ----
Tires: brand, model, size Goodyear Eagle GT 225/40/18

Car: 2002 WRX
Tuner: Unknown
Dyno Info: Virtual Dyno Dynojet setting
Transmission: Stock 5 spd
Gear: 3rd
Peak HP at RPM: 382 @6112rpm not SAE corrected
Peak Torque at RPM: 382 @4360 not SAE corrected
Baseline hp/tq for a stock on same dyno: ~230?
Target Boost: 19.5 psi
Target AFR: rich ~10.6, needs work
Fuel: 93 oct


Engine/Power Modifications:
Stock 2.5 block
Stock 2.0 heads with chambers matched
Slightly higher compression than stock STI
TurboXS big topmount
no-name TD05 18g/TD06H ported
1000cc Five-O EV14's
TGV deletes
aftermarket catless uppipe
TurboXS 3" exhaust(DP catted)
lightweight crank and alternator pulleys

Driveline Modifications:
ACT HD plate and disc
ACT Streetlight flywheel 13lbs
Group N engine mounts
Perrin 23mm rear swaybar with Vivid CNC endlinks
Stock struts /Cobb lowering springs

Other Modifications: ----





Bought the car with a spun bearing with the
turbo installed already and car tuned by unknown tuner.Tune looks very good with no knock and nice smooth
torque delivery so save the 5 spd trans. Timing to my knowledge is also pretty conservative.

TD05 18g compressor wheel with TD06H turbine wheel in 7cm ported hot side housing. Airboy is 352/346. Comments?
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Old 04-10-2013, 09:34 AM   #2
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Unknown tuner is kinda scary to me, post a log?
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Old 04-10-2013, 01:46 PM   #3
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Unknown tuner is kinda scary to me, post a log?
Of course I went trough the map before driving the car and made sure everything is good

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time	Load   RPM     FBK      IAM    Timing   IDC%	PSI   MAF(g/s)  Throttle							
32:16.1	1.38	2613	0	16	20	13.94	0.73	60.96	100
32:16.1	1.4	2613	0	16	20	14.35	0.73	62.92	100
32:16.2	1.43	2691	0	16	20	14.35	0.87	65.63	100
32:16.2	1.45	2710	0	16	20	15.03	1.16	65.63	100
32:16.3	1.47	2724	0	16	20	15.11	1.45	67.47	100
32:16.3	1.51	2760	0	16	19.5	15.9	1.6	70.91	100
32:16.4	1.54	2760	0	16	19.5	16.6	1.6	72.49	100
32:16.5	1.57	2780	0	16	19	16.6	1.89	75.17	100
32:16.5	1.6	2804	0	16	19	17.34	2.18	75.17	100
32:16.6	1.63	2833	0	16	18	17.53	2.47	77.02	100
32:16.6	1.66	2828	0	16	17.5	18.1	2.76	79.39	100
32:16.7	1.69	2828	0	16	17	19	2.76	82.27	100
32:16.7	1.73	2872	0	16	16.5	19	3.05	85.77	100
32:16.8	1.78	2891	0	16	16.5	19.74	3.48	85.77	100
32:16.8	1.8	2935	0	16	16	20.66	3.92	89.49	100
32:16.9	1.82	2984	0	16	15.5	21.65	4.21	91.85	100
32:16.9	1.87	2984	0	16	15.5	22.13	4.21	94.13	100
32:17.0	1.9	2964	0	16	14.5	22.13	4.79	97.2	100
32:17.0	1.94	3016	0	16	14.5	23.16	5.08	97.2	100
32:17.1	1.99	3070	0	16	14.5	24.23	5.66	102.53	100
32:17.1	2.02	3075	0	16	14	25.58	6.09	105.42	100
32:17.2	2.06	3075	0	16	13.5	26.68	6.09	109.35	100
32:17.2	2.13	3126	0	16	13	26.68	6.67	113.93	100
32:17.3	2.17	3147	0	16	13	27.53	7.4	113.93	100
32:17.3	2.22	3200	0	16	13	29.35	7.98	118.64	100
32:17.4	2.28	3220	0	16	12	30.91	8.56	124.8	100
32:17.4	2.34	3220	0	16	11.5	31.76	8.56	129.43	100
32:17.5	2.4	3237	0	16	11.5	31.76	9.29	135.1	100
32:17.6	2.49	3323	0	16	11.5	34.02	10.16	135.1	100
32:17.6	2.56	3336	0	16	11	35.58	11.17	142.64	100
32:17.7	2.63	3394	0	16	10.5	37.65	12.04	148.91	100
32:17.7	2.71	3429	0	16	10.5	40.24	12.91	161.08	100
32:17.8	2.82	3429	0	16	10	40.24	12.91	169.98	100
32:17.8	2.91	3470	0	16	10	42.2	13.78	169.98	100
32:17.9	3	3531	0	16	9.5	45.2	15.38	179.86	100
32:17.9	3.08	3580	0	16	9	46.58	16.4	186.22	100
32:18.0	3.18	3575	0	16	8	48.81	17.41	197.1	100
32:18.0	3.24	3575	0	16	7.5	48.81	17.41	205.11	100
32:18.1	3.31	3674	0	16	7.5	50.95	18.28	205.11	100
32:18.1	3.33	3704	0	16	7.5	52.15	18.86	210.35	100
32:18.2	3.31	3788	0	16	7.5	53.33	19.44	211.18	100
32:18.2	3.31	3788	0	16	7.5	54.12	19.44	216.36	100
32:18.3	3.31	3844	0	16	7.5	54.12	19.44	215.55	100
32:18.3	3.3	3844	0	16	7.5	54.12	19.59	215.55	100
32:18.4	3.28	3951	0	16	8	54.79	19.44	218.62	100
32:18.4	3.24	4010	0	16	8	55.61	19.3	216	100
32:18.5	3.22	4010	0	16	8	55.52	19.3	215.55	100
32:18.5	3.18	4004	0	16	8.5	55.52	19.01	217.71	100
32:18.6	3.17	4125	0	16	8.5	55.44	18.57	217.71	100
32:18.7	3.14	4092	0	16	8.5	55.86	18.43	216.81	100
32:18.7	3.09	4254	0	16	9	55.36	17.99	217.26	100
32:18.8	3.09	4223	0	16	9.5	55.85	17.85	221.34	100
32:18.8	3.07	4223	0	16	9.5	55.85	17.85	221.34	100
32:18.9	3.07	4325	0	16	9.5	56.28	17.56	221.34	100
32:18.9	3.05	4394	0	16	10	58.11	17.41	224.97	100
32:19.0	3.01	4435	0	16	10	56.77	17.27	221.8	100
32:19.0	3.02	4435	0	16	10.5	58.55	17.27	227.23	100
32:19.1	3.01	4499	0	16	10.5	58.55	16.83	227.23	100
32:19.1	2.99	4515	0	16	10.5	57.79	16.83	226.78	100
32:19.2	2.98	4568	0	16	10.5	58.46	16.69	229.05	100
32:19.2	2.98	4568	0	16	10.5	58.3	16.69	229.05	100
32:19.3	2.95	4632	0	16	10.5	58.3	16.54	229.05	100
32:19.3	2.96	4699	0	16	11	58.14	16.54	230.89	100
32:19.4	2.93	4738	0	16	11	58.62	16.4	230.89	100
32:19.4	2.93	4738	0	16	11.5	59.33	16.4	236.56	100
32:19.5	2.93	4795	0	16	11.5	59.33	16.25	236.56	100
32:19.5	2.92	4817	0	16	11.5	59.6	16.11	236.08	100
32:19.6	2.92	4931	0	16	11.5	59.96	15.96	235.6	100
32:19.6	2.91	4931	0	16	11.5	61.01	15.96	242.34	100
32:19.7	2.91	4931	0	16	11.5	61.01	15.96	242.34	100
32:19.8	2.91	5023	0	16	11.5	62.15	15.82	242.34	100
32:19.8	2.9	5023	0	16	12	62.74	15.82	246.68	100
32:19.9	2.9	5071	0	16	12	62.74	15.67	246.68	100
32:19.9	2.89	5119	0	16	12.5	63.34	15.53	249.04	100
32:20.0	2.91	5176	0	16	12.5	64.04	15.38	250.59	100
32:20.0	2.93	5176	0	16	12.5	64.04	15.38	250.59	100
32:20.1	2.93	5274	0	16	12.5	65.26	15.24	254.71	100
32:20.1	2.92	5274	0	16	12.5	65.26	15.24	257.07	100
32:20.2	2.94	5312	0	16	12.5	65.72	15.24	257.07	100
32:20.2	2.95	5384	0	16	12.5	66.61	15.09	260.01	100
32:20.3	2.95	5384	0	16	12.5	66.61	15.09	260.01	100
32:20.3	2.94	5396	0	16	13	67.91	15.24	265.31	100
32:20.4	2.93	5396	0	16	13	67.91	15.24	265.31	100
32:20.4	2.95	5478	0	16	13	67.78	15.24	269.38	100
32:20.5	2.92	5478	0	16	13	67.78	15.24	269.38	100
32:20.6	2.9	5555	0	16	13	68.74	15.38	270.83	100
32:20.6	2.91	5555	0	16	13.5	68.74	15.38	271.19	100
32:20.6	2.91	5643	0	16	13.5	69.82	15.53	271.19	100
32:20.7	2.92	5643	0	16	13.5	69.82	15.53	275.73	100
32:20.8	2.89	5729	0	16	13.5	70.89	15.38	275.73	100
32:20.8	2.9	5729	0	16	13.5	71.11	15.38	277.81	100
32:20.9	2.87	5747	0	16	13.5	71.11	15.53	277.81	100
32:20.9	2.87	5747	0	16	14	70.7	15.53	277.12	100
32:21.0	2.85	5814	0	16	14	70.7	15.38	277.12	100
32:21.0	2.85	5814	0	16	14	71.58	15.38	281.97	100
32:21.1	2.86	5887	0	16	14	71.58	15.38	281.97	100
32:21.1	2.85	5887	0	16	14.5	73.01	15.38	284.83	100
32:21.2	2.84	6004	0	16	14.5	73.01	15.53	284.83	100
32:21.2	2.84	6004	0	16	15	73.9	15.53	287.75	100
32:21.3	2.84	6078	0	16	15	73.9	15.53	287.75	100
32:21.3	2.81	6078	0	16	15	73.44	15.53	284.34	100
32:21.4	2.8	6147	0	16	15	73.44	15.53	284.34	100
32:21.4	2.81	6147	0	16	15.5	73.44	15.53	290.19	100
32:21.5	2.79	6162	0	16	15.5	73.62	15.53	290.19	100
32:21.6	2.77	6162	0	16	15.5	73.62	15.53	290.19	100
32:21.6	2.74	6224	0	16	17.5	73.03	15.53	287.27	100
32:21.7	2.72	6224	0	16	17.5	73.03	15.53	287.27	100
32:21.7	2.73	6378	0	16	18	73.47	15.53	287.75	100
32:21.8	2.7	6378	0	16	18	73.47	15.53	287.75	100
32:21.8	2.68	6378	0	16	18	74.16	15.53	286.78	100
32:21.9	2.68	6438	0	16	18	74.16	15.53	286.78	100
32:21.9	2.66	6438	0	16	18	74.16	15.53	286.78	100
32:22.0	2.63	6527	0	16	18.5	73.8	15.67	285.8	100
32:22.0	2.64	6527	0	16	18.5	73.8	15.67	285.8	100
32:22.1	2.62	6602	0	16	19	73.24	15.67	284.83	100
32:22.1	2.63	6602	0	16	19	73.24	15.67	284.83	100
32:22.2	2.59	6602	0	16	19	73.24	15.67	284.83	100
32:22.2	2.58	6660	0	16	19	72.47	15.96	282.66	100
32:22.3	2.57	6660	0	16	19	72.47	15.96	282.66	100
32:22.3	2.55	6660	0	16	20	72.59	15.96	285.31	100
32:22.4	2.55	6672	0	16	20	72.59	16.11	285.31	100
32:22.4	2.52	6672	0	16	20	72.59	16.11	285.31	100
32:22.5	2.51	6812	0	16	20	72.66	16.11	284.83	100
32:22.6	2.5	6812	0	16	20	72.66	16.11	284.83	100
32:22.6	2.48	6812	0	16	20	72.66	16.11	284.83	100
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Old 04-10-2013, 05:20 PM   #4
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looks good to me! awesome powerband, congrats!!
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Old 04-10-2013, 06:21 PM   #5
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I loved the 18G on my hybrid. Enjoy the power.
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Old 04-10-2013, 06:45 PM   #6
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looks good to me! awesome powerband, congrats!!
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I loved the 18G on my hybrid. Enjoy the power.

Thanks. It's pretty quick for now and kicks in nicely even with slow torque delivery because of the 5spd-safe tune.

Could anyone with more experience than me chime in on the timing?
What is considered really low,in the middle, and aggressive on 93 oct at this boost?
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I'm no tuner, but that sure does look like a boost spike.
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Old 04-11-2013, 03:53 AM   #8
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Boost spike at the end? It does go up a little, which is odd, but there certainly isn't much of a "spike".

You should hit up a dyno day, I'm curious how it would look on one.

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I'm not a tuner, but only thing I would be worried about is the load columns for timing/fuel. Make sure they're scaled out far enough to give you a "buffer" since you're hitting 3.3x load in the mid-range. Timing also looks conservative in the mid-range, probably to help with the 5-speed.
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You pretty sure its only an 18g? It seems like a lot of power from an TD05 7cm 18g, especially seeing you are running 10.6~ and are only holding 16psi from 5000-redline. Looks like a fun car!
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I'm not a tuner, but only thing I would be worried about is the load columns for timing/fuel. Make sure they're scaled out far enough to give you a "buffer" since you're hitting 3.3x load in the mid-range. Timing also looks conservative in the mid-range, probably to help with the 5-speed.

I'm pretty sure that stock ECU just interpolates the values from the last cell or uses the same values from the last column.
So if your map is scaled to 3g/rev of load the ECU will use values(or interpolate) from 3g/rev column for an anything over 3. Right now I'm scaled to 3.2 and although I've seen 3.5 in my logs with 21psi I don't think that scaling past 3.2 is really necessary.Someone correct me if I'm wrong though.

Only thing to worry about is MAF g/sec which only could be scaled to 300 and you can't go past that(unless you do the MAF mode)

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You pretty sure its only an 18g? It seems like a lot of power from an TD05 7cm 18g, especially seeing you are running 10.6~ and are only holding 16psi from 5000-redline. Looks like a fun car!
I'm pretty sure. Keep in mind that those are not-SAE corrected numbers plus they are little skewed by bumps in road. It looks like everyone posts uncorrected dynojet VD #'s so I did too for the sake of comparison to others. SAE corrected pull on really flat road should show ~340whp/360wtrq dynojet which is pretty realistic.

Anyway 20psi by 3750rpm from a ebay 18g turbo is pretty nice. Well see how it will perform after a rebuild. I have a rebuild kit ready and should be able to do it next week.
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Anyway 20psi by 3750rpm from a ebay 18g turbo is pretty nice. Well see how it will perform after a rebuild. I have a rebuild kit ready and should be able to do it next week.
You can measure the inducer/exducer on the wheels to confirm the size of the turbo.
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Old 07-02-2013, 10:37 PM   #13
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Finally got time to rebuild the turbo.

It had like 1 inch of front/back play and compressor wheel was damaged due to rubbing on the housing.

After measuring compressor and turbine wheels I confirmed that the compressor wheel is a standard Td05 18g but the turbine wheel was a surprise because it's a TD06H wheel. 67/58.7mm inducer/exducer compared to 55.8/49.1mm on standard TD05 wheel.
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