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Old 04-10-2013, 10:39 AM   #1
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When did they start these? They seem to vary by model and Zip and sales in those models and Zips. It comes across as a Premium Charge to the customer for sales being less in their area. It isn't just Subaru that does this apparently.
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Old 04-10-2013, 11:39 AM   #2
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sounds like dealer markup and its been done for years on hot selling cars or new models that just come out.
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Old 04-10-2013, 11:58 AM   #3
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Are you talking about new or used car pricing?

New: regional distributors have their own advertising and other costs. That gets added onto every car in the region. In my region, it's SNE aka Ernie Boch Jr.

For used cars, it's determined by demand in a region. In New England, northern midwest, rocky mountains, upper northwest, AWD cars in general are in great demand. In the south/southwest, who the hell needs AWD.....thus the lower demand and lower regional value.
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Old 04-10-2013, 12:31 PM   #4
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whoa whoa whoa whoa!! hold the phone. You're saying that prices of things differ depending on where you are in the country/world????
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Old 04-10-2013, 12:37 PM   #5
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whoa whoa whoa whoa!! hold the phone. You're saying that prices of things differ depending on where you are in the country/world????
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Old 04-11-2013, 07:40 AM   #6
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whoa whoa whoa whoa!! hold the phone. You're saying that prices of things differ depending on where you are in the country/world????

Ever notice when you go to research a car on a company/used car website, the first thing it does is asks your zip code?.....
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Old 04-11-2013, 07:57 AM   #7
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Just one of the many reasons not to buy cars from a dealership.
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Old 04-11-2013, 08:56 AM   #8
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Here in South Florida, they call it an "ADP" Or Additional Dealer Profit. We typically see these on hard to find cars, like when the Corvette ZR-1 first came out, there would be a $10,000 ADP added to the sticker by the dealer.

Some VW dealers have an ADP added to any TDI models. Remember, at ANY car dealer, the nice, friendly salesperson is not your friend. He is there is extract as much money as possible from you, and is a professional at it
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:12 AM   #9
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There should be nothing regionally added in your location, at least not from Subaru the corporation. Sounds like a dealer charge that you could contest.
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:19 AM   #10
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Remember, at ANY car dealer, the nice, friendly salesperson is not your friend. He is there is extract as much money as possible from you, and is a professional at it
Ahhhh say it isn't so Wally!
That's the problem with sales of anything nowadays. From the get-go it is adversarial and doesn't have to be. In spite of the "99% occupy wallstreet mantra" not EVERBODY is out to screw the consumer.

Yes you can throw a dart blind and hit a salesman who doesn't put your interests above their own but if you look around in any business based on sales that longevity comes from helping people first. 10 % of the salesman will make 90% of the money over the long haul. The most successful will listen to their customers and work to make sure that the customer is satisfied enough to buy from them again and refer others.

In general though businesses have to make profit and will be creative with things like Regional fees to cover expenses AND God forbid make money on top of it. In Europe they do it differently...it's call value added taxes and the Government is the professional who extracts the money. Just check out what it costs to buy a car outside of the U.S. You don't have to look far to find even Canadians coming here to get a bargain from the capitalist "stealership" pigs.

And No I am not in the car business.
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:28 AM   #11
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Ahhhh say it isn't so Wally!
That's the problem with sales of anything nowadays. From the get-go it is adversarial and doesn't have to be. In spite of the "99% occupy wallstreet mantra" not EVERBODY is out to screw the consumer.

Yes you can throw a dart blind and hit a salesman who doesn't put your interests above their own but if you look around in any business based on sales that longevity comes from helping people first. 10 % of the salesman will make 90% of the money over the long haul. The most successful will listen to their customers and work to make sure that the customer is satisfied enough to buy from them again and refer others.

In general though businesses have to make profit and will be creative with things like Regional fees to cover expenses AND God forbid make money on top of it. In Europe they do it differently...it's call value added taxes and the Government is the professional who extracts the money. Just check out what it costs to buy a car outside of the U.S. You don't have to look far to find even Canadians coming here to get a bargain from the capitalist "stealership" pigs.

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Excellent post. This is not 1970 guys. The generalizations that we are all out to get customers is just not accurate. There is SO much available at the consumers fingertips on the interwebz, we (and many dealers) just focus on volume incentives and exceeding customer's expectations.
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Excellent post. This is not 1970 guys. The generalizations that we are all out to get customers is just not accurate. There is SO much available at the consumers fingertips on the interwebz, we (and many dealers) just focus on volume incentives and exceeding customer's expectations.
I'm sure it's the same way at your dealership, but I know up here in NE where we have 17 Subaru dealers within miles of each other, they thrive not off who can make an extra $15 off a customer, but on customer service. They all do surveys with the customer, which SNE takes very seriously. Dealers get awards for service, not necessarily for sales.

My favorite part of people on this forum (and in general) that call places stealerships, are usually the same people who say it in this context:

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I'll never take my car to a stealership because they won't honor my warranty after I blowed up engine when I swapped in a turbo and exhaust system. Effing Stealerships, just trying to make a buck.
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Old 04-11-2013, 11:48 AM   #13
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Yep, it will take more time to overcome the stereotypes, but all we can do is try our best.
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Old 04-11-2013, 02:59 PM   #14
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Yep, it will take more time to overcome the stereotypes...

Not in this lifetime; because it still goes on at many dealerships. My dealerships other brands have several "stereotypical" salesmen.
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Old 04-11-2013, 03:29 PM   #15
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Just one of the many reasons not to buy cars from a dealership.
hope you never want to own a new car then
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Old 04-11-2013, 08:07 PM   #16
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I've bought 15 new cars in my lifetime and I can honestly say that 1 of them was and honest to goodness guy. The other 14 were just there to try and make a quick buck without putting in any effort. Maybe it's because I'm pretty young still and they might not take me seriously.
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Sounds like bs
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That gets added onto every car in the region.
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Old 04-12-2013, 08:32 AM   #19
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There should be nothing regionally added in your location, at least not from Subaru the corporation. Sounds like a dealer charge that you could contest.
It was on the Edmunds site. I had not noticed it before. An example would be a $60 Charge in Colorado to $800 in Alaska with Indiana falling in around $300.
I don't know where Edmunds gets it, but they use it in calculating final cost. Tried it with a Ford vehicle and they had it their too.
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