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Old 04-19-2013, 04:37 PM   #1
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Default Anybody upgrade sound system without sub?

I really need to upgrade the stock sound system in my 2009 wrx as many of you know it's not very good. I have an mrp500 amp and a ten inch kicker l3 from my previous car but I wanted to get some input from anyone who has upgraded their speakers and maybe threw in a small amp for the speakers. How is it? Is it worth the money/sound quality? I definitely want to get more bass and frequency but I wanted to try avoiding installing the sub because it takes up trunk space and would be annoying anytime I needed to get to the spare tire/jack. Any input would be great thanks!
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Old 04-19-2013, 09:08 PM   #2
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price comes down to brand, quality not so much. If you're dead set against a sub then the best bass you can get from a door speaker would be 6x9's with a dedicated amp for the two of them, however those won't fit in your rear doors and custom work will be required. So it comes down to what you want out of your speakers, if you want booming bass, use your sub and deal with it....if you don't care so much then just get a set of speakers that fit, amp them and tune it to your liking and be set that way. You will not find a speaker that's less than 7in diameter that'll be a replacement for a dedicated subwoofer system.
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Old 04-19-2013, 09:26 PM   #3
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You'll get a better variety of answers by posting in the correct sub forum. http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=25

edit: just noticed that you did
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Old 04-19-2013, 10:58 PM   #4
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My old bugeye had a nakamichi cd45z, some jl 5.25 separates, and 5.25 coaxials in the rear deck lid. No amp or sub.

I loved how clean that setup was. Both in looks and sound. It did need a sub though, and an amp could have helped too, but it was a simple budget upgrade.
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Old 04-20-2013, 09:47 AM   #5
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I changed the original HU for a fancier one, (non nav), and saw an improvement. I also replaced the stock speakers with the Upgraded ones Subaru sells. Mainly because I wanted PNP. They sound light years better than the stockers. I have the small Alpine 4 ch amp that I intend to install at some point but I haven't gotten round to that as of yet. I am pretty happy with the improvement in sound. I believe the HU goes up to 40 on the volume, and I can run it at 36 an have decent sound. Adding 40 watts RMS per channel should put things where I'll be happy with it, and consider it done.

As you probably know, getting those pesky loudness and EQ settings turned off make things better. The other things I have done have also netted improvements. I also know you could probably get better speakers for less and the spacers needed from P Henry. That alone would likely yield a big improvement.

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Old 04-20-2013, 09:51 AM   #6
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you could try to modify the rear doors to mount some 8in for them and amp them you can get some decent bass out of a quality 8in .
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Old 04-20-2013, 10:21 AM   #7
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I changed my head unit to get bluetooth and HD Radio. At the same time I had the
front speaker changed. I'm happy with the results.

Go to radio installers and listen to their equipment.
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Old 04-20-2013, 12:37 PM   #8
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http://www.fastwrx.com/auinsubo.html

They say it allows access to the spare tire. If you already had a sub, then you'll never be happy without it. Low frequencies require power and air movement; no 6 x 9 door speaker is going to do that.
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Old 04-20-2013, 05:58 PM   #9
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http://www.fastwrx.com/auinsubo.html

They say it allows access to the spare tire. If you already had a sub, then you'll never be happy without it. Low frequencies require power and air movement; no 6 x 9 door speaker is going to do that.
Although I agree that probably one of the best option to install a sub into the WRX/STi I think It's rather overpriced (just my opinion).

@OP: Door speakers definitely WON'T ever give you the same result as a dedicated sub-woofer would. A lot of members here have been putting underseat sub into their cars and seems to be happy with it so may be that'll be something you can look into.
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Old 04-21-2013, 03:21 PM   #10
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If a person spends the extra time and money and really seals up the front doors (outter & inner skins) with a sound dampening product a good quality 6 inch separate can really produce some good midbass...granted that's no sub of course.

You can pick up Audio Integrations enclosures directly from them as well for a bit cheaper - http://www.audiointegrations.net/08subaru.html

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Old 04-22-2013, 01:27 AM   #11
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Seal up your rear doors really well and get a couple of JL Audio 6W3v3-4: 6.5-inch (165 mm) Subwoofer Driver, 4 Ω subs with a amp. That will be about the best you can do without a dedicated sub. These are true 6" subs that can run off of a small 50-75 WRMS amp. You don't need rear fill speakers since they really don't do much filling anyway. I went with two six inch CDT M6 subs in my XRX's rear doors and they provided adaquit bass response if not very spectacular. They are about half the price of the JLs.

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Old 04-23-2013, 04:43 PM   #12
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Thanks for all the ideas guys! I think I might just go with some door speakers and a head unit and maybe a small amp for them considering I just put my new exhaust on and that brought out many new interior rattles so I can't imagine how bad it would be with a sub without getting the whole car dynomatted or something
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There are a few companies that make 6.5" subs. Kicker, JL, Dynaudio, Tang-Band. I've always wanted to play with a pair in the rear doors.

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Old 04-23-2013, 05:34 PM   #14
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There are a few companies that make 6.5" subs. Kicker, JL, Dynaudio, Tang-Band. I've always wanted to play with a pair in the rear doors.

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Yea I'll definitely look into those, but I would imagine they would be too deep to fit in the doors
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Old 04-24-2013, 07:22 AM   #15
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How about an underseat sub ? I have a Rockford Fosgate sub under the front seat of my Xterra, and it does a pretty good job.
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Yea I'll definitely look into those, but I would imagine they would be too deep to fit in the doors
I fit the CDT M6 Sub/Mids in the rear doors without and adapters. You will need to deaden the doors unless you like rattles.
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Old 04-24-2013, 09:06 AM   #17
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get a set of decent components for the front stage and put two 6" subs in the rear doors.
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2 6" subs in the rear would be awesome but would they fit?
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they sell adapters to make the 6" fit, you would have to measure depth, some people have went with shallow mount 6's.
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I fit the CDT M6 Sub/Mids in the rear doors without and adapters. You will need to deaden the doors unless you like rattles.
Where did you buy them from? I've looked online and can't seem to find them anywhere besides amazon and eBay and I'm a little skeptical about ordering electronics from eBay lol and how do you like them? Seems like they'd be good for what I'm looking for

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Old 04-25-2013, 07:57 AM   #21
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Install a traditional system..

Buy a small 8-10" sub and TRUCK style sub box.. should be small enough to fit behind the driver seat (see Parts Express for inexpensive boxes and subs)

Put sub on a longish piece of wire and have a bananna terminal on the wire and cup on the box..

If you need the back seat.. put the sub in the trunk. .. if you need it all... put the sub in the garage...

You get all the bennies
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You could also consider "bass shakers" for subless bass...
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Old 04-25-2013, 09:50 AM   #23
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woofersetc.com isnt bad. hifisoundconnection.com . Knukoncepz.com for wiring.
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