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Old 08-16-2013, 04:47 PM   #26
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Just stumbled onto this thread. Awesome build! Wish I had the customization skills and time do something similar.

I'm running passives up front, (HAT L1, HAT Crossover) with a Hertz HSK165 mid. I've been thinking about swapping out the Hertz for an L6 or something else.
Q: What were your thoughts going from L6 -> Peerless? If you were to swap the fronts a 3rd time, what else would you try?
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Old 08-16-2013, 08:30 PM   #27
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Thanks man.

L6 vs SLS... hmmm.... For what you got going on stay away from the SLS like the plague. It will sounds like complete GARBAGE in a passive setup like that. This is mid bass only speaker and it wont do anything for you in the midrange. Right now I got it setup at high passed 65hz 24dB and 250hz 24dB. I know that's kind of steep but my HAT L4's can get down there and make up for it. I still need a lot of seat time with it to get out some nasty peaks but I'll give you a quick run down of how I would compare the 2.

So far the SLS has been a science project. I really wish I had an RTA to help me find the peaks to help me fine tune. With that being said though... Holy @#!7 does this thing move some air! My doors are fully deadend and sealed and this thing is springing new rattles I've never heard before. F me right? They got some serious authority in the 60-100hz range. SERIOUS. I've had to take out the door cards multiple times to hunt down random rattles. Kinda annoying... lol. For what I wanted, this cheep speaker delivers! Again though I would only recommend this for the 3 way active user. Don't even bother if you're running a passive 2 way system.

Now the HAT L6. Ahh... I love this thing it really is a gem. It is VERY forgiving on placement and how you use it. It blends very well with a mid range or going straight up to a tweeter. By far the L6, has been one of my favorite speakers to own. Originally I thought that the L6 didn't really have any midbass though. It just seemed kinda lack luster down low. After a lot of tinkering with my original build with the JBL MS-8, I concluded that that was that major issue. I tried all the stupid tricks from DIYMA and I couldn't get it to where I wanted it. That's why I went with the zapco. When I did take out the MS-8 and was running the L6 full range off the head unit, I found the bass I had been missing. Go figure...

Swapping the fronts again for me is going to be a whole new ball game. Maybe in a year or so. When I do though its going to be custom door cards with mini sub boxes. I was thinking maybe the Digital Design w6.5 or even bumping up to a shallow 8".

For what you're are looking at you really can't go wrong with that L6. Especially since the crossover you have is MEANT for it. Personally I might want to play around with the Dayton rs180's or some Seas drivers. I'd really like to get my hands on some Dynaudio Esostars though....
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Old 08-17-2013, 10:44 AM   #28
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Here are some pics of the Peerless Sls next to the HAT L6.







Here are some more of the amp racks. Going to making some more additions to the 1st one though. Need to put in a relay for some fans to push some air on the z-150.6. My trunk gets hot as hell..





Yesterday while cruising around I found some really nasty alternator whine. After some trouble shooting found that just ch 1 and ch 2 off the head unit was having the ground loop. Really weird. So I grounded all the RCAs to be safe. Since my RCA connectors are 2 pice that twist together I just backed the body's off a little, wrapped the wire and tightened them back down. Might be a little hard to see.



Here's a quick mock up of things to come. I used some tape to see how I would like the placement while I was driving around and the controls.



And yes those are track controls at the bottom. I can control all that and have easy access to brightness on the fly. My iPad mini is cracked.
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Old 08-18-2013, 12:56 AM   #29
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Worked on the iPad mini bezel today. Almost done with it. Here what I got..

These magnets are strong as hell!



I picked up a spek iPad mini case. Drilled some holes in it and put a metal plate on the back. Probably going to plasti dip black.



I already had a piece of 3 layered fiberglass sitting around so I cut it up and put it in between the magnets and my iPad. Saved me some time from adding extra layers.



Now, I'm kinda lazy... So instead of trying to get the fiberglass all nice and pretty in here I used aluminum tape in the front to seal the iPad. Then made a batch or resin and tossed in chunks of fiber glass and dumped it in there.



And... Worked pretty good.



The magnets seem to work as well!



After that it was fiber glass stage 2. The front of these thing... Put down 3 layers and seems to have turned out alright.



That odd ball bump on the left is for the lightning. I wanted the iPad to be removed, but I also wanted it to play through the istreamer dac so this is what I came up with.



Now this piece isn't done yet. Tomorrow is sanding, bondo, primer galore day for this thing. I'm going to make it so that you can't see the bump on the left where the cable runs through.

As always, more to follow..
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Old 08-18-2013, 06:25 AM   #30
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Subscribed like a crack addict awaiting his next fix. You are doing a wonderful job sir. Is this your profession, or just a well thought out hobby?
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Old 08-18-2013, 11:55 PM   #31
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Subscribed like a crack addict awaiting his next fix. You are doing a wonderful job sir. Is this your profession, or just a well thought out hobby?
Lol, thanks man. Ya this is just a hobby for me. I wish I had a shop to work out of! All I got is a 1 car garage and an apartment complex parking lot lol..

Quick update:

Didn't get a whole lot done today as it was raining, but I should be done with the this part tomorrow for sure.







It's all body filled and primerd up. Ill hit it with some light sanding and throw a couple of coats of flat black on it. I really hate this part of my build.. Me and body filler, paint and other crap don't get along.
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Old 08-20-2013, 01:58 AM   #32
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So had a change in heart about painting the iPad doc. I got some 3M di-noc on the way and I'm just going to wrap it. Here are some installed pics as it sits now.

On the back of it I mounted the istreamer with so good ol Velcro.



Some shots with out the iPad.





Some with the iPad in.





Instead of finishing the remote face plate mount I decided to start to tackle what I think is going to be the hardest part of this instal. The damn a pillars... I didn't realize how much a pita the HAT L4's were going to be to stick up there. All I managed was a quick mock up.





I'll be tackling these things full force tomorrow. Ring supports and glassing in the rings.. Oh fun...
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Old 08-23-2013, 10:33 PM   #33
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iPad mini mount is now done! Pillars are about 90% done too. Should have pics up later of the a pillars. Oh and btw.... To all the people who can make pillars and make it look easy.... I hate you all...





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Old 08-23-2013, 11:26 PM   #34
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Amazing work. How happy are you with the 3M di noc? I have it sitting in my amazon cart debating trying to wrap my interior trim with it. How well did it conform around edges?
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Old 08-24-2013, 12:27 AM   #35
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Amazing work. How happy are you with the 3M di noc? I have it sitting in my amazon cart debating trying to wrap my interior trim with it. How well did it conform around edges?
As long as it's actual 3M di noc I love it. I've had other things covered in it for over a year and this stuff is super durable. Di noc can be a little hard to work with though since it is so thick. You need to give it a lot of heat and move fast or it stiffens up again. For tough corners just make sure you have some sort of adhesion promoter and you'll be fine.
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Old 08-24-2013, 09:50 AM   #36
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I don't know a thing about audio so I didn't read anything, but from the pics, this is some impressive stuff!
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Old 08-25-2013, 06:46 PM   #37
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Well the pillars are in. They might not be the best in the world but I think they turned out ok...







Then with my awesome luck more crap hits the fan! Was doing some basic tuning to set up the crossover points and come to find out that ch 1 on the zapco z150.6 is dead. No output no nada. Fml. And this is why kids you put in speaker isolation boards to make trouble shooting quick and easy!
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How happy are you with the tweeters firing at each other across the dash? I am about to start my pillars and am unsure how to aim them. Mids will be in doors, only tweeters up top.
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Old 09-02-2013, 04:50 AM   #39
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Honestly man it's going to be dependent on the tweeters you have. The HAT L1R2's do really well off axis like that and sound amazing. What I recommend doing is taping up your tweeters and see how they do on and off axis. Then Mount them the way that sounds good to you.
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Old 09-02-2013, 07:59 AM   #40
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Your work look's pretty good, kudos, but the A pillar stuff really seems to decently limit your view out of the windsheild. I don't/won't compromise that view, regardless of what cool gadget I can employ.

Good work, nonetheless; I've never been in a subi with a proper sound system, I'm sure you must enjoy driving your car.
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Old 09-02-2013, 01:24 PM   #41
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Unless you are 3feet tall, this doesn't limit your view IMO. I mean really looking it, is your head only 4" above the steering wheel to be in your line of vision?

The location is equivalent to where you would mount a GPS or phone mount.

Great job on the installation, your test fitting, and darn near OE looks.
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Old 09-02-2013, 05:02 PM   #42
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Thanks for the complements guys


Ya honestly I don't feel that I've lost any field of view. At most of what I can't see is the back corner of the hood on the drivers side. Everything past that though is business as usual.
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Well, Zapco has been giving me the runaround about getting the Zapco Z-150.6 fixed. I've been waiting over a week to get an RA request form so that I can ship to them to fix... This is getting really damn disappointing....

Other than that the Ipad setup has been working very well. Love it! I have been using the app "cartunes" to manage my music. Started working on the sub boxes again. Trying to figure out how to get the most air space without sacrificing too much room in the trunk for each box. Not going to be able to finish the trunk though till i get the damn 150.6 fixed....

Anyway I'll post up more picks as it comes along.
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Old 09-23-2013, 10:31 PM   #44
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Old 09-23-2013, 10:54 PM   #45
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Old 09-25-2013, 07:07 AM   #46
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Sorry, been kinda busy getting ready to move. Zapco is supposed to get my z-150.6 to me Thursday so fingers crossed!

With that being said I finished the boxes up. The fit is "meh". They were a PIA to get in and keep the air sizes the same. I can see why now companies only make driver side sub box. It's pretty damn tough to keep them the same on the passenger side because of the gas tank.

Glassed in some steel mesh for the box shape and they came out right about 1.1cu ft each without sub. So little on the small side.







You can see where the boxes rub. It's the only way I could pull it off and get enough airspace. I don't mind it too much as I have sorely missed the authority of 12"s

On the to do list:

1) Cut up factory trunk may to fit.
2) cut up 150.6 amp rack to mount fans on the bottom
3) wire in relay for fans and fan power
4) mount lexan covers to amp racks.
5) make foam pieces to cover gaps and carpet them.

Other then that this project will be done! I just need my damn 6ch back though...

Anyway ill try and update this as things come. I'm hoping to have it done by Friday. Then it's tuning time.
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Old 10-01-2013, 01:10 PM   #47
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So I was involved in a fender bender the other day. So the car is in the shop and trunk remains unfinished.... FML. BUUUT, I did get a wokring zapco z-150.6 and everything is firing on all cycliders amazingly! Sound stage is very wide and great depth. I'm very happy with how things have turned out. Here are a 2 pics of the center and full front setup as I realized I never uploaded a pic with the H/U face plate installed.





I hope to get the trunk cleaned up as soon as the car is back from the shop. More to follow of course...
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