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Old 04-29-2013, 02:08 PM   #1
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Default VF39 FXT w/ AUTO Trans & GRIMMSPEED TOP MOUNT INTERCOOLER 280/280whp on DynoJet

Im doing some testing on this new Grimmspeed Prototype Top Mount Intercooler. Super fantastic Results. Suprised myself and the tuner.

Taking place at All ASpects Motorsports
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Dynojet dyno normally puts 04-07 sti around 240whp give or take.


My Mod list as follows

Automatic transmission - pulls done in 3rd Gear We were unable to Lay in it until about 4500 RPM's because if we went WOT any sooner, car downshifted to 2nd
18x10 wheels

Grimmspeed Top Mount Intercooler release coming soon
Grimmspeed Phenolic spacers
Grimmspeed divorced downpipe
Grimmspeed downpipe to stock catback adapter (running stock wrx midpipe)
Grimmspeed Up Pipe
Grimmspeed Gaskets everywhere

other mods...
Apexi short ram intake
zero sports after maf tube
HKS Unequal length header
JDM Axle Back
Cusco Catch Can


Motor is a FRESH OEM longblock with ARP Head studs and Fresh STI Cams
Brand New VF39
Stock boost controller


My Tuner is Very Familiar with Subarus. 04-07 Stage 2 sti normally puts down 290-300 WHP depending on bolt ons.

He has never tuned an Automatic Subaru


I started pout building an automatic STI, and I believe Ive accomplished it.

BIG THANKS to GRIMMSPEED For letting me run the Piece of ART WORK on my car. Every Grimmspeed part is Top Notch as always. Quality Control is Crazy over there.


First pull, can was on COBB AP Base Map, 91 octane, Automatic Stage 3 map.

I figured it would make 230-240 whp.

First Pulls were 250whp/240wtq at 14.6 PSI :new_multi:

Holy crap.. that was good for a base map with no adjustments. :biggrin:


We did Multiple Pulls Where I used a Laser Heat Gun To Measure the temperature drop on the core. First was with NO Fan Directly on the intercooler, but only on the front of the car. Air was deflecting and not hitting the intercooler in any way. This is also how my base numbers were achieved.

Testing Area Temps were 73*

first run was with No fan on the intercooler
100* at the top tank - 75* bottom tank






2nd pull - (still no fan on intercooler)
101.1* top
79.5* bottom


tuning begins.....


100* top
70* bottom with small electric fan sitting in front
274 whp / 270 wtq

98* up top
76* on bottom ( with small fan)
280whp /279wtq

we did multiple pulls. I have one video where i lasered the intercooler 101* on top and 80* on the bottom right after a pull with no fan. temps stayed a consistent 30* drop on all pulls with the fan sitting in front. These Drops will Be even better when you are cruising at 60 mph. :icon_surprised:

My Forester making 280/280 through the Automatic Transmission is damn strong and the tuner was impressed. (It takes a lot to impress him because hes seen thousands of subarus on his dyno). He liked the intercooler, said it looked like a damn high quality piece. That's ALOT coming from this tuner, Kienan, from All Aspects, Seriously. I also have dyno graphs of course.

Also to be noted base pulls were 14.7 lbs of boost. we picked up 30whp with only 2 more lbs of boost, 16.7-16.9 and less timing.
I think the intercooler worked.


The Only reason we stopped at 280/280, my Injector Duty Cycle ( IDC ) was running at 97%. The boost was also falling off a bit up top. I would love to hop back on with a Grimmspeed 3 port and some 800cc injectors and see if we could get the little peppy ***** up to 300whp through the Automatic Transmission.


Ill have Dyno Graphs Posted as soon as he emails them over. And of course.. pics of the TMIC.
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Old 04-29-2013, 02:08 PM   #2
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Old 04-29-2013, 02:33 PM   #3
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Great numbers! Just out of curiosity what year fxt?
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Old 04-29-2013, 02:58 PM   #4
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Great numbers! Just out of curiosity what year fxt?
2005 and thanks, super surprised for what its running.
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Old 04-29-2013, 03:16 PM   #5
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Nice set up you have there.
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Old 04-29-2013, 04:10 PM   #6
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I love all my Grimmspeed stuff, tmics and I have a forester myself. Interest peeked!

Got any pics of this top mount to post?
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Old 04-29-2013, 05:35 PM   #7
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So you used all of those Grimmspeed parts, but used the stock boost solenoid?
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Old 04-29-2013, 11:14 PM   #8
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I love all my Grimmspeed stuff, tmics and I have a forester myself. Interest peeked!

Got any pics of this top mount to post?
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So you used all of those Grimmspeed parts, but used the stock boost solenoid?
indeed

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Nice set up you have there.
Thank you, pics on the way.. sorry for the delay.
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Old 04-30-2013, 10:32 AM   #9
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The piece meat has is a prototype and is visually an un-finished product. Functionally it's sound but we would like to wait to post pictures until we have a finished piece available. The release on these will be very soon

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Old 04-30-2013, 10:35 AM   #10
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Grimmspeed should make an affordable V-mount, I'd be all about that!
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Old 04-30-2013, 10:48 AM   #11
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Im looking too upgrade my 08+ GR sti stock TMIC I have on my built/swapped 04 Forester XTI. I have a APS TMIC for my built wrx thats being converted too a fulltime hillclimb car. I was planning too do some before and after logs and graphs on the dyno/street to see the results between the two on my forester.

Ill be doing all testing/tuning with the help of my old boss and great friend Dave Brown at Performance Auto Solutions "PAS".

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Old 04-30-2013, 05:39 PM   #12
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Post 2 updated with a Graph.

Gonna put some 800cc's in and re tune in a few weeks.
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Old 04-30-2013, 06:23 PM   #13
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With more fuel you'll need more boost. Time to upgrade the controller

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With more fuel you'll need more boost. Time to upgrade the controller

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Sponsor him one, lets see what this thing can really do.
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Old 04-30-2013, 07:59 PM   #15
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With more fuel you'll need more boost. Time to upgrade the controller

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Sponsor him one, lets see what this thing can really do.

Haha... I have like 4 on my desk, ill throw one on.

Gonna put this full 3" JIC catback on to and get rid of the mid pipe, some 800's, and a boost controller. See if we can touch 300wheel.

If we do, there's only one real explanation... The intercooler
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Why no modded torque converter or valve body?
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Why no modded torque converter or valve body?
why spend a grand or more on an automatic transmission when I never plan on going larger then a vf39, and Its just a daily driver, not a race car.

I have a sti for the big power
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Thanks for putting this puppy to the test, Justin!

It hasn't been mentioned yet, but we have definitely been doing a lot of testing internally, so there will be no shortage of data and analysis once the intercooler is formally released.

Numbers look solid!

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Thanks for putting this puppy to the test, Justin!

It hasn't been mentioned yet, but we have definitely been doing a lot of testing internally, so there will be no shortage of data and analysis once the intercooler is formally released.

Numbers look solid!

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hopefully they numbers will look about 30whp better in the next few weeks.
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Old 05-03-2013, 08:16 AM   #20
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Sorry to jack thread but any idea on a release date of the TMIC?

BallPark?

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Thanks for putting this puppy to the test, Justin!

It hasn't been mentioned yet, but we have definitely been doing a lot of testing internally, so there will be no shortage of data and analysis once the intercooler is formally released.

Numbers look solid!

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Sorry to jack thread but any idea on a release date of the TMIC?

BallPark?
We're just wrapping up packaging details right now. Provided everything continues smoothly, we should release in a week or so!!!

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We're just wrapping up packaging details right now. Provided everything continues smoothly, we should release in a week or so!!!

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Hows the R&D process going with the prototype V-mount?
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Old 05-03-2013, 10:33 AM   #23
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These TMIC's are so close to walking out the door.
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Old 05-08-2013, 08:55 PM   #24
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These TMIC's are so close to walking out the door.
oh stand by.... im gonna post a pic of mine.
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Old 05-08-2013, 09:01 PM   #25
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go go go 4eat! I'm getting mine dyno'd soon too! May 19th! 2008 wrx 4eat with tons of goodies! Hopefully aiming for 270 awhp and 280 awtq.
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