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Old 04-30-2013, 12:46 PM   #1
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Default The new 911 turbo is a rich kid's wet dream

http://www.roadandtrack.com/go/futur...sche-911-turbo



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  1. It has active aero. A rubber tube similar to a bicycle tire runs along the underside of the front spoiler. In Sport Plus mode, it fills with air, extending downward as a spoiler to swap the 911’s inherent front-end lift for slight downforce. Top speed is limited to 196 mph on the Turbo S because it’s all the tires can handle—otherwise the new rocket would be capable of 207.
  2. The optional ceramic brake discs measure 16.1 inches in front, 15.4 in the rear. In other words, they're enormous.
  3. In the past, Turbo models used the Carrera 4’s wide body. This time, the Turbo is even wider. C4 models are 1.7 inches wider than the base 911; add another 1.1 inches for the Turbo!
  4. Angry mobs, grab your pitchforks. There's no more manual—PDK is the only transmission now. The center differential is now a computer-controlled, water-cooled Haldex unit that can send 13 percent more power up front.
  5. Additional boost (up to 17.4 psi) and additional revs (up to 7200) means additional power: the Turbo makes 520 hp and 479 lb-ft. The Turbo S makes 560 hp and 516 lb-ft. Each motor gets an overboost function, producing another 37 lb-ft for up to ten seconds.
  6. Like the GT3, the 911 Turbo uses rear active steering for more maneuverability at low speeds and more stability at high speeds.
  7. The Turbo’s roof can be painted, made of glass, or made of carbon fiber, a la the GT3 Cup car.
  8. Not that anyone cares, but the Turbo uses some 13% less fuel than the last one. Partial thanks go to the virtual-gear programming in the PDK that uses clutch slippage to “fake” an appropriate gear ratio. It aims to keeps revs near 1000 rpm under low-speed, low-load conditions. Start/stop is standard, and now turns the engine off under 4 mph.
  9. The last Turbo and Turbo S flew around the Nürburgring in 7:39 and 7:37, respectively. The new car does it in under 7:30, meaning it could match the Carrera GT’s 7:25. Look for a 0-60 time of around 3 seconds flat.
  10. The seats are made out of $100 bills
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Old 04-30-2013, 12:50 PM   #2
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What's with the trend of the Overboost function?
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Old 04-30-2013, 12:58 PM   #3
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Old 04-30-2013, 01:38 PM   #4
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What's with the trend of the Overboost function?
because gamers.
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Old 04-30-2013, 01:49 PM   #5
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because gamers magazine racers.
Fixed.

With overboost you can claim a higher HP than would be typically found on a dyno after repeated runs due to heat soak.

My MCS has an overboost function.. the Focus ST has one.. most people driving these cars couldn't tell you in normal driving whether or not the car is in 'overboost' unless looking right at a boost gauge.
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Old 04-30-2013, 02:36 PM   #6
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Old 04-30-2013, 03:31 PM   #7
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That thing is a ****ing sexy beast. The front air damn is a cool idea. Now time for a rear spoiler that is not only active, but really wide and uses wing warping technology a la wright flyer to help gear the wing for turns as well.
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Old 04-30-2013, 03:48 PM   #8
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It is good to see Porsche exercising some frugality with the tires only being able to handle 197 mpg, I guess purchasing tires to handle 10 more mph would just make it a bit too pricey. Lord knows how Porsche is so sensitive to their pricetags.

OH no, it has Haldex, such faux wheel drive on a 911 Turbo.. Enjoy your understeer loser!

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Old 04-30-2013, 06:38 PM   #9
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OH no, it has Haldex, such faux wheel drive on a 911 Turbo.. Enjoy your understeer loser!

:P

Active rear diff FTW.

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Old 04-30-2013, 08:35 PM   #10
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It is good to see Porsche exercising some frugality with the tires only being able to handle 197 mpg, I guess purchasing tires to handle 10 more mph would just make it a bit too pricey. Lord knows how Porsche is so sensitive to their pricetags.

OH no, it has Haldex, such faux wheel drive on a 911 Turbo.. Enjoy your understeer loser!

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Active rear diff FTW.

Did you mean active rear steering?
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Old 04-30-2013, 10:49 PM   #11
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It's no 930.
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Old 04-30-2013, 10:57 PM   #12
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OH no, it has Haldex, such faux wheel drive on a 911 Turbo.. Enjoy your understeer loser!

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Since the Porsche has the drive-train going the "wrong way" wouldn't it have perpetual oversteer?
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Old 05-01-2013, 02:35 AM   #13
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They ran out of numbers for all the possible error codes so they now display Nazi Thule runes.
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:08 AM   #14
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It is good to see Porsche exercising some frugality with the tires only being able to handle 197 mpg, I guess purchasing tires to handle 10 more mph would just make it a bit too pricey. Lord knows how Porsche is so sensitive to their pricetags.

OH no, it has Haldex, such faux wheel drive on a 911 Turbo.. Enjoy your understeer loser!

:P

Correction, it has backwards Haldex.

Adding front wheel traction assist to a properly rear-drive car is an entirely different prospect than having a contrary-to-weight-transfer front-wheel-drive car, and adding meager efforts to drive the rear wheels under circumstances when the front has already lost traction.

In front-assist cases, usually it is to quell oversteer from over-powering the rear tires on low traction surfaces, or to apply more power through more tire contact patch than just the rear tires can handle.
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That thing is a ****ing sexy beast. The front air damn is a cool idea.
I hope this replaces the Garage Door Seal DIY lips.. I'd like to see all of the civics/WRXs/etc with a cycle tube glued to the bottom of the front bumper and 12V compressors in the passenger footwell.
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Correction, it has backwards Haldex.

Adding front wheel traction assist to a properly rear-drive car is an entirely different prospect than having a contrary-to-weight-transfer front-wheel-drive car, and adding meager efforts to drive the rear wheels under circumstances when the front has already lost traction.

In front-assist cases, usually it is to quell oversteer from over-powering the rear tires on low traction surfaces, or to apply more power through more tire contact patch than just the rear tires can handle.
Yeap. Unfortunately it still adds weight and detracts from handling, but turbo buyers will never care about that just like they don't care about manual transmissions or the fact that the rear wheels are attached to a pivot and steered by a computer. They just want to buy the most expensive and fastest 911 there is to impress their neighbors.
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If you want handling...

Boxster/Cayman are inherently better anyway, and GT3 is the 911-based handling car.

Turbo is not primarily focused on handling.

It is focused on getting more than 500 horsepower to the ground without spinning the car around and killing the occupants inside.

GT2-RS without the AWD isn't even as concerned about that last bit. It may actually try to kill you.
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The tire claim is BS. If they keep Turbo under 200mph they can mark up GT2 prices when the car crests 200mph.

Anyways, sweet car.
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Still not a 959 Porsche too many computers ruin the fun of driving cars nice car though
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:15 PM   #21
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...If they keep Turbo under 200mph they can mark up GT2 prices when the car crests 200mph.

This.
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Strictly speaking, he's not incorrect.
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Old 05-03-2013, 11:56 AM   #23
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Doesn't this seem like it will continue to lose to the GT-R in lap time pissing matches? As in, I was actually expecting more HP and more technology with this iteration.
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Old 05-03-2013, 12:13 PM   #24
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^^^
this, why not make it 650hp and be done with it, this way they dont have to keep playing catchup to jap's Godzilla , its not like they cant afford/ able to do it.
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Old 05-03-2013, 12:51 PM   #25
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this, why not make it 650hp and be done with it, this way they dont have to keep playing catchup to jap's Godzilla , its not like they cant afford/ able to do it.
Why not put a real engine in the Cayman for that matter? Because Porsche.
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