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Old 05-03-2013, 03:24 AM   #1
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Thanks for looking at my post. I've never posted here before.



I've driven a 2013 Impreza and loved it. I am ditching my 95 Honda Civic EX. This is my 1st Subaru.



The 'new' car has 10,000 miles on it. It is a Wagon with the Spoiler, 3 sets of tires, upgraded to WRX 17in rims, full window tint, 3m paint protection package (front, sides, mirrors, trunk).
It has a 7yr 100k warranty too. (I am totally unsure how this warranty works) It must be transferable, but I haven't been able to find any info on it online.


So, if I like the car does it even need an inspection with the warranty already on the car? I know I should probably do so and I intend to. So, if I do where should I take the Subaru? A Subaru dealership? Or a reputable shop that works on Subarus?


Thanks for any advice on buying this car. BTW it is listed for $21,500
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Old 05-03-2013, 05:22 AM   #2
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What's the price of a brand new one?
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Old 05-03-2013, 05:36 AM   #3
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With those options and warranty 26k at least. Added tint / 3m and tires another 2k.
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Old 05-03-2013, 05:50 AM   #4
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Depreciation itself after a year of ownership is about 3.5 to 4k. My personal opinion would be to buy new and do your own mod the way you want them over time. If you are interested i would definately take it to a reputable mech to have it checked out. Is it a mt or cvt?

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Old 05-03-2013, 06:37 AM   #5
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Why is the seller selling?
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Old 05-03-2013, 06:53 AM   #6
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Can't afford it, bought another new car at the same time and is getting married this summer. Car is looking nice. Has a lein on the title. Not sure how to work with that. Advice?
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Old 05-03-2013, 07:13 AM   #7
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I would called the DMV. He/she obviously still owe money on the car (dealer or finance coy) and they would go after you if you purchase it like this.
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Old 05-03-2013, 07:38 AM   #8
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Thanks for looking at my post. I've never posted here before.



I've driven a 2013 Impreza and loved it. I am ditching my 95 Honda Civic EX. This is my 1st Subaru.



The 'new' car has 10,000 miles on it. It is a Wagon with the Spoiler, 3 sets of tires, upgraded to WRX 17in rims, full window tint, 3m paint protection package (front, sides, mirrors, trunk).
It has a 7yr 100k warranty too. (I am totally unsure how this warranty works) It must be transferable, but I haven't been able to find any info on it online.


So, if I like the car does it even need an inspection with the warranty already on the car? I know I should probably do so and I intend to. So, if I do where should I take the Subaru? A Subaru dealership? Or a reputable shop that works on Subarus?


Thanks for any advice on buying this car. BTW it is listed for $21,500
I bought my 5 spd sport new for about 20,500 and got 500 in accessories. I would buy new, get the full warranty, and pick what you want. If they put rims on it and are selling it this fast it is because they are over their head financially, and my hunch would be that they beat the crap out of the car, especially once they realized they would be dumping it.

At least price the car at a dealer first, with the options you want, then look at others that may not have everything but can be made to work for you (like a premium vs a limited)
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Old 05-03-2013, 08:00 AM   #9
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I would called the DMV. He/she obviously still owe money on the car (dealer or finance coy) and they would go after you if you purchase it like this.
Just a standard loan agreement it sounds like. When the first owner bought the car, he prob financed it. The title will show a lien on it from his financial institution. That's not to be confused with a mechanics lien or the like as a result of not paying somebody. It will be just like buying it from a dealer. The dealers all have liens of a sort, its called flooring. And it's not vehicle specific but dealer in general with each vehicle listed as an asset. So when you buy from a dealer they have their own paperwork to do. It sounds like a nice car, but I wouldn't pay over 15 or 16k for it max. I'm guessing it was orig purchased with not much down and they spent lots on it but payoff is more than book. Don't get caught up in paying new car pricing for a used car because if any mod at all. The mods listed will not add value. Some actually hurt resale value. So you would be better off like mentioned above to buy new and create your own canvas. Good luck bro!
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Old 05-03-2013, 08:12 AM   #10
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Well, I'd say the car is worth more than $16k, but it's certainly not worth $21.5k.

My recommendation is that if the car checks out perfectly, offer $18k (including the extended warranty and extra tires). He won't want to accept this offer, as he probably owes at least the $21.5k he's asking. But if he's desperate to get this car off the books, you never know.

One secret to negotiating like a pro is being willing to walk away from a product that you actually like without getting emotional. So offer $18k if the car is clean, and without flinching or hesitating, say, "OK, no thanks" and leave when the seller turns down this offer. Leave your contact info with him so that he can call you if he changes his mind, but let him know that you're about to go to a dealership to look at brand new Imprezas, so he doesn't have much time to consider you as a potential buyer.
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Old 05-03-2013, 08:40 AM   #11
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My premium from the dealership cost about that much. i dont remember the exact amount, Remember in used cars additions are not 1/1 reimbursable. So if you install a 300 dollar rear wing you dont add 300 to the value of the car. They are asking too much for it .

Are you going to finanace? new car rates are much lower than used from my experience in looking so factor that into the situation long term and you might be paying more for a used car that cost about as much as a new vs a new from the dealer.
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Old 05-03-2013, 09:36 AM   #12
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$26k is too high to be 'valued' at. WRX rims are not an "upgrade," the stock Sport Premium rims are already 17". Its really a style change. Tint and 3M installed can't possibly be more than $1000 installed, and that doesn't give the value +$1000. The extended warranty is about $3000 at the time of purchase at the dealer. I don't know what you're going to do with 3 sets of tires.

I agree with the other posters completely. $21.5k is way too high, you're better off buying new for that price.
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Old 05-03-2013, 12:31 PM   #13
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Extended warranty is about $1,400 at time of purchase. It can be transferred for a $35 fee to SUBARU. If the extended warranty is a SUBARU SAS Gold, that is.

2012 Impreza Limited Sport models with low mileage in this area go for about $20k. Premiums are a bit lower.

More info on the SUBARU SAS can be found here:

http://www.subaru.com/owners/resourc...ity/index.html

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Old 05-03-2013, 01:08 PM   #14
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I wouldn't get it if it was a CVT.
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Old 05-03-2013, 04:19 PM   #15
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Depreciation itself after a year of ownership is about 3.5 to 4k. My personal opinion would be to buy new and do your own mod the way you want them over time. If you are interested i would definately take it to a reputable mech to have it checked out. Is it a mt or cvt?
Not entirely true. Around here I'm seeing one year old Impreza's with over 10k going for 1 to 2k under new at best.
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Old 05-03-2013, 04:36 PM   #16
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I wouldn't get it if it was a CVT.
This would have to be classified as one of the most idiotic statements that I have every observed, and I have seen many. CVT, AT, and MT each have different attributes some good and some bad. I believe that you have the CVT and made a conscious decision to buy one - buyers remorse?
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Old 05-03-2013, 04:38 PM   #17
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Not entirely true. Around here I'm seeing one year old Impreza's with over 10k going for 1 to 2k under new at best.
If you are not careful, you could buy a 1 year old car for more that what you would normally pay for a new one....
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Old 05-03-2013, 05:55 PM   #18
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This would have to be classified as one of the most idiotic statements that I have every observed, and I have seen many. CVT, AT, and MT each have different attributes some good and some bad. I believe that you have the CVT and made a conscious decision to buy one - buyers remorse?
don't temp him, he is just baiting people to bitch about his MPG
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Old 05-03-2013, 06:20 PM   #19
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This would have to be classified as one of the most idiotic statements that I have every observed, and I have seen many. CVT, AT, and MT each have different attributes some good and some bad. I believe that you have the CVT and made a conscious decision to buy one - buyers remorse?
You're right, that was rash. I should have said "don't buy a CVT because you will get better mpg than with the manual transmission, because you won't".

Some people like the CVT over the manual. I bought the CVT for the increased mpg and yes, if I had it to do over again I would buy a MT.

Probably.

I might have bought a Mazda 3...

P.S. I have seen many more idiotic statements here by Subaru defenders of the CVT who own MT's though - and if you don't recognize that I would wonder about you too...
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Old 05-03-2013, 08:08 PM   #21
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Op you can order a car direct from Subaru aka invoice price for cheaper than that don't buy a used car especially when it's cheaper new
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Old 05-03-2013, 08:20 PM   #22
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Other than the wing, extra tires, tint and film kit what else does it have? Is it the premium or limited sport or base style?

I got my used sport limited with 7k on for 1k less. I added a tint for 180 and it has leather and hd radio no sunroof. Warranty was still intact looks new and I got it for a little under blue book and runs great. I like used because its like not paying for the depreciation of a new car. But that's me.
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Old 05-03-2013, 08:34 PM   #23
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The OP said it was a Premium, not a Limited.
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Old 05-04-2013, 07:25 AM   #24
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You're right, that was rash. I should have said "don't buy a CVT because you will get better mpg than with the manual transmission, because you won't".

Some people like the CVT over the manual. I bought the CVT for the increased mpg and yes, if I had it to do over again I would buy a MT.

Probably.

I might have bought a Mazda 3...

P.S. I have seen many more idiotic statements here by Subaru defenders of the CVT who own MT's though - and if you don't recognize that I would wonder about you too...

FAIL -- If I drove my 5 speed at 75+mph I would get crap mileage too.

But you are operating from some "theory" that my 5 speed gets higher mpgs than your car at highway speeds.

Who was it that complained about ignorant people who don't even own a "insert transmission here" talking about what they have no direct experience of?

Explain the science behind how my car, turning higher RPM's at highway speeds, is supposed to use less gas than your car, driven at the same speeds...
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Old 05-04-2013, 07:40 AM   #25
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I think Zeeper and Stevehnm might both be right. If you took a 5MT and CVT Impreza on a long, 100% highway road trip driven at the same speed, the CVT would win that MPG competition.

But in mixed driving (which is what most people experience), the 5MT might win the MPG competition, especially during the engine warm-up phase that really clobbers the cars' fuel economy.

However, I only own a 5MT car, so I'm just guessing here. But that seems to be what people are reporting.
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