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Old 05-11-2013, 04:43 PM   #1
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Hey guys well on Thursday May 9 around 8:20 am I had just got out of work and was going to my chiropractor. I was on I85 and there was traffic ahead and while I was coming to a stop a 1986 Toyota pick up truck was going 80 mph behind me and did not realize traffic ahead and when he finally realized everyone was stopping he could not stop on time and rear ended me at least 60 mph. It was a sad day for me thankfully I am okay. If it was a bigger truck I would of been in a hospital. I thank Subaru for building such a strong car. Here are some pictures of my car....let me know what you guys think is it total or repairable. The insurance is probably gonna try to fix it. I do not want it back knowing that it has been hit so badly. It has hit the frame I looked under and the left rear door can not open with out force.


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Old 05-11-2013, 04:50 PM   #2
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Ouch, that sucks! Hopefully they'll total it for ya. Glad to hear you're ok.
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Old 05-11-2013, 05:20 PM   #3
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It'll depend how far forward the frame twisting went probably =/

Glad you're ok! Subaru safety!
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Old 05-11-2013, 05:37 PM   #4
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Glad to hear you're OK. Something like this sucks, but you already know that. I would question having the car repaired simply because there is certainly more damage than meets the eye. I would not be surprised if you easily have over 5 or 6 grand in damage. There could be unseen damage to the drive train. Hopefully the other person has insurance. I am guessing the other person was sighted for assured clear distance. It is their obligation for you to be made "whole" again. That means a rental car for some period of time if needed as well.

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Old 05-11-2013, 05:38 PM   #5
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yeah it's at a body shop right now i wont hear back from the body shop untill Monday. I really do not want it back. Even if it is repairable its not going to be the exact same car any more.
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Old 05-11-2013, 05:42 PM   #6
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yes i am not claiming on my insurance but his insurance. So no money out of my pocket and my insurance wont increase. For it to be totaled the cost of the repairs would have to be at least 14k and my car is still worth 18-20k. I do not even want to repair it because the frame is in bad shape and even if they are able to fix the frame it will never be the same. Im already up side down on my loan and this accident will make the value of my car even less.
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Old 05-11-2013, 06:00 PM   #7
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Ha that guy driving an 86 pickup truck is sure going to have fun paying for a new imp.
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Old 05-11-2013, 06:06 PM   #8
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yeah he did not even come out to say sorry or anything. He just sat in his car the whole time. Im pretty piss... if they say i have to repair it i might just get a lawyer and tell his insurance to pay off my car loan and total the car.
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Old 05-11-2013, 07:10 PM   #9
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Any chance you took a photo of the inside of the hatch area? I'd be interested in seeing how the cargo space holds up as I have a dog that rides in the back.
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Old 05-11-2013, 09:10 PM   #10
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Wow, that sucks big time.

Initially I thought totaled for sure, but I guess if repairs have to exceed 14k, idk.

Totally understand not wanting it back. Good luck.
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Old 05-11-2013, 09:23 PM   #11
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For it to be totaled the cost of the repairs would have to be at least 14k and my car is still worth 18-20k.
That was before a speeding pick-up wore it as a hood ornament.

What is the repaired value of this car going to be? Simply fixing the car is not making you whole. The collision and repair work will be documented and will degrade the resale value of the car.

A few days ago you had a new car with a clean carfax. Don't accept anything less.
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Old 05-11-2013, 09:27 PM   #12
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Of they don't total it and you do get it fixed. Make sure that you are compensated for lost value from the accident. It affects the resale value of a car when it is in an accident.

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Old 05-12-2013, 12:15 AM   #13
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Hey guys well on Thursday May 9 around 8:20 am I had just got out of work and was going to my chiropractor. I was on I85 and there was traffic ahead and while I was coming to a stop a 1986 Toyota pick up truck was going 80 mph behind me and did not realize traffic ahead and when he finally realized everyone was stopping he could not stop on time and rear ended me at least 60 mph. It was a sad day for me thankfully I am okay. If it was a bigger truck I would of been in a hospital. I thank Subaru for building such a strong car. Here are some pictures of my car....let me know what you guys think is it total or repairable. The insurance is probably gonna try to fix it. I do not want it back knowing that it has been hit so badly. It has hit the frame I looked under and the left rear door can not open with out force.

Hard to say from the pictures exactly how much damage was done, but it's more than the $5-6k that another reply mentioned. The left rear door not opening easily indicates to me that there is more damage to the car than is visible. Looks like a low offset hit, amazing that the rear glass didn't break with the extent of damage to the hatch door. With how the cars today are built, the forces of the impact are directed around the passenger compartment, hence the issue that you're having with the door opening. I'd bet if you looked closely, you'd see rippling in the sheet metal or cracking in the paint either above the door along the side of the roof, or below the doorframe. That's something that won't fix cheaply.

A good body shop can be your best advocate for totaling the car if the insurance refuses to do so. It's likely they will disagree on some items of repair, and if they're willing to go to bat for you, they may be able to negotiate with the insurer to push the damage beyond the totaling point. Likely won't happen, however, if the shop is a preferred shop for the insurer. Your insurance agent/company may also be of help if you disagree with the adjustor for the other company.

Good luck with the resolution of this. Remember that the car can be fixed/replaced, and you can't. Your photos prove this car is one tough little mofo. Do keep us posted on what the outcome is.
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Old 05-12-2013, 10:40 AM   #14
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Good news that you're ok, but sucks about your car. It's pretty much impossible to diagnose damage from pictures alone, so here's to hoping the damage is significant enough for you to get a new car
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Old 05-12-2013, 10:51 AM   #15
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The plastic bumper is quite flexible
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Old 05-12-2013, 11:28 AM   #16
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First, glad to hear you're OK! Back in March, I was rearended in my 2012 sedan. It was minor in that it pushed in and up my rear bumper a bit. The body shop had to replace a bracket on the drivers side and repaint just the plastic bumper cover. The cost to the other guys insurance was a little over $600 plus the cost of a rental car for a couple of days......and that was minor. I would not be surprised if they total yours. Good Luck!!
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Old 05-12-2013, 11:36 AM   #17
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Thanks everyone for the support. Ill update everyone when I hear back from the body shop.
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Old 05-12-2013, 12:30 PM   #18
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First, glad to hear you're OK! Back in March, I was rearended in my 2012 sedan. It was minor in that it pushed in and up my rear bumper a bit. The body shop had to replace a bracket on the drivers side and repaint just the plastic bumper cover. The cost to the other guys insurance was a little over $600 plus the cost of a rental car for a couple of days......and that was minor. I would not be surprised if they total yours. Good Luck!!
Since buying this car I cringe every time I come to a red light or stopped traffic and see some jackass flying up behind me and then smashes on their brakes at the last minute.
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Old 05-12-2013, 03:01 PM   #19
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just wondering as of right now my car is probably only worth 10k with the damaged rear end. If so I know repairs will total up to more then 10k will the insurance value my car as of excellent condition or the damaged value? Sorry if this does not make any sense.
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Old 05-12-2013, 03:29 PM   #20
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just wondering as of right now my car is probably only worth 10k with the damaged rear end. If so I know repairs will total up to more then 10k will the insurance value my car as of excellent condition or the damaged value? Sorry if this does not make any sense.
Having been through the process a few times, the insurance adjuster will put all the pertinent info into their computer about your car, with the condition being based on their assessment of the undamaged areas of the car. More than likely they're going to say your car was in good to excellent condition, based on age alone. If your car had visible condition issues, unrelated to the accident damage, then they might rate the condition lower.

Then they're going to look at what it will take, in their opinion, to repair your car to OEM specifications. It can be subjective in some cases, but in a lot of cases there aren't a lot of variables -- it's either replace, refurbish, or repair, and the costs are all standardized for the year and model of car. It's very similar to the standard shop hours for mechanical repairs that the dealership does -- time is based on what the book says, not the actual (usually shorter) time that the repairs actually take. They're not so much looking at the bottom line when they're doing their estimate, they're methodically going through every damaged area and breaking the work down into the component pieces. If they're good at what they do, it's likely they'll know beforehand by looking at the car if it's a likely total loss or not.

What you have working in your favor is parts aren't cheap, labor isn't cheap, and with today's cars, the damage doesn't usually look as bad as it really is. That damage is gonna add up fast...
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Old 05-13-2013, 10:26 AM   #21
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Well, that sucks, but I'm glad you're okay. Hopefully you'll get a new car out of the deal.

I'm going to second MCarp's question about photos of the inside of the hatch area.

It's reassuring to know that the car can keep its occupants safe even when it's hit at 60mph by a bigger vehicle.
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Old 05-13-2013, 10:55 AM   #22
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I dont have any pics of the inside hatch area.The rear hatch was strong enough to where it would keep the rear passengers safe but remember the car that hit me was a small 86 toyota pick up If it were a bigger truck or car Im pretty sure my car would of been worst. I went to the repair shop today. The estimate guy said the frame did'nt look as bad as he thought but the problem was the cost of parts and labor. The shop would have to use OEM parts only and can be pricey. I'm predicting the cost to repair my car would be between 10k-12k at least. If so I will just take the diminished value check from the insurance and trade the car in.
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Old 05-13-2013, 10:57 AM   #23
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Though the estimate guy just did a look and guessing from the damaged. They havent taken off everything and really look at the frame and all that. Theyll contact me later on after a closer look at everything.
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That car took a huge hit, Glad to know that my passengers can be likely safe.
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Old 05-14-2013, 06:44 PM   #25
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Tell them you will NOT accept salvage yard parts, or environmentally recycled parts as they say. They do that to save costs, atleast State Farm does. Id go ahead and call a lawyer, and get your chiro to document or reg dr to look you over just as a precaution. I was in a roll over and felt fine for a few weeks then the back trouble started. I'll bet they won't total it, and you'll be left with a kinda repaired car. If you accept it that's your trouble. I sure wouldn't, that's your right. Know your rights brother. I'm glad your ok.
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