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Old 08-28-2013, 10:51 AM   #1
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I'm about to help a friend do the 30,000 mile service on hos 2012 Impreza CVT. Looks like it's only change the oil and filter, change the engine air filter, and we're going to drain and fill the front and rear diffs with some fresh gear oil.

Seems almost to simple to be true... Is there anything else that I'm missing? (Yes I searched this forum; yes I looked in the manual. With how many iterations of manual's there have been for other Subaru's I'm just dotting my I's and crossing my T's.)
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Old 08-28-2013, 10:56 AM   #2
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Brake fluid as well should be replaced at 30k:

http://www.cars101.com/subaru/maintenance-2013.html
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Old 08-28-2013, 10:58 AM   #3
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Brake fluid as well should be replaced at 30k:

http://www.cars101.com/subaru/maintenance-2013.html
Thanks for the link! I forgot all about cars101.com...
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Old 08-28-2013, 11:34 AM   #4
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Brake fluid as well should be replaced at 30k:

http://www.cars101.com/subaru/maintenance-2013.html
My rule of thumb is to replace the brake fluid every 2 years, regardless of mileage.
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Old 08-28-2013, 01:40 PM   #5
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Is front and rear diff fluid supposed to be changed at 30k intervals? I don't remember seeing that last time I checked the maintenance booklet. According to cars101 the diff fluid never has to be changed.

Either way, thanks for the info, Im going to change my brake fluid this weekend.
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Old 08-28-2013, 02:01 PM   #6
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what would be the preferred method to change the brake fluid?
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Old 08-28-2013, 02:08 PM   #7
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what would be the preferred method to change the brake fluid?
Most people use a two-person approach (one person stepping on the brake pedal while the other bleeds the brake lines), but I use this instead:

http://www.motiveproducts.com/
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Old 08-28-2013, 02:22 PM   #8
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Most people use a two-person approach (one person stepping on the brake pedal while the other bleeds the brake lines), but I use this instead:

http://www.motiveproducts.com/
That's what I was thinking.

Unrelated to cvt, but is the clutch done the same way?
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Old 08-28-2013, 02:29 PM   #9
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Is front and rear diff fluid supposed to be changed at 30k intervals? I don't remember seeing that last time I checked the maintenance booklet. According to cars101 the diff fluid never has to be changed.

Either way, thanks for the info, Im going to change my brake fluid this weekend.
Its in the notes at the bottom:

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Since a lot of ppl are under the severe driving umbrella, it probably makes sense to do that every 30k
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Old 08-28-2013, 02:57 PM   #10
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That's what I was thinking.

Unrelated to cvt, but is the clutch done the same way?
I've not done the process on the Impreza yet (but I did on my TDI). In looking at the Impreza service manual, the answer appears to be "yes" (as it was on my TDI). The brake fluid and the clutch fluid share the same reservoir, so by using the Motive bleeder on the brake fluid reservoir, it appears that you're pressurizing the hydraulic clutch line too.

I plan to change my Impreza's brake fluid in the spring at the same time I switch from my winter to summer tires. The car will be close to two years old at that point, and since I'll have all four corners of the car lifted with the wheels removed for the tire swap, that's when I like to do brake fluid changes.

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Old 08-28-2013, 04:03 PM   #11
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I've not done the process on the Impreza yet (but I did on my TDI). In looking at the Impreza service manual, the answer appears to be "yes" (as it was on my TDI). The brake fluid and the clutch fluid share the same reservoir, so by using the Motive bleeder on the brake fluid reservoir, it appears that you're pressurizing the hydraulic clutch line too.

I plan to change my Impreza's brake fluid in the spring at the same time I switch from my winter to summer tires. The car will be close to two years old at that point, and since I'll have all four corners of the car lifted with the wheels removed for the tire swap, that's when I like to do brake fluid changes.
thats what I'm thinking too this fall/thanksgiving time

now to find a pressure bleeder than fits VW/Subaru
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Old 08-28-2013, 04:25 PM   #12
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thats what I'm thinking too this fall/thanksgiving time

now to find a pressure bleeder than fits VW/Subaru
I'll be using the Application Guide on the Motive site to determine which adapter is right for the Impreza. I think it's going to be the Ford adapter, but I'll confirm closer to spring when it's nearly time to do the brake fluid bleeding job.

http://motiveproducts.3dcartstores.c...ide_ep_43.html
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Thank you all for your replies! This reminds of old school NASIOC/ i-club days with the amount of helpful non combative replies. You all kind of made my day.
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Old 08-28-2013, 05:27 PM   #14
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Thank you all for your replies! This reminds of old school NASIOC/ i-club days with the amount of helpful non combative replies. You all kind of made my day.
That's because it's not about fuel consumption statistics, vehicle fit/finish, burning oil, or any number of religious lightning-rod issues.

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Old 08-29-2013, 10:26 AM   #15
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Does the coolant get changed at 30k miles? The online service schedule on mysubaru.com seems to indicate that, but it also indicates changing oil every 3750 miles. This differs from my physical owners manual that came with the car, which I haven't checked yet for the coolant change interval. I think the online version is for an older model.
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Does the coolant get changed at 30k miles? The online service schedule on mysubaru.com seems to indicate that, but it also indicates changing oil every 3750 miles. This differs from my physical owners manual that came with the car, which I haven't checked yet for the coolant change interval. I think the online version is for an older model.
This page seems to indicate that coolant can wait for 11 years or 137.5k miles:

http://www.cars101.com/subaru/maintenance-2013.html
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Its in the notes at the bottom:

Since a lot of ppl are under the severe driving umbrella, it probably makes sense to do that every 30k
So for us commuters whos daily drive isn't considered severe, it seems like theres a gray area on when (if ever) to change diff fluid.
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This page seems to indicate that coolant can wait for 11 years or 137.5k miles:

http://www.cars101.com/subaru/maintenance-2013.html
Unless the coolant has been "contaminated" (by water, or via top-up of other brand of coolant).

Even though it says it can last up to 11 years, I might have it changed early. There's enough going on in terms of moisture/humidity that it might be a better safeguard to have it swapped out, especially if it starts to get discoloured. We'll see.
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Old 08-29-2013, 02:43 PM   #19
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So for us commuters whos daily drive isn't considered severe, it seems like theres a gray area on when (if ever) to change diff fluid.
I guess that's true, according to the owner's manual. But I'll probably change mine every 30k miles anyway, even though I don't think my driving conditions are severe, just because I'm a big fan of preventive maintenance.

I already did this job when my car had only 3k miles on it, and was surprised at how dirty the fluid was (especially in the rear diff). Research indicates that it's normal for the rear diff fluid to get cruddy, so I'm not worried about it. But I was glad to get the crud out, just the same.

I think I paid approximately $90 for the Amsoil 75W90 Severe Gear fluid I used. I can afford to throw that much money at the car every 30k miles, just to be safe.
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I guess that's true, according to the owner's manual. But I'll probably change mine every 30k miles anyway, even though I don't think my driving conditions are severe, just because I'm a big fan of preventive maintenance.

I already did this job when my car had only 3k miles on it, and was surprised at how dirty the fluid was (especially in the rear diff). Research indicates that it's normal for the rear diff fluid to get cruddy, so I'm not worried about it. But I was glad to get the crud out, just the same.

I think I paid approximately $90 for the Amsoil 75W90 Severe Gear fluid I used. I can afford to throw that much money at the car every 30k miles, just to be safe.
huh, planned to do it again at 100k since that is what the fluid is good for
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huh, planned to do it again at 100k since that is what the fluid is good for
Is that what Amsoil says? If so, do they also provide different recommendations for normal vs. severe usage?
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Is that what Amsoil says? If so, do they also provide different recommendations for normal vs. severe usage?
normal, 100k. severe, 50k. but they also throw in the CYA of "or follow owners manual, whichever is longer"

I'm going with 100k, 80% of my driving is highway or interstate

http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-produc...ont%2fsvg.aspx

it's rated for 250k in Semi's!
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So for us commuters whos daily drive isn't considered severe, it seems like theres a gray area on when (if ever) to change diff fluid.
SOA told me that ALL of the North American continent is Severe Driving.
I have it in writing. I live 65 miles from saltwater. No snow, light traffic, no mountains, etc. Disney World is apparently in a Severe area.

Also- I'd probably be more worried about the sparkplugs than the coolant.
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Also- I'd probably be more worried about the sparkplugs than the coolant.
Just my 2
What's the worry over the spark plugs, which have a 60k mile replacement interval (without regard to driving severity)?
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Disney World is apparently in a Severe area.
Disney-anything is severe.
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