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Old 05-19-2013, 08:58 PM   #1
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Forgive me if this thread is in the wrong area, but this seemed like the best selection to me.

Looking for some opinions. (I know forums are FULL of them) But looking to get advice from you all given there are those of you out there that have bought both brand new and those that have bought used.

I am looking into buying a new 2014 STi when they become available to build in the spring. Build it and buy from the factory. However, the only thing stopping me is I have always believed and been taught one thing when it comes to car buying. Don't buy brand new, let someone else take the initial loss of value. Now at the same time I have heard Subaru's do not depreciate like most other cars.

What is everyone's opinion? Buy brand new '14 STi or used '12-'13 STi? Have any of you who bought brand new regretted the decision later after the loss in value?


And no this is not my first Subaru, currently driving fully built '04 wrx.
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Old 05-20-2013, 10:00 AM   #2
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It is my opinion that cars in high demand (like the STI/WRX/VW GTI/TDI) depreciate so slowly that you'll pay almost the same amount for used as new.

I say buy new so that you get the full warranty, and so that you can be in control of the break-in process.
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Old 05-20-2013, 10:20 AM   #3
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Those cars get heavily modded, sometime by knowledgeable people others, not so much. If you're not carefully you could end up with a major money pit.

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Old 05-20-2013, 10:39 AM   #4
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get the new model, redesigned, and it will hold more value longer. Of course, you might want to buy the redesigned one a year after launch, so any bugs get worked out.
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Old 05-20-2013, 12:49 PM   #5
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Get the new one. You will have the complete warranty and will know that it wasn't "beaten to hell". The price difference between a new one and a year old model is insignificant when the total picture is considered.
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Old 05-20-2013, 01:18 PM   #6
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get the new model, redesigned, and it will hold more value longer. Of course, you might want to buy the redesigned one a year after launch, so any bugs get worked out.
I was told by the dealership there will not be a hard redesign this model year. The hard redesign would be expected on the 2015 model...?
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Old 05-20-2013, 01:20 PM   #7
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Get the new one. You will have the complete warranty and will know that it wasn't "beaten to hell". The price difference between a new one and a year old model is insignificant when the total picture is considered.
Makes sense. I just have to ask dealership what will void warranty. I will put Coils, wheels, and exhaust on it within few weeks of purchase. Only thing I'm concerned with effecting warranty is exhaust. Any input?
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Old 05-20-2013, 01:36 PM   #8
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Subaru is the one exception IMHO buy new. Unless that is you arent planning on owning it for a long time then go used.
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Old 05-21-2013, 05:48 PM   #9
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Buy new, a lot of people drive STI's hard so you don't know what you're getting. That and a year or two old one might be a lease return so you'd have two possible strikes against it in terms of it being driven hard. The little extra you'll pay for new is worth the peace of mind.
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Old 05-21-2013, 11:36 PM   #10
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Forgive me if this thread is in the wrong area, but this seemed like the best selection to me.

Looking for some opinions. (I know forums are FULL of them) But looking to get advice from you all given there are those of you out there that have bought both brand new and those that have bought used.

I am looking into buying a new 2014 STi when they become available to build in the spring. Build it and buy from the factory. However, the only thing stopping me is I have always believed and been taught one thing when it comes to car buying. Don't buy brand new, let someone else take the initial loss of value. Now at the same time I have heard Subaru's do not depreciate like most other cars.

What is everyone's opinion? Buy brand new '14 STi or used '12-'13 STi? Have any of you who bought brand new regretted the decision later after the loss in value?


And no this is not my first Subaru, currently driving fully built '04 wrx.
Looking at adding a WRX or STi to the 'fleet' in the spring myself (just need some time to learn the MT). Did a little research, and generally these cars hold their value on the used market quite well, and there's little difference in pricing between new and used. As others have noted, you never know what the prior owner did to the car (modifications and/or hard driving), and if they are as fun of a car as everyone says they are, I can't imagine someone getting rid of one that quick anyways, unless they did some less than smart things with the car during their brief ownership.

Heard the 'don't buy new so someone else takes the price hit' argument many times. I drove my last vehicle prior to purchasing the Impreza for 9.5 years, and figure I got my money's worth out of it in the long run. Planning on driving the Impreza for the long run too. The folks who trade in every 3-4 years are the ones who get killed by the price hit.

Sounds like you're doing your homework. For what it's worth, my 2 cents worth is to advise you to buy new.
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Old 05-27-2013, 07:26 PM   #11
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Looking at adding a WRX or STi to the 'fleet' in the spring myself (just need some time to learn the MT). Did a little research, and generally these cars hold their value on the used market quite well, and there's little difference in pricing between new and used. As others have noted, you never know what the prior owner did to the car (modifications and/or hard driving), and if they are as fun of a car as everyone says they are, I can't imagine someone getting rid of one that quick anyways, unless they did some less than smart things with the car during their brief ownership.

Heard the 'don't buy new so someone else takes the price hit' argument many times. I drove my last vehicle prior to purchasing the Impreza for 9.5 years, and figure I got my money's worth out of it in the long run. Planning on driving the Impreza for the long run too. The folks who trade in every 3-4 years are the ones who get killed by the price hit.

Sounds like you're doing your homework. For what it's worth, my 2 cents worth is to advise you to buy new.

Valued statements, makes sense. Pretty sure I'm going to do brand new, if all things go right for me in the near future. I also agree that Subaru's are an exception and hold their value very well.
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Old 06-24-2013, 12:39 AM   #12
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You never know how hard someone might have pushed a car like the sti. I say try to go into a new sti, if not try to go into a very very lightly modded sti with low miles.
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Old 07-03-2013, 04:49 PM   #13
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I bought mine used. And I think it was ragged on pretty bad. Granded mines not an sTi nor new, I have no idea how hard the car was driven. But with the transmission issues I've been having and the fact I don't launch my car, I'd say it was beat on.
If I were you I would buy brand new so you know exactly what your getting. Fresh everything, no "kid" mods or hard driving.
But it's all in what you want. You gotta do what's best for you.

Ending the story on a better note, I have minor knock counts and currently beefing up my Trans!
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Old 07-05-2013, 07:26 PM   #14
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Forgive me if this thread is in the wrong area, but this seemed like the best selection to me.

Looking for some opinions. (I know forums are FULL of them) But looking to get advice from you all given there are those of you out there that have bought both brand new and those that have bought used.

I am looking into buying a new 2014 STi when they become available to build in the spring. Build it and buy from the factory. However, the only thing stopping me is I have always believed and been taught one thing when it comes to car buying. Don't buy brand new, let someone else take the initial loss of value. Now at the same time I have heard Subaru's do not depreciate like most other cars.

What is everyone's opinion? Buy brand new '14 STi or used '12-'13 STi? Have any of you who bought brand new regretted the decision later after the loss in value?

And no this is not my first Subaru, currently driving fully built '04 wrx.
I have bought new and used, granted my used was a 94 wrx and needlessless to say, it was quite different than my new 2013 wrx.
As I do recall on the lot there was a barley used 2012 (it was black!!!!) .and if was roughly 2500 less on the sticker. The difference in my financing for the used vs new was what pushed me to buy the new wrx.
I think it's a gamble. For me, it was the benefit of the warranty, the financing, although I will warn you: you need to be a hell of a negotiator to get the price down on those cars new! And as previously mentioned, there is no real way to tell if someone has been good about changing oil, or other common sense Maintenance.
My older wrx was an angel, but I had the benefit of knowing the only one other previous owner really well.
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Old 07-17-2013, 10:27 AM   #15
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Sorry for reviving the thread but Ive always been one to avoid used performance cars. Just knowing how hard a i drive them, Id like to be the only one driving it.
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