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Old 05-20-2013, 09:03 PM   #1
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What are your thoughts regarding a protune under 1,000 miles? I have the opportunity to have my 13 STI tuned professionally from a very reputable tuner, but my odometer is currently at 43 miles.

If anyone else has taken this route please let me know your results. Thanks.
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Old 05-20-2013, 09:19 PM   #2
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It's your car, do what you want.

If you're uncomfortable with it, then don't do it. If you want more power and don't care about possible consequences, do it.

I always recommend driving the car hard for a break in, but that's just me.
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Old 05-20-2013, 09:19 PM   #3
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Why can't you wait until after the break in?
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Old 05-20-2013, 09:26 PM   #4
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I intended to wait until after the break-in, but the tuner is coming in from out of town and only comes around a few times each year. This may be my best opportunity this year.
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Old 05-20-2013, 09:27 PM   #5
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Ask the tuner.

Personally I'd wait.
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Old 05-20-2013, 09:38 PM   #6
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I'd wait a little. How far is he if you drive to him? I know someone who thinks a town 40 miles away is like going to the moon.
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Old 05-20-2013, 09:41 PM   #7
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OT: Is it STi Mikey as the tuner?
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Old 05-20-2013, 09:41 PM   #8
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I live in Florida. The tuner lives in New Jersey. Definitely not driving distance.
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Old 05-20-2013, 09:42 PM   #9
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OT: Is it STi Mikey as the tuner?
We have a winner!!!
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Old 05-20-2013, 09:44 PM   #10
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We have a winner!!!


He just tuned my brothers car the other day. And he lives in CT afaik and not Jersey.

Like you said, he goes down there a few times each year. Just wait.
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Old 05-20-2013, 09:47 PM   #11
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He just tuned my brothers car the other day. And he lives in CT afaik and not Jersey.

Like you said, he goes down there a few times each year. Just wait.
CT. I am mistaken.

Yeah he does visit a few times, so it's not like this is my ONLY chance. But passing on a STI MIKEY tune is hard.
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Old 05-20-2013, 10:29 PM   #12
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It's your car, do what you want.

If you're uncomfortable with it, then don't do it. If you want more power and don't care about possible consequences, do it.

I always recommend driving the car hard for a break in, but that's just me.
Same goes for me for break-ins.

Up to you, OP. Whether you wait or not as soon as the ecu is flashed you're setting yourself up for powertrain claim denials.
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Old 05-21-2013, 09:26 AM   #13
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I'd wait for the break in at a minimum. You're nuts if you don't, IMO.

Throwing the warranty out the window is another thing... but I can see why people don't wait for that to be up. At least wait 1,000 miles - your engine will thank you down the line.
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Old 05-21-2013, 11:42 AM   #14
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I appreciate everyone's opinion. If anyone cares, I have decided to wait until after the break-in. I'll get the protune once I am ready for Stage 2.
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Old 05-21-2013, 03:58 PM   #15
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IMO, you made the right choice, Tristan. Drive the car with the stock tune for a few thousand miles. This way you break it in properly and make it easy on yourself if any factory defects show up and you need to bring it in for service/repair.

The protune is well worth the wait ;-)
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i subscribe to the break in hard theory. the point is to seat the rings if i am not mistaken. Following that logic the rings would ideally be seated at the max psi they will see. therefore breaking in hard will break it in to be driven at that level. if you break it in soft so the rings seat at lower pressures, then raise the pressure, it will be more stress than it was broken in at/for and not as ideal.

also, the engine is broken in long before 1000 miles

I realize that is a GROSS oversimplification but i am trying to make simple analogies here

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Old 05-21-2013, 04:19 PM   #17
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^ hence the reason I threw stage 1 on my car as soon as I bought it. That and I hate the lean AFRs from CL/OL
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Old 05-21-2013, 05:15 PM   #18
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Yup, the only reason to wait is if you want to see if anything goes wrong with the motor while still safe for warranty claims on it.

A good protune will break a motor in the same as a stock tune. How you drive during the 1st 1K is the variable.
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i subscribe to the break in hard theory. the point is to seat the rings if i am not mistaken. Following that logic the rings would ideally be seated at the max psi they will see. therefore breaking in hard will break it in to be driven at that level. if you break it in soft so the rings seat at lower pressures, then raise the pressure, it will be more stress than it was broken in at/for and not as ideal.

also, the engine is broken in long before 1000 miles

I realize that is a GROSS oversimplification but i am trying to make simple analogies here
I agree 1000%. Granny break-ins only create a lifelong oil burner.
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Old 05-21-2013, 06:26 PM   #20
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Yup, the only reason to wait is if you want to see if anything goes wrong with the motor while still safe for warranty claims on it.

A good protune will break a motor in the same as a stock tune. How you drive during the 1st 1K is the variable.
Any sort of tune will void a warranty.
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