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Old 06-26-2013, 06:27 PM   #51
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WOW. Great design. Even if the STi concept were made into a hatch, I doubt it would look as good as the Mazda3. It's too bad no AWD.
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Old 06-26-2013, 06:42 PM   #52
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Just a good design, a sign of good things to come
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Old 06-26-2013, 06:47 PM   #53
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http://www.thecarconnection.com/over...da_mazda3_2014

Wow - Cd of 0.255 in the sedan.

Also floor-hinged accelerator is cool.
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Old 06-26-2013, 08:51 PM   #54
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I think it looks way more like this:
I see the inspiration.
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Old 06-26-2013, 09:34 PM   #55
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Old 06-26-2013, 10:15 PM   #56
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The sloping rear window will cut down on cargo room, FWIW.
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Old 06-27-2013, 12:49 AM   #57
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The new design is great. My wife loves her 3 with the 2.5, but I wish it had about 50 more horses. Mazda will have my money if they can put 220-230hp into a 3 sedan. Do it....Do it.
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Old 06-27-2013, 12:52 AM   #58
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The sloping rear window will cut down on cargo room, FWIW.
And increases on mpg. At least based on prius design.
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Old 06-27-2013, 01:19 AM   #59
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I worked at a Mazda dealership for 5 years.. Mazda3's are the best seller, and need the most service work. Not enough of the current body style on the road with high mileage yet, but they seem to be more reliable than the first gen. Every single one of the first gen will break the engine and trans mounts, right front strut leaks, (left front not nearly as often), front lower control arm bushings break, timing cover oil leaks, dash cracks (new body style has a soft dash - which warps above the mid display..) rear swaybar end link nuts back off and destroy the threads.. a/c compressors implode.. etc etc. Great for the service department, bad for the owners.
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Old 06-27-2013, 02:19 AM   #60
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Nice use of the Kodo language. I'm really looking forward to the sedan version, and ideally a ms3 variant.
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Old 06-27-2013, 02:21 AM   #61
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I worked at a Mazda dealership for 5 years.. Mazda3's are the best seller, and need the most service work. Not enough of the current body style on the road with high mileage yet, but they seem to be more reliable than the first gen. Every single one of the first gen will break the engine and trans mounts, right front strut leaks, (left front not nearly as often), front lower control arm bushings break, timing cover oil leaks, dash cracks (new body style has a soft dash - which warps above the mid display..) rear swaybar end link nuts back off and destroy the threads.. a/c compressors implode.. etc etc. Great for the service department, bad for the owners.
We had a 2006 for 5 years and it was trouble free. I guess we got lucky. But I don't remember it doing all that poorly in reliability surveys? I was under the impression that the first gen 6 was more problematic.
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Old 06-27-2013, 03:22 AM   #62
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Two 3's for me, an '08 MS3, and my current '12 Skyactiv 3. Both have been excellent.
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Old 06-27-2013, 08:39 AM   #63
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We had a 2004 Mazda 3 and it was a brilliant little car. I am a big fan of mazda. They know what they want to be and they are sticking to it.
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Old 06-27-2013, 10:46 AM   #64
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I bought a 2011 Mazda3 for my daughter.....52,000 absolutely trouble-free miles. I just put a deposit on a 2013 Mazdaspeed3 yesterday for the wife. I'm not a big fan of the new silhouette of the new design.
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Old 06-27-2013, 11:42 AM   #65
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I worked at a Mazda dealership for 5 years.. Mazda3's are the best seller, and need the most service work. Not enough of the current body style on the road with high mileage yet, but they seem to be more reliable than the first gen. Every single one of the first gen will break the engine and trans mounts, right front strut leaks, (left front not nearly as often), front lower control arm bushings break, timing cover oil leaks, dash cracks (new body style has a soft dash - which warps above the mid display..) rear swaybar end link nuts back off and destroy the threads.. a/c compressors implode.. etc etc. Great for the service department, bad for the owners.
Had an '05 Mazda 3 S Hatchback.

-Replaced passenger side engine mount twice, eventually put an MS3 mount on it.
-Replaced driver side upper transmission mount for preventative maintenance at 50K miles.
-Replaced purge valve solenoid at 60K miles.
-Replaced thermostat at 80K miles.

Did all that in my drive way. Really easy car to work on compared to my WRX.

Other than the above and regular maintenance, I put 88K miles on it without any drama. Great car, would've driven it across the country without hesitation.
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Old 06-27-2013, 12:53 PM   #66
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I see we have a lot of fans of the Mazda3. The first gen car we had was such a well sorted car for a daily driver. Ride/handling balance, steering, brake feel, shifter, all of it. It was like a FWD 3 series. And now it even looks fantastic. I feel like you no longer need to spend a lot of money to drive something very satisfying. Competition is great.
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Old 06-27-2013, 12:57 PM   #67
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Oh, most certainly. Brake feel and steering feel on my Mz3 were WORLDS better than my WRX. Interior was nicer too, with more soft plastics.
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Old 06-27-2013, 01:33 PM   #68
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Great looking hatch, hopefully Mazda will do some decent rustproofing for once. It's one of their biggest downfalls in my opinion.
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Old 06-27-2013, 01:34 PM   #69
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I think it looks terrible from that angle. Other angles look nice, but this looks like a Kia that is trying too hard.
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Old 06-27-2013, 01:40 PM   #70
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And increases on mpg. At least based on prius design.
Yeah, I don't doubt that it plays a role in its Cd being what it is.
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Old 06-27-2013, 02:11 PM   #71
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The Speed 3 should look good. The Focus ST and GTI will be in trouble.
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Old 06-27-2013, 11:18 PM   #72
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I've always thought that if Mazda built an AWD non-turbo Mazda3 (let alone an AWD MS3), the Impreza would have a real competitor. Don't see it happening any time soon though..
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Old 06-28-2013, 01:53 AM   #73
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Based on auto show pics, it does seem like the rear belt-line is way too high. My daughter could hardly see out of this thing. That's a bit disappointing, but it still looks good. Given our family needs we would probably prefer the excellent 6, but for younger crowd or as a commuter this has a lot of potential. I'm looking forward to the reviews.
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Old 06-28-2013, 02:40 AM   #74
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I think it looks really good, although the front over hang is a bit excessive. Love the interior. Definitely want to test drive this. Also hoping the diesel makes it to the U.S. Good job Mazda. Now if only Subaru can design such good looking interiors. SIGH
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Old 06-28-2013, 03:06 AM   #75
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Sedan looks awesome too.
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