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Old 06-06-2013, 01:38 PM   #26
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What's going on here? Is someone using Youtube to figure out how to replace an axle?

If so... well, I think you should look into finding someone with a lot of mechanical expertise willing to help you guys out - at least at the track if nothing else. Should anything go wrong, you'll want to have someone handy-the more the better. (we have two mechanical engineers on my team and I would not be racing if they weren't on the team)

You'll want to get the service manual or Chilton/haynes guide at the very least.

A lot of teams show up completely out of their element when something goes wrong, and spend most, if not all, of the weekend working on the car instead of racing it. You don't want to be those guys.

Also, do as much research as you can on what you'll need at the track so you can minimize the stress. Find out if the track has fuel, or if you have to get your own (it's usually cheaper if you go off site). You'll need a few 5 gal jugs - more the better.
I got the same question when I posted that on Facebook.

I believe when that picture was taken we were sitting there waiting for some PB Blaster to take effect and looking up some tips on how to get stuck bolts to come loose. Our (old and electric) compressor that we use in our garage isn't powerful enough to turn a lot of stuck bolts and it was something like 10PM so we didn't want to fire up the gas powered compressor (that would wake up our neighbors and my dad once he got home and went to bed) that would be able to power the gun to turn the bolts. We ended up using a breaker bar to get the bolts off (camber bolt and the one below it) which is what I would normally use but it wasn't in its normal spot in my garage and I had to wait for my dad to get back to find it so we were pursuing other methods on YouTube...none of which we didn't know unfortunately, and the PB blaster did nothing

I think we'll be okay with the mechanical bit, my dad used to be the head mechanic at a Subaru dealer here and has a ton of tools and expertise to share, he said he'd come to the track with us to work in the pits if we wanted as well.

I will look into the track but we have a lot of gas cans around my house, we'll probably fill them all up and bring them to the track to fill our "quick-fill" jugs in the pits, we may end up making a fuel run or two, but that's not a big deal, I've heard some teams just drive the car off the track to an offsite gas station sometimes as well...but I don't think we'll have to do that.

As for testing, we've been driving it around a bit to figure out what needs replacing and such, so far we've found a few minor items, the axle I found needed to be replaced after going under the car to search for a connector that was unconnected in the engine bay. The Auto-X is a good idea, it would also give the other guys a chance to practice some of their newly developed skills with a 5 speed We know the car has one sort of major wiring issue, but as long as the track is dry it's not an issue, but that's something I'll be looking at tracking down in the next week or two. The car is now ready to go to my cage builder but he's busy until after NEFR.
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Old 06-06-2013, 02:30 PM   #27
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We ended up using a breaker bar to get the bolts off (camber bolt and the one below it) which is what I would normally use but it wasn't in its normal spot in my garage
You can use your jack handle usually - if it's a 2 piece design - slide that over your ratchet.

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I think we'll be okay with the mechanical bit, my dad used to be the head mechanic at a Subaru dealer here and has a ton of tools and expertise to share, he said he'd come to the track with us to work in the pits if we wanted as well.
Good to hear. You WILL want him there.

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I've heard some teams just drive the car off the track to an offsite gas station sometimes as well.
Not a good idea.
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Old 06-06-2013, 03:33 PM   #28
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You can use your jack handle usually - if it's a 2 piece design - slide that over your ratchet.



Good to hear. You WILL want him there.



Not a good idea.
The breaker bar did just fine, the jack handle is a good trick to keep in the back of my head, we have a piece of metal we slide over it as well in our garage, but that might be handy at the track!

Yeah, we're not letting him stay home, he will definitely be attending, and the gas station thing was just something I saw a picture of...we'll have fuel cans at the track so we won't be doing that. I just thought it was kind of funny
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Old 06-13-2013, 12:34 PM   #29
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Heading out to Summit Point, WV tomorrow for the Lemons: Capital Offense race.

Turtle (Mitsubishi) Eclipse of the Heart



That's a pic from our first race with that car. The white bunny on the bumper is now black (we use it to wipe off the dipstick), no headlights, the turtle now faces the back (better aero), and we have a hole cut in the hood for better cooling.

Also has metal grating/mesh on the bumper to protect the radiator/oil cooler from rocks. Found out the hard way on that one.

So don't forget to add that to your build.
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Old 06-13-2013, 06:33 PM   #30
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You guys are going to have a blast! We're bringing along two new guys that have some track day experience, but no wheel-to-wheel experience, at the Buttonwillow, CA race at the end of the month. I think it's going to be eye-opening for them.

The closing speeds between the faster guys and the slower guys is pretty awesome, so be prepared for that.

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Here's a fun 3-way battle I had at Sonoma one year. Pretty fun stuff!

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Old 06-13-2013, 09:16 PM   #31
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You guys are going to have a blast! We're bringing along two new guys that have some track day experience, but no wheel-to-wheel experience, at the Buttonwillow, CA race at the end of the month. I think it's going to be eye-opening for them.

The closing speeds between the faster guys and the slower guys is pretty awesome, so be prepared for that.

Gary

Here's a fun 3-way battle I had at Sonoma one year. Pretty fun stuff!

24 Hours of Lemons - Infineon Raceway - March 27, 2011 - YouTube
THATS FREAKIN' AWESOME!!!! I love this!! makes me want to leave the 2012 as a DD, and go get an $500 junker!!... guilt free modding!!!
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Old 06-14-2013, 02:07 AM   #32
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So, right now a few things that are on our list of stuff to do are...

Finding somebody to swap our Forester struts/springs for WRX struts/springs with (let us know if you want to lift your WRX!).

Upgrading to some STi brembos, better pads and rotors, and SS lines.

Getting a roll cage installed (chose a builder, just waiting for a time slot to open up, should be after NEFR).

Selling what we can from the interior.

Fixing the electrical issue with limp mode randomly engaging in the wet.

Diagnosing another electrical system issue, either something is draining the battery when we leave it overnight, our brand new battery is crap, or our alternator is dead. My bet is the alternator but we'll find out soon.

Seems easy enough!
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So, right now a few things that are on our list of stuff to do are...

Finding somebody to swap our Forester struts/springs for WRX struts/springs with (let us know if you want to lift your WRX!).

Upgrading to some STi brembos, better pads and rotors, and SS lines.

Getting a roll cage installed (chose a builder, just waiting for a time slot to open up, should be after NEFR).

Selling what we can from the interior.

Fixing the electrical issue with limp mode randomly engaging in the wet.

Diagnosing another electrical system issue, either something is draining the battery when we leave it overnight, our brand new battery is crap, or our alternator is dead. My bet is the alternator but we'll find out soon.

Seems easy enough!
I would put your first and second items as absolute last, and get the other stuff done first.

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Old 06-14-2013, 02:25 AM   #34
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I would put your first and second items as absolute last, and get the other stuff done first.

Gary
Oh, definitely, the list was in no real order of importance, just things that came to my mind as I wrote them down.

We also need to decide on a theme and design our car.

Lot's to do, we're getting there!
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Old 06-14-2013, 02:42 AM   #35
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We also need to decide on a theme and design our car.
Last year we did Soylent Green Eggs and Spam. I think we dated ourselves a bit with that one....

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THATS FREAKIN' AWESOME!!!! I love this!! makes me want to leave the 2012 as a DD, and go get an $500 junker!!... guilt free modding!!!
In the rain the following year...


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Look forward to seeing you guys out on track! I always appreciate seeing Subies out there. LeMons needs more of them.

Crazy ish happened to my team (87 Alfa Romeo Milano, Pro-Crash-Duh-Nation) at Summit Point this past weekend. Nailed a deer early Saturday and the camera on the boat car managed to capture this amazing still shot, which looks fake:



And the in-car video:
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Just a reminder that reinforcing your windshield is not a bad idea! We got lucky with how high the little guy jumped.
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I liked your fix. Where'd you guys end up?

We missed out on winning B-class when our radiator cap came loose and we lost all our coolant w/30 min to go. Ended up 5th in B.

Took home trophy for Best Team Name:

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I liked your fix. Where'd you guys end up?

We missed out on winning B-class when our radiator cap came loose and we lost all our coolant w/30 min to go. Ended up 5th in B.

Took home trophy for Best Team Name:
We ended up 33rd I think. The "Mad Max" windshield fix was a huge hit with Jay Lamm. Your team name is great. We ended up with the "I Got Screwed Trophy."



That was the bottom of our fuel/pitstop cart Between the deer, the transmission blowing, and failing rear calipers, we got seriously bent over!

Hopefully this Forester team won't have to experience that. But, it's nice to a receive an award for it (?) ha.
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We've decided our theme is going to be a logging truck...

We still need a name, but we're getting there
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it's nice to a receive an award for it (?) ha.
Our award definitely helped with the sting of DNFing.

We've never sniffed a podium in these races, so to be so close to winning, we were pretty bummed to have screwed ourselves. A ziptie on the coolant cap was all the stood in our way, and now we might have to rebuild an engine. Ouch! But at least we're getting better.

Here's a clip I threw together from the Youtube footage:


You guys got lucky that that happened at a slow corner. If that had been on a straight - could have been a lot worse.
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Old 06-20-2013, 01:06 AM   #42
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Damn, I saw that gif in the derp thread and wondered what it was from.
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How's the deer?
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According to the corner workers, he ran off into the woods alive and well.
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That makes that still photo of the deer looking at the camera that much more awesome!
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I saw this in person this weekend. Brilliant!
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Sending this baby to the cage builders next week. On the way down we're getting a seat for it too!
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So, right now a few things that are on our list of stuff to do are...

Upgrading to some STi brembos, better pads and rotors, and SS lines.
Sorry, how does this fit into the budget rules of Lemons?
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Brakes are part of the safety equipment allowance. I think Chump is the one that has the 2x swept area rule. I'd suggest painting them black however to keep attention to a minimum.
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