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Old 05-27-2013, 01:11 AM   #1
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Old 05-28-2013, 03:07 PM   #2
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I should be there looking forward to getting back in the autocross scene.
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Old 05-28-2013, 03:40 PM   #3
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Don't think I'll have time to put tires on the car. Rears are barely holding air after a few Tanacross burnouts
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Old 05-28-2013, 08:05 PM   #4
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I'm planning on being there.
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Old 05-29-2013, 01:54 AM   #5
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Don't think I'll have time to put tires on the car. Rears are barely holding air after a few Tanacross burnouts
I just watched that video, were those tires new to begin with?

I will be there, can't wait to see what I can do with my improved setup.
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Old 05-29-2013, 03:41 AM   #6
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Yes, I put 73 miles on them. A trip to and from Tok and the rest was racing. The rears turned into goop after getting hot and melted away. They were to the wear bars before I did the burnouts.

Some of that video was in 3rd gear almost at the rev limiter, speedo was reading 120-130.. that's how greasy they were getting!

The set I ran at last year's Tanacross barely lasted last summer, were slicks when I parked the car for winter. The front have held up ok though.
Going to be looking for something better, may just run slicks all the time and not deal with road tires.

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I just watched that video, were those tires new to begin with?

I will be there, can't wait to see what I can do with my improved setup.

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Old 06-02-2013, 11:21 AM   #7
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Course is set, registration opens at 8am, come early so you can walk the course and kick off some of the gravel
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Old 06-02-2013, 09:43 PM   #8
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Had a good time out there today. Putting a track together on paper is one thing. Pulling it off when you are actually out there on the tarmac is another thing all together. I hope people enjoyed the course. It is sure more difficult than it looks.

I'm wiped out. A nice cold beer never tasted so good this evening. I sincerely appreciate everyone who showed in less than favorable conditions.

I had fun, did my best, and look forward to having one of these events go off without inclement weather, hopefully next weekend.

Congrats to the winners and podium finishers.
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Old 06-02-2013, 09:46 PM   #9
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Old 06-03-2013, 11:40 AM   #10
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Turned out to be a pretty good day. The wet and the course kicked my butt first half of day, but I managed to pull myself together and get a good run on my last run. It was nice to be done by about 4pm too. Looking forward to next week.
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Old 06-03-2013, 04:41 PM   #11
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Turned out to be a pretty good day. The wet and the course kicked my butt first half of day, but I managed to pull myself together and get a good run on my last run. It was nice to be done by about 4pm too. Looking forward to next week.
Better than the opposite, started strong and got worse as the day went on. I did set my fast time last but collected a cone and immediately dropped from 3rd to 5th in one fell swoop.

That is part of what I love about autocross. It all comes down to that one best run...and it ain't over UNTIL its over.
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Old 06-03-2013, 08:54 PM   #12
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Yeah, definitely. My last (Bartlett) event, my best run was my first one. That stung a little. hahaha.
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Old 06-04-2013, 08:02 PM   #13
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Here's a video of my fastest (last) run: 60.8xx


Lots of little mistakes. :|
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Old 06-04-2013, 09:34 PM   #14
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Here's a video of my fastest (last) run: 60.8xx

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-JNwM0tRlg

Lots of little mistakes. :|
Still faster than me, I couldn't find a groove anywhere seemed every time I tried to change a line or section it either went wrong or I ruined it by making a different mistake elsewhere.
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Old 06-04-2013, 09:42 PM   #15
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Yeah, that happens a lot. Many times have I worked to fix or change a spot only to mess-up where I was (thought I was) doing well. Each time you change something, it changes your line that effects the next spot, which effects the next spot, then the next, ect., so it's easy to have a chain reaction. The key is seat time, and learning where you do things well and where there can be improvement. Sometimes people concentrate on the little (perceived) mistakes and are missing the bigger ones. Just keep at it, and concentrate on one 'issue' at a time. Trying to do too many things at once can have an opposite effect because it gets to spastic and things change much to quickly to fully adjust to the new line/positioning.

I had a hard time getting it right too. The course was tight, tricky and there was a lot going on, everywhere all the time. It wasn't like previous courses where a person could relax for a second, there were no 'easy' parts. Just a matter of seat time and knowing what and how to fix the larger issues.
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Old 06-05-2013, 01:55 AM   #16
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Yea exactly my problem was the course for sure, because I started finding "imaginary" lines to take but found my self brake steering like a noob instead of staying smooth and keep constant speed. I still feel like I'm years and many more hours of seat time behind you guys but the young gun in me wants to show an old dog new tricks maybe next weekend I can find my medium and really be competitive like the following weeks.
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Old 06-05-2013, 03:34 AM   #17
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I had a hard time getting it right too. The course was tight, tricky and there was a lot going on, everywhere all the time. It wasn't like previous courses where a person could relax for a second, there were no 'easy' parts. Just a matter of seat time and knowing what and how to fix the larger issues.
That was exactly what I was after with the course. If any of us are going to grow as drivers, you have to keep pushing. Why keep doing easy courses that aren't a real challenge? Isn't it better to progress by tasking yourself with hard problems instead of continuing to master the same old thing over and over? I wanted it tight and busy, no where to relax.

It was my first attempt. AS I mentioned before, the drawing on paper is one thing. Getting those concepts across in a language with cones that others are going to be able to read is another thing all together. I am certain it will get easier in subsequent attempts.

I was actually impressed with how tight the groups were top to bottom. Not as huge a spread as I was anticipating. Experience was definitely rewarded in the end.

Honestly, I was so tired by the 2nd set of runs, I was making silly mistakes. Instead of attacking with the pavement being warmer, I was hitting cones being sloppy. A late evening going away party the night before and an early show to setup in the driving rain took their toll after a 80 hour surgery week. Yep, I'm an old dog.


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Yea exactly my problem was the course for sure, because I started finding "imaginary" lines to take but found my self brake steering like a noob instead of staying smooth and keep constant speed. I still feel like I'm years and many more hours of seat time behind you guys but the young gun in me wants to show an old dog new tricks maybe next weekend I can find my medium and really be competitive like the following weeks.
I've really enjoyed seeing you succeed Jeff. You shouldn't feel like you took a step backwards this past weekend. I think it is more you are being too hard on yourself.

The first two events of the season were kind of a wash for many of us.

The first event had me, Jammer, Jake, and Ryan all running in the first run group at near freezing temps. The group you guys were in was about 20 degrees warmer. That has a huge effect on times. None of us got a second set of runs. That is the luck of the draw though. Not taking anything away from your performance or Will's. You were both on the gas that day.

Same with last event. The ice melt was something none of us could control. There was a literal stream running down both long slaloms by the time the afternoon runs for my group were taking place. Those weren't there in full force for the early run groups. Not complaining, just explaining. Again, that is the luck of the draw.

Just like this past event with the downpour most of the day, luck of the draw. Eventually, we will get a dry event. I relish that day.

One small piece of advice, for many of the younger guns. It is good to have passion for this sport but keep it fun. If you aren't having fun…you're trying too hard and being results oriented.

If I know I drove as hard as I could and still ended up tenth, against better equipment or better drivers, I'd be pleased. I gave it my best with what I had to use that day.

If you win easily, with minimal effort, trust me, it isn't as valued a win. Especially after the 5th or so such win.

When you come out on top, after a lengthy and blow for blow battle, when you know you've eek'd out the last 1/10th from your machine and yourself….then you have something to be truly proud of.

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Old 06-05-2013, 05:46 AM   #18
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I agree I am really hard on myself but that's just how I improve its been two days and I still am imagining the course and seeing the lines I should have taken and where I should have braked earlier etc... I just have a goal I've set for myself and I don't want one poor performance to get in the way of that. This is probably my last summer in Alaska and I wanna leave here with all the knowledge and experience I can. And a trophy saying I at least made it this far in three years of autox with some of the most talented drivers I know. I don't mean to come across as a punk kid or arrogant but I expected more of myself this weekend was all. I hope no one took my attitude at the end personal or kiddish it was more of me just analyzing myself. But I will agree that your course design all though tough and very tight ( and I will curse you for making it such a pain in my a**) was still fun and a great learning experience at then end.
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I will agree that your course design all though tough and very tight ( and I will curse you for making it such a pain in my a**) was still fun and a great learning experience at then end.
High praise indeed!

Pretty sure you are leading the street mod class at this phase.
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Old 06-05-2013, 10:28 AM   #20
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I know I'm not leading hahaha in a couple of years I'm hoping ill be just as good or better only way I'm going to do that is practice and to make it to every event :-p plus advice from the vets
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High praise indeed!

Pretty sure you are leading the street mod class at this phase.
I'm not paying attention to points yet its way to early to be worried about that yet because while I'm home on leave I leave a big window of opportunity for someone because ill miss an event so trying to not focus on points and just doing my best and winning overall really!!
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Old 06-05-2013, 07:30 PM   #22
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It's easy to lose sight of how far you've progressed when looking at how far you have to go. So, don't lose sight of progress made because it shows improvement and that's something to be proud of.
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Old 06-05-2013, 07:38 PM   #23
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It's easy to lose sight of how far you've progressed when looking at how far you have to go. So, don't lose sight of progress made because it shows improvement and that's something to be proud of.
Truer words HAVE been spoken. But this is pretty damn close.

After racing for 20+ years now, I continue to learn something every time I put my helmets on.
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It's easy to lose sight of how far you've progressed when looking at how far you have to go. So, don't lose sight of progress made because it shows improvement and that's something to be proud of.
Thanks Damien that actually makes a lot of sense and deffinetly means a lot when ya think about it.
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Old 06-05-2013, 09:40 PM   #25
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High praise indeed!

Pretty sure you are leading the street mod class at this phase.
Indeed! But beware, this guy is hunting him done!
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