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Old 06-21-2013, 04:41 AM   #76
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Or just finally fork the money over for a cage?

It's a GTR, not hard to get into 10s so you might as well expect that if you go further you'll need one.
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Old 06-21-2013, 01:19 PM   #77
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Ya I corny get any traction on the launch my tires are toast lol next year ill have better tires and a meth kit and bed need to find the sweet spot in shifting but I think auto x is way better suited for my car I'd like to get into the mid 12's and ill be happy need to save the money for the house for furniture and other items
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Or just finally fork the money over for a cage?

It's a GTR, not hard to get into 10s so you might as well expect that if you go further you'll need one.
It ain't that easy...
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Old 06-21-2013, 07:21 PM   #79
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It ain't that easy...
Ain't easy what? To get into 10s with a GTR? Or obtaining a cage for him?
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Ain't easy what? To get into 10s with a GTR? Or obtaining a cage for him?
Making 10's... with a cage!
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Ain't no sweat for a GTR. Good Tune, launch control and bolt ons and say hello to waving kitty. The main setback is limited market and high R&D costs for parts.

Not hard. Plenty of data to support it. They ain't subarus.
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Old 06-21-2013, 08:29 PM   #82
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The main setback is limited market and high R&D costs for parts.
^^^This is why it isn't easy... at the end of the day most things are possible with no budget constraints.

The engine of the GTR says "HELL YES!!!" the tranny and other bits need a some extra attention to be drag worthy.

Don't forget, we've seen at least 3 of the GTRs up here need major tranny services.

And you're right on with the Subies... You Evo Snob
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Ain't easy what? To get into 10s with a GTR? Or obtaining a cage for him?
A cage, especially in a street car that you want to remain a street car. Even the most basic cage that will pass tech for those speeds requires drilling over a dozen holes, and completely disassembling the interior.
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A cage, especially in a street car that you want to remain a street car. Even the most basic cage that will pass tech for those speeds requires drilling over a dozen holes, and completely disassembling the interior.
Don't know.. on a newer car I can see a serious issue. I am toying with the idea of a bolt in for the 'Rado. Wheel-2-wheel 2 weekends a year, Daily drive the rest.
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Old 06-22-2013, 01:44 AM   #85
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It ain't that easy...
Ahh it is that easy! I already broke 10s last year on pump gas low boost, street tires, oem rims, full interior, half a tank of gas, no launch either with straight flat footing in and that was just the very first run out before I got the boot so I wasn't able to run again for a quicker time. I don't know of any other imports in the 10s in street trim in AK.

For me this year its 9s without a doubt at 155 plus on pump and if I source up the funds for 18 inch rims with DR I'll do a race gas tune and shoot for 8s @ 165 plus using BOTL.
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Ahh it is that easy!


I didn't mean it wasn't easy to break 10s. Hell, the new GT-Rs run 10s out of the box.
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A cage, especially in a street car that you want to remain a street car. Even the most basic cage that will pass tech for those speeds requires drilling over a dozen holes, and completely disassembling the interior.
Ah yes you are correct. A legitimate cage that actually meet safety regulations is a pain. Don't think many realize that bolt ins are about as worthless as harness bars. Don't have a helmet and you'll probably die or suffer serious brain damage in an accident. Of course probably would happen with both styles but least the actual reinforced cage won't have the tendency to crumble inwards as much. Mostly just have to worry about your head flippity floppin.

Sorry wasn't sure which you meant but I do agree.

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^^^This is why it isn't easy... at the end of the day most things are possible with no budget constraints.

The engine of the GTR says "HELL YES!!!" the tranny and other bits need a some extra attention to be drag worthy.

Don't forget, we've seen at least 3 of the GTRs up here need major tranny services.

And you're right on with the Subies... You Evo Snob
True on Tranny but not sure if I was told correctly wasn't most of the "issues" dealt with in 2011 or 2012? I recall being told that one which was rebuilt locally was upgraded to the better box.

You're right with deep enough pockets anything is possible but I don't consider that the difficult part.(sort of) I more or less meant how far the car needs to go under the wrench to get it where you want. So for example a GtR will easily get there without really pushing the car at all. Hell just a tune completely stock sees gains of over 75whp+/-. It's a very impressive car... Just when buying new I don't think a house payment interests many of us lol! Plus it was recently awarded most expensive car to insure in the United states.
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different driving is all heck for the first 6-7 years of Motorsports up here that's what i did eh...it's hard on stuff but in a different way is all, the tight parking lot auto crosses are harder on equipment i think then drag your car has more in it just needs a driver mod..lol i was getting 13.2 @ 104 1.7 60 ft all day long in a stock dsm with street tires besides i wanna see what your car does against mine
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Can anyone decipher this illiterate imbecile's gibberish?

Something about you need Brian O'Conner to drag for you and I think how autocross is harder on the car.
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^^^This is why it isn't easy... at the end of the day most things are possible with no budget constraints.

The engine of the GTR says "HELL YES!!!" the tranny and other bits need a some extra attention to be drag worthy.

Don't forget, we've seen at least 3 of the GTRs up here need major tranny services.

And you're right on with the Subies... You Evo Snob
The trans in DBA cars are much improved over the CBA trans but if you dont abuse the trans you shouldn't run into any issues. I know of numerous owners with over 100 launches with no issues on CBAs.

Which 3 gtrs are you referring to that had major tranny issues? The only ones I know of are the P3 because the owner rally the car and it was covered under warranty and they got a 2013 tranny. Second was Xou because the tow truck driver towed it incorrectly so it wasn't the fault of the owner. So I ask which 3 you are referring too? Technically, its only one due to driver beating on the car for the cause of the failure. You should get you facts straights before making assumptions. You clearly don't know jack **** about the GTR. Its obvious you never driven or ridden in one either only saw one.

If your referring to mine my car it has never had any transmission issues or motor issues at all the whole time I owned it. So I suggest you squash all those false rumors.

Unless your referring to the bellhousing rattle.... but that isn't anything close or related to major transmission issues and it was covered under warranty due to manufacture defect.
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True on Tranny but not sure if I was told correctly wasn't most of the "issues" dealt with in 2011 or 2012? I recall being told that one which was rebuilt locally was upgraded to the better box.

You're right with deep enough pockets anything is possible but I don't consider that the difficult part.(sort of) I more or less meant how far the car needs to go under the wrench to get it where you want. So for example a GtR will easily get there without really pushing the car at all. Hell just a tune completely stock sees gains of over 75whp+/-. It's a very impressive car... Just when buying new I don't think a house payment interests many of us lol! Plus it was recently awarded most expensive car to insure in the United states.
There is no one uphere that rebuilts GR6 let alone certified to do it. Nissan now for 09-11 GTR they just replace it with a 2013 trans if you happen to have issues and they extended the warranty as well.

WRX/STi are the most expensive cars to insure due to dumb **** kid drivers with no experience. My insurance is cheap.
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There is no one uphere that rebuilts GR6 let alone certified to do it. Nissan now for 09-11 GTR they just replace it with a 2013 trans if you happen to have issues and they extended the warranty as well.

WRX/STi are the most expensive cars to insure due to dumb **** kid drivers with no experience. My insurance is cheap.
Why are you always "GTR this GTR that", we get it, you drive God's chariot around for a daily.

Anyway Forbes list the GTRs as one of the most expensive to insure and didnt have the sti on the list. Makes sense since it only cost insurance companies 20k-40k to replace (depending on which year) vs 60k-110k.

Also, yes I have riden and raced against a GTR in autox and the 1/4, amazing machines. Congrats, but no need to diss Sti drivers.
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WRX/STi are the most expensive cars to insure due to dumb **** kid drivers with no experience. My insurance is cheap.
You're correct that they're expensive vehicles to insure, especially the older years as they're becoming more affordable. However, it was actually publically announced that the GTR is the most expensive car to currently have auto insurance on in the United States. The GTR is classified as a budget supercar, those willing to spend that much money usually are older & opt for more exotic brands or luxury vehicles. Those that purchase GTRs primarily buy one for one purpose only... to race with. Because of that they're one of the highest if not the highest to pay for.
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Why are you always "GTR this GTR that", we get it, you drive God's chariot around for a daily.
haha

It's how he always has been. Even during his Evo days


Thing is GTRs are becoming a dime a dozen around Alaska. Many here can easily go and pick up an 09 or 10' just like many others have. The difference is not many want to be strapped down with 700-1000+/monthly car payments + insurance. In addition they're at that point of falling out of warranty or about to fall out of warranty leaving a costly risk in repair work. Add in the expensive parts line up due to R&D and you're really dumping some money in. There are even wealthy members here that just don't care to spend that kind of money. It's a great car, no one will argue that fact(I always compliment Justin on his. He likes to make me jelly lol) but it's not god. (Even Matthew Broderick managed to outsmart the mighty Godzilla) There is always someone faster out there no matter what car someone has. When it comes to this game/hobby it's all about how deep your pockets go or how deep you want them to go.


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Technically, its only one due to driver beating on the car for the cause of the failure. You should get you facts straights before making assumptions. You clearly don't know jack **** about the GTR. Its obvious you never driven or ridden in one either only saw one.
He's been in and around it plenty, even before you had yours, so I wouldn't completely write him off on what he knows or doesn't. His comment on Xou was off but all he stated was that for it's designed use & price tag as a car it needed extra details on the tranny. Obviously he's not incorrect otherwise they wouldn't be replacing them with 2013s now would they?

"Extra attention" doesn't translate to complete ****. Chill bud. All in good conversation.

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Why are you always "GTR this GTR that", we get it, you drive God's chariot around for a daily.

Anyway Forbes list the GTRs as one of the most expensive to insure and didnt have the sti on the list. Makes sense since it only cost insurance companies 20k-40k to replace (depending on which year) vs 60k-110k.

Also, yes I have riden and raced against a GTR in autox and the 1/4, amazing machines. Congrats, but no need to diss Sti drivers.
First of I don't daily my GTR. I have another high end vehicle for that with all the luxury and creature comforts for daily driving.

I'm only standing up for the false misrepresentations of the GTR since most that comment go off what they read about or hear about without experiencing first hand. So in reality can't speak from experience. Their quick to put it down saying how expensive it is and etc.
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He's been in and around it plenty, even before you had yours, so I wouldn't completely write him off...
Been in and driven every model GTR from the 1972 Hakosuka to the current model...
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It's how he always has been. Even during his Evo days


Thing is GTRs are becoming a dime a dozen around Alaska. Many here can easily go and pick up an 09 or 10' just like many others have. The difference is not many want to be strapped down with 700-1000+/monthly car payments + insurance. In addition they're at that point of falling out of warranty or about to fall out of warranty leaving a costly risk in repair work. Add in the expensive parts line up due to R&D and you're really dumping some money in. There are even wealthy members here that just don't care to spend that kind of money. It's a great car, no one will argue that fact(I always compliment Justin on his. He likes to make me jelly lol) but it's not god. (Even Matthew Broderick managed to outsmart the mighty Godzilla) There is always someone faster out there no matter what car someone has. When it comes to this game/hobby it's all about how deep your pockets go or how deep you want them to go.



He's been in and around it plenty, even before you had yours, so I wouldn't completely write him off on what he knows or doesn't. His comment on Xou was off but all he stated was that for it's designed use & price tag as a car it needed extra details on the tranny. Obviously he's not incorrect otherwise they wouldn't be replacing them with 2013s now would they?

"Extra attention" doesn't translate to complete ****. Chill bud. All in good conversation.
Yes, there seem to more GTRs since I got mine 2.5 years ago. In fact I just saw one today with OCNISSAN tags with an older gentlemen driving it.

Nissan only replaces the tranny if you get certain codes. There are tons of CBA cars running around on stock trannies with no issues. It seems majority of ones that do have issues are the ones that abuse the car with the exemption of the few that had there trans go out with no abusive driving.

When did I ever say the GTR was god? The assumptions you subies guys have... A GTR is an excellent all around car that can drag, roll race, autos, track race, and etc. Right now it holds the record for fastest 60-130 time of 3.00 for ANY platform VBOX verified.

All I'm saying is this if you haven't OWNED a GTR then you really DONT know where I'm coming from. So to say this or that and make assumptions without coming from the same place as me is just how would phrase it "bench racing".

So if your not a current or prior owner your comments don't mean crap. That's like telling me how a super bowl is and you never been to a super bowl!
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Thought this was about a tnt? haha

My .02. There's alot of shops now who have package deals strictly for stock blocks/tranny. Hell they even come w/2 year warranty work so if something goes, they cover it. Actual factory warranty is completely dismissed. The only people caring for factory warranty is people who plan to keep it stock or own it for a few years i.e. lease.

As far as tranny issues, yes the 1st version of launch control (lc1) was causing major issues, as they've updated it over the years (lc2, lc4, lc5). They now have metal circlips as well starting in 2010. If any of you read dsport, one of their dvd's had Shep give a detail showing of the gtr tranny on what breaks and what should be upgraded according to torque figures, very informative clip. No clue what a standard subie tranny upgrade cost, but I remember spending 1800 on my old evo tranny upgrade. Gtr's start at about 5k

Parts are obviously expensive since it's not like there's a crapton of gtr's rolling around which results in the "gtr tax" and people willing to pay that price. Like evolved mentioned, there is a ton of r & d going towards these vehicles which drive up the cost as well, for example Switzer which is leading the way for Syvecs ecu tuning.
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That's like telling me how a super bowl is and you never been to a super bowl!
It involves clam chowder and delicious baked bread.


You just come off strong on the forums bud, I know in PMs you're much more sensible to talk to and knowledgeable. Just don't take the conversations so literally, otherwise you get too defensive and come off as a jerk. I know you love your car, others do too but when you dangle it above peoples heads they're going to react negatively. Be more humble, everyone is here for the love of motorsports and because AKMS is dead


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Parts are obviously expensive since it's not like there's a crapton of gtr's rolling around which results in the "gtr tax" and people willing to pay that price. Like evolved mentioned, there is a ton of r & d going towards these vehicles which drive up the cost as well, for example Switzer which is leading the way for Syvecs ecu tuning.
Speaking of. What are your thoughts of David bringing Buschur into the game? He picked up a 13 premium and is in the process of developing an extensive lineup of parts. He's hoping to bring more reasonable prices to the GTR lineup (least that's what he claims.) Though in comparison to companies like AMS, he's a bit more hilly billy if you know what I mean.
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