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Old 06-09-2013, 07:39 PM   #51
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That doesn't change what I said though.
It could if interior volume is in the midsize class rather than classifying it by exterior footprint. I believe interior volume is the classification in the eyes of the EPA. Prius liftback is considered a "midsize", for example.

edit: Per Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_size_class#USA

Class - Interior combined passenger and cargo volume index in cubic feet (liters)
Minicompact car - under 85 (2407)
Subcompact car - 85–99.9 (2407–2831)
Compact car - 100–109.9 (2832–3114)
Midsize car - 110–119.9 (3115–3397)
Large car - 120 (3398) or over

edit 2: according to the Chevy press release, the SS is classified as a large car per the EPA, so one would assume it has 120 cu.ft or greater interior volume.
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Old 06-09-2013, 09:43 PM   #52
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OK, I stand corrected. Interior volume is full size. My G8 was 124.

It's may be classified as a 'large' car, however, it's not much bigger than an Accord. (And accord is 119)

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Old 06-09-2013, 11:19 PM   #53
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Yes they are. In the new NZ Autocar may they confirmed.
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2014 Chevrolet SS, mixing with the best
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The sound deadening within the car limits the brutish note a tad, but when I heard a fellow journalist rip his SS from a stoplight while I had my window down, I realized quite how ferocious this car is. Itís deafening.

And it handles well, too. Itís a car you canít help but drive fast, like when you drive a Fiat 500 Abarth. It eggs you on, daring you to try harder. As I said, it forces you to commit. But when you do, it rewards you. Its grip level is staggering, helped by a low-center of gravity due to an aluminum hood and rear deck lid, shaving 30 percent of weight when compared to traditional steel panels. All-in, the SS weighs 3,975 lbs., which isnít half bad for a four-door sedan. The ride is also good, flowing nicely on rougher streets while staying planted in the fast turns; Chevy uses a rubber isolated suspension frame to manage vibrations and jolts.

Brakes? The two-piece Brembo rotors offer excellent pedal feel and strong bite without being overly grabby. The P245/40ZR19 front and P275/35ZR19 rear tires help stick the machine to the ground like driving in wet cement. The interior is loaded with features, too, like an infotainment center, heads-up display and plenty of rear legroom. Its suede surfaces and lack of plastics feel more expensive than a Chevy should.

And yet for $45,000, with only two options (a sunroof for $900 and a spare tire for $500), youíre getting a competitive ride that undercuts the likes of a similarly powered BMW 550i. It also handily outpaces its American competitors, the bland Ford Taurus SHO and angry but less capable Chrysler 300 SRT8 and Dodge Charger.
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2014 Chevrolet SS
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The most notable nit to pick with the driving experience is the SS's six-speed automatic transmission. Not only is GM's unit a few gears short of most of its competitors, the Hyrda-Matic 6L80 can sometimes be a bit slow to shift, either when left in Drive or when using the TAPShift paddles. In order to make the gearbox shift up at the perfect time ahead of redline, the driver needs to pull the paddle, which is cast from an unfortunately flimsy plastic, a split-second earlier than expected, else the LS3 V8 (borrowed from the C6 Corvette) will bounce off its hard rev limiter a bit past its 6,000-rpm redline. This behavior is especially noticeable because the engine loves to rev with a quickness foretold by its 415-horse peak that isn't attained until a lofty 5,900 rpm.

The transmission's lack of ratios is reflected in its lackluster fuel economy figures of 14 miles per gallon in the city and 21 on the highway. The more powerful SRT8 models from Chrysler manage 14/23, though they require premium gas, while the Hyundai Genesis R-Spec Sedan earns ratings of 16/25 while putting out 429 horsepower and 376 lb-ft, in part because of its eight-speed auto.

Standard braking hardware consists of vented, 14-inch (355-mm) two-piece rotors and four-piston calipers from Brembo up front and 12.7-inch solid rotors at the rear, and they perform admirably bringing the 3,975-pound sedan down from speed. Initial bite is good, and, while I didn't do any driving on a track, I never experienced anything resembling fade on the road.
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Old 12-10-2013, 08:48 AM   #56
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This would be nice car if it were 35k dollars. No way this car is worth 45k. It has a bargain engine, a bargain transmission, and no real tech to speak of. It is just not 45k worth of car. 4000 lbs of meh.
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I had to re-program the tranny to shift better. It can be done.

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Old 12-10-2013, 09:42 AM   #58
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It has a very boring design. The new Impala looks better.
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Old 12-10-2013, 10:16 AM   #59
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^^^ what he said
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So GM is really pushing to make Chevrolet a premium brand. I just don't understand the logic.

Should have been packaged as a Buick GS for right under 40K.

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This would be nice car if it were 35k dollars. No way this car is worth 45k. It has a bargain engine, a bargain transmission, and no real tech to speak of. It is just not 45k worth of car. 4000 lbs of meh.
Cars are expensive: true story, bro. $45k doesn't seem totally out of line given that $40k will buy just a pint-size Audi S3 sedan, probably without leather/navi/anything.
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I think that speaks more about how overpriced Audi's are than anything else.
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Old 12-10-2013, 05:51 PM   #63
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I'm with Scrappy. This car looks bland and is pricing itself out of the market for a Chevy. If they wanted to charge that much, they should have thrown a Cadillac badge on it with the accompanying interior.
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I'm with Scrappy. This car looks bland and is pricing itself out of the market for a Chevy. If they wanted to charge that much, they should have thrown a Cadillac badge on it with the accompanying interior.
$45k buys you a 2.0T ATS, iirc. SS is much more car in every way than that, save for the badge. Your price-o'-meters are off, people!
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$35,000 Gets you precisely diddly these days.

Kia has a $40,000 + vehicle (Cadenza)

Evo's can be optioned to $45,000 just adding on the tech package (Navi, audio etc...) and a few little bits.

$45,000 to start is a bit high, $40,000 seems about right though.
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It is interesting, that we are having this conversation… there is another thread about why young kids are not buying new cars…

Maybe because shik is spot on.. cars are expensive bro.

There are no jobs for graduating kids. Many cannot find work or are out of work.

How the hell are they going to pay for a 30k dollar WRX or a 44k dollar SS.
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After the initial hype, they'll sell for $38k anyway. Not bad.
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It is interesting, that we are having this conversation… there is another thread about why young kids are not buying new cars…

Maybe because shik is spot on.. cars are expensive bro.

There are no jobs for graduating kids. Many cannot find work or are out of work.

How the hell are they going to pay for a 30k dollar WRX or a 44k dollar SS.
Don't price a 3 series wagon. For a nicely equipped, turbo I4, you get the pleasure of paying $50k.

They'll do what I did. $24,575 6MT GTI. I had the plaid interior with the factory aero kit, 18" wheels, and rear torso airbags as the only options.




Sometimes I still miss that car.
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I totally understand your longing for that VW.. Such a good looking and driving little hatch.

I have priced the 3 series wagon, AND the A4 avant.

That is why if I cannot get the Levorg, I may as well go for the Volvo V60 or just say to hell with it and get a new WRX/STI or another Golf R.
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After the initial hype, they'll sell for $38k anyway. Not bad.
Another good point.

Factor in A plan / graduate / etc..... discounts and these will be in the mid to high 30's.
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Sometimes I still miss that car.
Let me guess: hood was up because you were replacing the coil packs?

I know, 1.8T vs. 2.0T blah blah blah
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Why is there a Volkswagon in the chevy thread, on the Subaru Forum?
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Because we go off on tangents that have no explainable directions..

It's the NASIOC way...
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Let me guess: hood was up because you were replacing the coil packs?

I know, 1.8T vs. 2.0T blah blah blah
Probably just putting out another electrical fire
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Why is there a Volkswagon in the chevy thread, on the Subaru Forum?
Welcome and enjoy yer stay!

I disagree that $35k buys diddly, fwiw. There's plenty of cars in the $25-$35 range.
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