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Old 12-21-2013, 11:20 AM   #126
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I tell them up front... "This could be your easiest sale. Here's what I'm wiling to pay/terms, here's my pre-approved interest rate. You get one visit to the finance manager. When you come back, it's a yes or no answer."

THey come back and it's usually a no, followed up with "Why are you unwilling to work with me/us?" When I get up to leave.

"Because you failed to work with me and respect the customers needs. It's not you, it's all on your finance manger."

*blank stare*

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We were still going back and forth over email this week, but they refused to come up off of $19k for my Mustang, when its worth at least $21k.

I mean, who are you kidding? I'm trying to buy a black Focus SE hatch, every dealer in the greater Phoenix area has at least 10 of them on their lot. Do you really think I'm that desperate to buy this car from your dealership?

I don't *need* to get rid of my current car. I'm only doing so because it's a prudent financial decision, not because I can't afford it. I've got all the power here.
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Old 12-22-2013, 01:32 AM   #127
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I just hope it hits the fan and we go great depression style to remind people you can't live outside of your means. I'm sick of this stupidity. Here's to january coming and china hopefully not bailing us out or the value of the dollar collapsing due to raised debt ceiling. Whatever they decide, if it's not to cut big programs across the board, I hope we suffer sufficiently.
The debt ceiling has nothing to do with the amount of personal debt in our country and the Chinese peg their currency to the dollar. You might want to pick up an economics text book or watch something besides Fox News before you go pontificating about wanting another depression.

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We were still going back and forth over email this week, but they refused to come up off of $19k for my Mustang, when its worth at least $21k.

I mean, who are you kidding? I'm trying to buy a black Focus SE hatch, every dealer in the greater Phoenix area has at least 10 of them on their lot. Do you really think I'm that desperate to buy this car from your dealership?

I don't *need* to get rid of my current car. I'm only doing so because it's a prudent financial decision, not because I can't afford it. I've got all the power here.
If only people were allowed to sell cars themselves instead of trading them in.
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Old 12-22-2013, 07:45 AM   #128
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OK, so does anyone actually want this car?
I can't wait to see the sales figures on the SS. I've never seen one on the road either
I wouldn't mind one, can't afford it though. Besides, NASIOC doesn't represent all car enthusiasts. It's going to be very low volume, but the people wants one and has the money, will buy one

Like the ZR1 and ZL1, those are expensive top end models, not gonna be all over the road
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Old 12-22-2013, 12:30 PM   #129
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If only people were allowed to sell cars themselves instead of trading them in.
I don't have the time to deal with lowballers and clowns that just want to go out on a joyride. That also doesn't mean I need to take it up the ass from a dealer on a trade either.
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Old 12-26-2013, 11:34 PM   #130
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The debt ceiling has nothing to do with the amount of personal debt in our country and the Chinese peg their currency to the dollar. You might want to pick up an economics text book or watch something besides Fox News before you go pontificating about wanting another depression.

If only people were allowed to sell cars themselves instead of trading them in.



Also, if your car is really worth what you think it is, you can likely get that from the instant online trade value / buy out service that Autotrader offers. I've had good luck with it when a dealer was offering about 3/4 of what our previous car was worth. http://www.autotrader.com/car-news/trade-in.xhtml
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Old 12-27-2013, 10:49 AM   #131
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Also, if your car is really worth what you think it is, you can likely get that from the instant online trade value / buy out service that Autotrader offers. I've had good luck with it when a dealer was offering about 3/4 of what our previous car was worth. http://www.autotrader.com/car-news/trade-in.xhtml
Also, perhaps that $2K difference is because a dealer has to PAY someone (and associated overhead) to deal with the lowballers and clowns that just want to go out on a joyride... .
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Old 12-27-2013, 12:48 PM   #132
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Also, if your car is really worth what you think it is, you can likely get that from the instant online trade value / buy out service that Autotrader offers. I've had good luck with it when a dealer was offering about 3/4 of what our previous car was worth. http://www.autotrader.com/car-news/trade-in.xhtml
Neat! Just did it on my 2010 4Runner and got an instant trade in for $25,500. Paid $32,000 nearly 4 years ago.
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Old 12-28-2013, 02:45 PM   #133
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Also, perhaps that $2K difference is because a dealer has to PAY someone (and associated overhead) to deal with the lowballers and clowns that just want to go out on a joyride... .


Please.

I don't expect them to pay full retail for my car, but I also don't expect them to have a $10k profit margin either.

I know it's hard to believe a dealer would try to screw someone. Complete shocker, right?

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Also, if your car is really worth what you think it is, you can likely get that from the instant online trade value / buy out service that Autotrader offers. I've had good luck with it when a dealer was offering about 3/4 of what our previous car was worth. http://www.autotrader.com/car-news/trade-in.xhtml
I tried that, not impressed. Apparently it thinks my 3 year old premium 5.0 with 49k miles on it is only worth $14k in trade. For comparison, one dealer offered me $19k, the other $18k.
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Old 12-28-2013, 05:38 PM   #134
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Also, perhaps that $2K difference is because a dealer has to PAY someone (and associated overhead) to deal with the lowballers and clowns that just want to go out on a joyride... .
No way, sales are crooks.
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Old 02-23-2014, 03:35 PM   #135
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Old 02-23-2014, 04:13 PM   #136
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was going to make a joke about the SS pace car that set it's own rear on fire. But decided to wait and see if someone else would do it first.
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Old 02-23-2014, 07:36 PM   #137
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Agree with the majority on this car and it's price, but damn. What's with the Chevy/GM hate?

The new stingray is putting out monster numbers at a mere 51k.

They have the best trucks in the Sierras. The new Silverado is ugly, but that doesn't change the fact it has a long standing history of reliability, ride quality, and better MPG's then the other v8's out there.

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Old 02-23-2014, 09:05 PM   #138
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I sat in an SS 2 weeks ago at the auto show and was very impressed. It appears to be a boat load of car for the money.
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