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Old 06-10-2013, 07:51 PM   #76
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Old 06-10-2013, 07:58 PM   #77
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In short - no. I would not. I'd do what my parents did for me - N/A wagon, handed down from the 'rents. In my case, a 2004 Outback H6 LLBean.
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Old 06-10-2013, 07:58 PM   #78
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[quote=fiatlux;39989068]The only way I'd give my kid an STi is if flash it and put it in valet mode...[quote]

Haha! That's what I said in the 2013 Special Edition thread to the dad who bought one for his son.
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Old 06-10-2013, 08:09 PM   #79
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not as a first car. definitely if I see he respects cars for what they are. Then ill make him as happy as I was.
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Old 06-10-2013, 08:21 PM   #80
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I think a single cab, shortbed, chevy 1500 pickup truck, Manual trans, with daul flowmasters makes the best vehicle for a 16 year old...especially a boy. It's powerful but not very fast, and trucks are manly. Cheap to insure and operate, and gets pretty low mpg...teaching them to budget themselves and plan trips like adults.
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Old 06-10-2013, 08:44 PM   #81
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An STi? Haha. I wouldn't buy my Kid ANY car. Once I turned 14 and got my first busboy job, I bought everything for myself from then on.... Clothes, sneakers, Bikes, whatever. My parents fed me, gave me a place to live -love and guidance but never bought me "things". We were a middle class family but I paid for my own college with a loan, rode a mountain bike or the bus all through college while working and bought a 10 year old Acura Integra when I graduated. Drove it for many years and loved that car because I paid for it myself. I knew kids in school whose parents bought them new cars and most didn't appreciate. I didn't envy that.
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Old 06-10-2013, 08:59 PM   #82
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^^^^Fortunate? You're an idiot. It has to do with not wanting my kid to kill him/herself and others due to lack of experience. I don't care how smart or responsible you think you are at 16. You're not.



Never.
I'm glad people like you are still alive. Some of us need living examples of horrible judgements from "parents" if you can even call yourself that with that mindset. It's unfortunate but some of us have to share the same title as "parent" when it comes to grouping us together with you.

But I know as a human you're just another ignorant dumbass. So do other parents and their children.
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Old 06-10-2013, 09:38 PM   #83
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I would never allow one of my children to have an sti as a first car. It's not that they aren't an amazing car , rather it is too fast for an inexperienced driver . Daughters first car was a 99 rav4 and sons was a geo prizm ( rebadged Toyota corolla). Both do 0-60 in about 12 seconds or so. Perfect cars for young , new drivers.
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Old 06-10-2013, 09:42 PM   #84
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The question should be "Would you let you're kid buy an STI?" If this is a maturity thing and not a money thing then that makes more sense.

That being said I don't have a WRX, yet. However, I just turned 19 and I've never street raced nor do I plan on doing so. I've never even drank so obviously I'm not gonna drunk drive. I also drive responsibly because I know if I get a ticket I'll probably get dropped off my insurance. My next car will hopefully be a WRX and I don't plan on driving any faster or recklessly with it.

I bought my current car my self. My first car was a 1997 POS Heep Grand Cherokee. I wouldn't buy anyone an STI but if a kid was responsible enough I don't see why a WRX (or STI) would be out of the question. I feel like those of you saying you would never let your kid drive an STI either drove stupidly when you were young or...well I won't even suggest the other. Just my opinion.

Edit: I do agree with others though that an STI as a first car would be a terrible idea.
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Old 06-10-2013, 09:51 PM   #85
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^Would you let your kid buy an sti....lol, most parents that would don't even know what the hell an sti is. Plus if your kid had earned enough money on there own to do so then I would say they are responsible enough to make there own choice. But no I would never ever buy my kid an sti if I had a kid or if I had the money to.
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Old 06-10-2013, 09:54 PM   #86
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Not a chance in frozen hell. My first car was a oldsmobile royale 88'.. Thing was like a Roadmaster..but uglier. Thing was a tank. My first "sports car" was a 92' b13 nissan sentra SE-R...my brother bought my first car for me for 900$ and a years worth of doing his laundry n doing his lawn duty on sundays. Taught me to value what little i had. A nissan sentra, two 240sx, a 98 corolla, 2005 and 2010 civic si. 13 years, 3 deployments, and much penny pinching saving, i proudly purchased my first new car at the age of 26 on april 6, 2013.
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Old 06-10-2013, 09:58 PM   #87
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There is an exponentially greater chance I would be dead as well as others if I owned an STI when I was a teenager.
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Old 06-10-2013, 10:19 PM   #88
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I see so many young kids whose parents bought them their car. Any thoughts on this ??
I wouldn't do it. Two reasons:

1. Life doesn't just hand you things. Earning them is a lesson.

2. Most kids just wreck fast cars because they lack the experience/skill to drive them fast and the judgement that would otherwise prevent them from doing so. Certainly there are exceptions, but they are exceptions.
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Old 06-10-2013, 10:39 PM   #89
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Why do you some of you keep starting your answer with, "no I drove a blank blank blank(pos) as my first car." like that means anything. I agree 110% that it's not a good idea for anyone to own an sti as a first car nor should any parent buy their kid an sti or any car for that matter. But some of you guys keep saying you drove a junker like there's something wrong if you drive a decent car as your first car.

I bought an 03' jetta 1.8t on my own at 17 as my first car and I believe it was a great car to get started on and imo was pretty slow. I just feel like your leaning more towards hating than the real subject. Is there something wrong with me because I didn't drive a junker??(no offense) If I didn't move out on my own at 18 and stayed living at home I could of bought an sti. Just sayin.

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Old 06-10-2013, 11:05 PM   #90
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No, he needs to be responsible first before he gets a car that is worth 34k so he knows how to take care of it and not race it and get into an accident due to street racing.
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Old 06-10-2013, 11:06 PM   #91
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This is a ridicuous thread. I'm curious to see DoingOK chime in on this.
What I do for my children is based upon my own experience and not determined by a multitude of various backgrounds/opinions from a forum. If I find my son or daughter to be immature or unable to properly handle a vehicle.....they go back to a bicycle. Very simple. It is my responsibility as a father to ensure they are both prepared to operate a car safely. I do that by having them enrolled in defensive driving classes and attending performance driving events along with my guidance and training. I have quite a bit of track experience in cars with double the horsepower of a Subaru. I'm confident that my kids will be well-trained....it's the other drivers I'm more concerned with. I can only prepare them as best as possible.

Not really relevant to the original question....but I had a 72' Pinto wagon as a first car. I'm financially fortunate enough to provide my children something a little newer and safer.

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Old 06-10-2013, 11:07 PM   #92
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Why do you some of you keep starting your answer with, "no I drove a blank blank blank(pos) as my first car." like that means anything. I agree 110% that it's not a good idea for anyone to own an sti as a first car nor should any parent buy their kid an sti or any car for that matter. But some of you guys keep saying you drove a junker like there's something wrong if you drive a decent car as your first car.

I bought an 03' jetta 1.8t on my own at 17 as my first car and I believe it was a great car to get started on and imo was pretty slow. I just feel like your leaning more towards hating than the real subject. Is there something wrong with me because I didn't drive a junker??(no offense) If I didn't move out on my own at 18 and stayed living at home I could of bought an sti. Just sayin.
I think there are quite a few people missing the point. Its the fact that we all didnt drive vehicles with alot power and learned to respect the roads and vehicles.

Listen, the research has been done and done over by our friends at the insurance companies. Theres a REASON why a wrx is so expensive for a young, male driver to own. Theyre not just making stuff up and waiting for the check in the mail
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Old 06-10-2013, 11:14 PM   #93
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my child will do exactly what i did for my first car, get a job, save up and buy it with his own money.
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Old 06-10-2013, 11:18 PM   #94
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I think there are quite a few people missing the point. Its the fact that we all didnt drive vehicles with alot power and learned to respect the roads and vehicles.

Listen, the research has been done and done over by our friends at the insurance companies. Theres a REASON why a wrx is so expensive for a young, male driver to own. Theyre not just making stuff up and waiting for the check in the mail
Lol, just LOL. You do realize the risk of insuring someone like that is based on a general consensus of statistics of young men born near the end of your generation, correct? The same exact men commenting in this thread saying "no way would I buy it for my child." As a whole, raising the premium for young male drivers outweighs the consequences the insurance companies would face insuring that age group rather than assuming the younger generations have learned from the mistakes of your generation through pure parenting.

Because NASIOC is such a GREAT example of parenting, right? This thread is quite the pristine example of that. Let's all assume age goes hand in hand with maturity. You guys are the best example of that. Most of you 25+ (probably 35+ with some of your dinosaur responses) years old and yet still think like you're 18.
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my child will do exactly what i did for my first car, get a job, save up and buy it with his own money.
^+1 to this! why not teach them responsibility first before giving them nice cars? they have to earn it, so they know not to messed it up specially by street racing!
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Old 06-10-2013, 11:53 PM   #96
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Yes I would + stage 2 parts.

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Old 06-11-2013, 12:20 AM   #97
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Yes I would + plus stage 2 parts.
Just stage 2? I'd buy him a time attack setup.
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Old 06-11-2013, 12:26 AM   #98
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Just stage 2? I'd buy him a time attack setup.
gotta start somewhere....
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Old 06-11-2013, 12:28 AM   #99
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Of coarse..its safe. My first car was a honda accord then a white 06 WRX. Loved that car till it totaled by someone who wanted to run a red light. Then my white 2007 STI...eventually turned into an M3. M3 was sold for an Evo MR which was sold because its not a subaru and dont know what I was thinking. Now I ended up with a a wife a kid and the family car is a 2011 STI sedan. Happy as can be..25 yrs old and been through a lot of nice cars
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Old 06-11-2013, 12:39 AM   #100
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I think the accleleration statment really applies to WRXs with the 2.5. The five speed only need one shift to get to 60, and the 6 speed in the STi needs two shifts.

So the time loss shifting is why the WRX is every so slightly faster than the STi (I've read as low as 4.8 vs 5.0 seconds respectively) in that situation even though the claimed output of the 2.5l equipped WRXs are down 40hp to the STi. Although I don't think the STis are actually putting down that much more power to the wheels when dyno'd.

Also the STi doesn't get it's full power unless you run 93 octane. So places like here in CA where we get a particularly poor for performance blend of 91 octane, the regular WRX is even closer in terms of power.
What? The two cars have equal whp now on equal gas and so the wrx is faster to 60 due to lighter weight and one less gear shift. This needs to be common knowledge on these forums by now.

Anyways I got my WRX as a reward for getting into grad school at age 21 and have 0 tickets and accidents so I think I'm doing alright.

However, I don't think it's a car I should have had when I was 16. I got a hand-me-down rav4 i4 until my hormones calmed down and I got my WRX.
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