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Old 06-11-2013, 04:48 PM   #151
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I make my kids pay for half of there first cars. If they could have payed half for an sti we would have bought one.
When I wanted my first car, my dad put in a rule that I had to have an equal amount left in the bank after buying it. So not only did my parents not pay half, I had to earn double. I never complained about that either. I was happy that I was being allowed to buy a car. I did the same thing earlier with a motorcycle that I used to get to my job. Much easier than a bicycle.
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Old 06-11-2013, 04:49 PM   #152
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Forgot one.
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Old 06-11-2013, 05:23 PM   #153
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NOPE NEVER, TO MUCH POWER,LET THEM WRECK A FEW OLD SLOW CARS FIRST! I feel this question is a no brainer. We all know how we or our friends acted when we first started driving and we all know a few of them who were in accidents from speeding or received tickets for XXX speeds. I wouldn't get my kid a STI unless he/she were in College, had a good GPA and a good driving record.

The debate over if a parent should even buy their kid a car VS. them saving up and buying their own car is not even the question in this thread and should be left out of the discussion. People often forget that every family is different.
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Old 06-11-2013, 06:25 PM   #154
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If I had to means to purchase my child a car, I would put them in an under powered FR with good gas mileage. Once they are the downhill specialist in the region's illegal mountain racing team. I'd let them occasionally drive an STi that I buy later on.

If the above criteria isn't met, then there's always this:



or this:



or this:

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Old 06-11-2013, 06:47 PM   #155
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If I had to means to purchase my child a car, I would put them in an under powered FR with good gas mileage. Once they are the downhill specialist in the region's illegal mountain racing team. I'd let them occasionally drive an STi that I buy later on.
Heh, continuing the initial D jokes.... :-P
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Old 06-11-2013, 07:03 PM   #156
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my first 3 cars were handed down to me by my dad or two older brothers. My first car was my dads Cadillac - a 1990 coupe deville hard top. To this day my favorite car, it had suede interior air ride suspension and not to mention a 4.5 liter Northstar v8. I've never had a speeding ticket to this day and not a single accident till last week when I totaled my 2013 wrx...well waiting to hear if its totaled. He could have made me buy my own but my father wasn't given anything growing up and my family has been in the moving and storage business since 1840 - needless to say he knew I was goin work my ass off that summer and the years to come.

That being said I would not buy my son an sti but I'd rather hand him down something that I had driven, he might appreciate it more. Also most parents kno who their son is and whether or not he has **** together - I like to think I did.
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Old 06-11-2013, 07:46 PM   #157
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I've been a school teacher for almost 20 years. I can confirm what many people have stated: kids are generally knuckleheads with marginal judgment. Putting them behind the wheel of an STI is just plain stupid.

As for all the defensive teens/20-somethings in this thread, I am well aware that no amount of words will ever convince you that your lack of life experience actually matters. It's futile to even try because your brain can't even grasp such a concept.
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Old 06-11-2013, 08:24 PM   #158
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I've been a school teacher for almost 20 years. I can confirm what many people have stated: kids are generally knuckleheads with marginal judgment. Putting them behind the wheel of an STI is just plain stupid.

As for all the defensive teens/20-somethings in this thread, I am well aware that no amount of words will ever convince you that your lack of life experience actually matters. It's futile to even try because your brain can't even grasp such a concept.
This!

LIke I said before, "You don't know what you don't know."
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Old 06-11-2013, 08:26 PM   #159
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Nhm, a kid who was aware that he wasn't experienced enough I'd say would be quite mature. It's not common but also not unreasonable for them to grasp the reality that they haven't been driving long enough to handle a powerful car.

I fully expect someone able to drive to be able to strive to know what he doesn't know. But refusing to do that and assume he knows something that in reality is in the realm of "don't know that he doesn't know" is a sign of stupid arrogance, not youthful immaturity and inexperience.
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Old 06-11-2013, 08:36 PM   #160
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If I had to means to purchase my child a car, I would put them in an under powered FR with good gas mileage. Once they are the downhill specialist in the region's illegal mountain racing team. I'd let them occasionally drive an STi that I buy later on.

If the above criteria isn't met, then there's always this:

or this:

or this:
Man that's cold using the 87 Fiero GT! I think Fieros are awesome cars, they were just a little ahead of their time, and GM refused to let it be what the original designer wanted!
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Old 06-11-2013, 08:40 PM   #161
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Man that's cold using the 87 Fiero GT! I think Fieros are awesome cars, they were just a little ahead of their time, and GM refused to let it be what the original designer wanted!
Once they stop spinning out in the Fiero, then they can drive an STi. Lesson in control.
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Old 06-11-2013, 08:42 PM   #162
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Nope. Unless his last name was Unser, Andretti or Rahal and had a lot of seat time in go karts or performance cars. My opinion is you should work up to the horse power. I would buy them something with low horse power... heck a Smart car so they can't go too fast or carry too many people. Experience and maturity is the key. You can have that at a young age but I sure didn't.
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Old 06-11-2013, 08:53 PM   #163
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I've been a school teacher for almost 20 years. I can confirm what many people have stated: kids are generally knuckleheads with marginal judgment. Putting them behind the wheel of an STI is just plain stupid.

As for all the defensive teens/20-somethings in this thread, I am well aware that no amount of words will ever convince you that your lack of life experience actually matters. It's futile to even try because your brain can't even grasp such a concept.

So much win here.
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Old 06-11-2013, 09:03 PM   #164
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Nope. Unless his last name was Unser, Andretti or Rahal and had a lot of seat time in go karts or performance cars. My opinion is you should work up to the horse power. I would buy them something with low horse power... heck a Smart car so they can't go too fast or carry too many people. Experience and maturity is the key. You can have that at a young age but I sure didn't.
I'd never give a kid a smart car. Those things are unsafe as hell if hit by anything more massy than another smart car.

I'd let him or her have something like a stock Impreza: good economy, low horses, SAFE, stable.
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Old 06-11-2013, 09:07 PM   #165
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I think a STI would be a great car for a kid.

Wouldn't let em drive it on the street though-track only car...
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Old 06-11-2013, 09:13 PM   #166
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This makes me laugh becuase so often you see people on here talking about what an ecobox grocery getter our cars are etc....

It takes experience to drive anything including a civic. Again a wrx is not a freakin super car, and nor is the sti.
To a new driver, I would argue 300 hp is too much. Even 200 can be enough to get into trouble for some. I'm glad I had 150 hp cars for many years, learning how cars respond when pushed to the limits. I've been driving for over 10 years and I still have my moments (less frequently).
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Old 06-11-2013, 09:32 PM   #167
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Didn't read the responses, but the short response is hell no.

I wouldn't even buy my kid a WRX. They can have an older Impreza, sure.
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Old 06-11-2013, 09:36 PM   #168
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Does anyone remember the skyrocket-ing prices of insurance on WRX's shortly after they were released in the U.S.?

Better question.....does anyone remember why?

I do.
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Old 06-11-2013, 09:56 PM   #169
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If I had to means to purchase my child a car, I would put them in an under powered FR with good gas mileage. Once they are the downhill specialist in the region's illegal mountain racing team. I'd let them occasionally drive an STi that I buy later on.

If the above criteria isn't met, then there's always this:

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Of course you would secretly teach him how to drive by having him deliver tofu at 4 am everyday, rain or shine.
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Old 06-11-2013, 10:06 PM   #170
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so my parents bought me my first car.

It was a brand new stripped down toyota pickup truck. vinyl upholestry. no a/c. My parents then proceeded to put me to work ath the many shops they own, making deliveries and whatnot. I wanted at the time a nicer car, like a celica (which is very affordable for them). but my parents wanted me to learn a bit of responsibility while at the same time being kind enough to buy me transportation.

My cousin, who's family also owns a similiar business, was given an M3. he wrecked that. he then asked for a prelude. wrecked that. he then asked antoher beamer. rinse repeat. He's got a more non-chalant attitude cuz cars to him are disposable. i think most of things to him are disposable... women, cars, income that he sorta bleeds from his parents... it's been over 20 years sicne... i think he's still teh same.

I myself am glad i wasnt as spoiled and learned a thing or two.
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Old 06-11-2013, 10:07 PM   #171
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When I was 16 I had a turbo'd miata, then sold it for a built 2002 Mustang GT when I was 17 and bought my WRX stock when I was 19. I'm now 20, have paid for all 3 of my cars, all of my mods to my WRX, and my insurance and only had one ticket in my life (in the Miata) and never been in a wreck. With that being said, I would never buy my kids an STI unless I knew they could handle it. Kids my age are actual retards when it comes to driving.

Will never understand though why everyone on these threads over 25+ think that kids never buy their own Subarus and everything is paid for by their parents. I've had a fairly high paying job for my age since I was 17 and I know several other people have as well. I think people need to stop generalizing the younger Subaru owners and realize it's all on a case by case basis.
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When I was 16 I had a turbo'd miata, then sold it for a built 2002 Mustang GT when I was 17 and bought my WRX stock when I was 19. I'm now 20, have paid for all 3 of my cars, all of my mods to my WRX, and my insurance and only had one ticket in my life (in the Miata) and never been in a wreck. With that being said, I would never buy my kids an STI unless I knew they could handle it. Kids my age are actual retards when it comes to driving.

Will never understand though why everyone on these threads over 25+ think that kids never buy their own Subarus and everything is paid for by their parents. I've had a fairly high paying job for my age since I was 17 and I know several other people have as well. I think people need to stop generalizing the younger Subaru owners and realize it's all on a case by case basis.

That's pretty awesome that you could buy those things at such an early age. I had a friend who worked real hard and saved for his 3000gt.

i think its different if my kid runs up to me and asks for a nice fancy car. I'd like him to learn a little bit of humility first and appreciate the simpler things in life, like having ANY kind of car beats having NO car.
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Old 06-11-2013, 10:15 PM   #173
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Because most kids (the vast majority) don't have & can't get relatively high paying jobs. They don't have enough maturity & initiative to put their noses to the grind stone while also showing initiative to get that kind of pay.
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Old 06-11-2013, 10:25 PM   #174
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I'm 19 and bought my 2006 wrx myself after totaling my 98 explorer right after high school. I went to a fairly up tight school in pa and I've seen my share of parents buying kids nice cars, Audi a4, Audi a6, Audi a8l, 350z, bimmer the one thing they all had in common was that they all thought there **** doesn't stink. And treated there cars like **** if something breaks mommy and daddy fixed it. One kid wrecked his gti mom and dad bought another 1 then totaled another then and then bought a r32 makes sense right. I worked hard for my car and everything I've put into it. Insurance for a 19 year old perfect driving record is 225 a month. I'd never by my kids a wrx. They'd get a awd SUV something that can take an accident well and good in snow and something cheap . Kids my age are stupid no respect for anything when things are giving to them there's no respect for it . Have them buy it them selves then they will respect it. Coming from a 19 year old
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Old 06-11-2013, 10:46 PM   #175
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My parents bought me a bunch of fairly fast cars from 16-20.

So no, I won't be buying my kids something like an STi.
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