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Old 06-19-2013, 07:34 AM   #26
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I just did a quick search and found a few threads on this. Most of the input seems to come from folks on/near the coasts. Might be a regional thing.
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Old 06-19-2013, 07:58 AM   #27
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I just did a quick search and found a few threads on this. Most of the input seems to come from folks on/near the coasts. Might be a regional thing.
Great sleuthing, Sherlock. All you had to do was click on the link below.
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The WRQ-39 Service Campaign is mandatory in states which have adopted CARB vehicle emissions standards.

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Old 06-19-2013, 09:36 PM   #28
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Coco, thanks for clearing up my paranoia on panicking if the dealer flashes me back to stock settings. I agree, I didn't think my air box and downpipe would translate to something the stock settings wouldn't adapt to, at least I can drive the car less aggressively until it re-learns.
Some of the posts said that if I used the Cobb tuning instead of Tactix (open source) the dealer could over-ride my tune. Doesn't it make sense if I'm this paranoid about the dealer f***ing up my settings to just go "Cobb" ? I mean I'm not going to go track this car and feel I probably would sense that much difference with a "generic" stage 2 setting.
Thanks for the heads up on having my tuner reflash with the WRQ-39 micro code. Hope he's aware of this. Damm S4 was allot easier, just sent the extra computer to the tuner whenever there was this kind of "recall" for him to flash..
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Old 06-20-2013, 02:42 PM   #29
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Coco, thanks for clearing up my paranoia on panicking if the dealer flashes me back to stock settings. I agree, I didn't think my air box and downpipe would translate to something the stock settings wouldn't adapt to, at least I can drive the car less aggressively until it re-learns.
Some of the posts said that if I used the Cobb tuning instead of Tactix (open source) the dealer could over-ride my tune. Doesn't it make sense if I'm this paranoid about the dealer f***ing up my settings to just go "Cobb" ? I mean I'm not going to go track this car and feel I probably would sense that much difference with a "generic" stage 2 setting.
Thanks for the heads up on having my tuner reflash with the WRQ-39 micro code. Hope he's aware of this. Damm S4 was allot easier, just sent the extra computer to the tuner whenever there was this kind of "recall" for him to flash..
You're worried about OEM ecu adjustments but you had the car modded & tuned... and you think it was easier to keep 2 ecu's around and mail one to a tuner everytime you wanted a reflash?

I would think that if possible, it would be best to find a subaru technician that knows exactly what's being changed in the OEM reflash to see if it is even relevant to you since you're already tuned. I stand by my original statement though, you're already reflashed by a tuner so the MFG's reflash is worthless to you at this point.
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Old 06-20-2013, 03:19 PM   #30
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This seems right, and was what the issue was with my car pre the factory ECU update.
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Old 06-20-2013, 03:30 PM   #31
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This seems right, and was what the issue was with my car pre the factory ECU update.
I'll concede a point here. If there's a new rom revision coming out from Subaru, wouldn't it make more sense to get that rom and then have your tuner copy his modified tables over?
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Old 06-20-2013, 04:47 PM   #32
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Coco, thanks for clearing up my paranoia on panicking if the dealer flashes me back to stock settings. I agree, I didn't think my air box and downpipe would translate to something the stock settings wouldn't adapt to, at least I can drive the car less aggressively until it re-learns.
Some of the posts said that if I used the Cobb tuning instead of Tactix (open source) the dealer could over-ride my tune. Doesn't it make sense if I'm this paranoid about the dealer f***ing up my settings to just go "Cobb" ? I mean I'm not going to go track this car and feel I probably would sense that much difference with a "generic" stage 2 setting.
Thanks for the heads up on having my tuner reflash with the WRQ-39 micro code. Hope he's aware of this. Damm S4 was allot easier, just sent the extra computer to the tuner whenever there was this kind of "recall" for him to flash..
Your ECU will not learn and will not adjust in a safe way to a dp and intake. If you do not reflash a tune for your parts, your engine will lean out under boost conditions regardless of the ammount of time that passes and will eventually grenade. A tune is mandatory for those parts if you want your engine to remain running.
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Old 06-20-2013, 07:32 PM   #33
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Your ECU will not learn and will not adjust in a safe way to a dp and intake. If you do not reflash a tune for your parts, your engine will lean out under boost conditions regardless of the ammount of time that passes and will eventually grenade. A tune is mandatory for those parts if you want your engine to remain running.
Rubbish. You WILL NOT "lean out" when the ECU is operating within closed-loop fuel control, even while "boosting." The ECU monitors your actual AFR and if it decides it can't add enough fuel to compensate for any extra air flow, it sets a fuel-trim trouble code and turns on the CEL, which you should not ignore. Going WOT for more than a few seconds can send the ECU into open-loop fuel control, though.
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