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Old 06-19-2013, 11:34 PM   #1
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Default 93-95 gf8 wheel/tire setup...losing my mind

Well. Long strory short, had some rota subzero 17x7.5 42mm offset with 225/45 tires that i was going to shove under my 1993 fwd 1.8L. Didnt pan out nearly as well as i thought it was. Struts and springs wont have any of that **** so i went smaller and got some stock 02-04 wrx wheels 16x7 with 205/55's stock gc8 with the "hell yeah this couldnt go wrong" mentality. Well it did, they clear the front spring and strut when the car is jacked up but there is no way theyll fit and they cant even mount on the rear studs. All im looking for is the stock size of the 1993-95 impreza's. I have 14x? on it now with 185/60 tires. Pretty much the most pathetic performing setup ive ever been on in my life, and id like to think there is a slightly better setup out there for me somewere. I appreciate any input in the right direction. I tried rs25.com and havent seen a response yet.

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Old 06-20-2013, 10:28 AM   #2
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Well. Long strory short, had some rota subzero 17x7.5 42mm offset with 225/45 tires that i was going to shove under my 1993 fwd 1.8L. Didnt pan out nearly as well as i thought it was. Struts and springs wont have any of that...
How so? What is interfering where?

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so i went smaller and got some stock 02-04 wrx wheels 16x7 with 205/55's stock gc8 with the "hell yeah this couldnt go wrong" mentality. Well it did, they clear the front spring and strut when the car is jacked up but there is no way theyll fit and they cant even mount on the rear studs.
Again, what specifically is interfering where? And when you say they clear the front spring and strut with it jacked up there is no way they'll fit, are you saying that when you let the car down off the jack the tire won't clear the fender? If that's the case, it's possible the struts & springs are just tired/sagging - any idea what condition they're in (original, replaced at some point...)?

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All im looking for is the stock size of the 1993-95 impreza's. I have 14x? on it now with 185/60 tires.
Check here - http://www.cars101.com/subaru/tiresandwheels.html - scroll way down and he has wheel/tire sizing back to the early years. Also check inside the driver's door on the sill - the sticker there should show the tires sizes and recommended pressures.

Just looking at the sizes offered on the car (up to 195/70-14), it doesn't seem to me that a 205/55-16 should be an issue. That's the same diameter, and only slightly wider. I don't know anything about differences between the FWD and AWD rear suspension/strut/knuckle, so I don't know what would cause problems.
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Old 06-20-2013, 03:31 PM   #3
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About midway down the tire from the tread the strut hits and that's before I can even get one stud in. I was thinking they might be the wrong struts but figured it very unlikely. Is it possible for someone to put the front struts on the back and vise versa?

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About midway down the tire from the tread the strut hits and that's before I can even get one stud in.
On the front or the rear or both?

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Is it possible for someone to put the front struts on the back and vise versa?
Not without having massive problems with ride heights, as the spring perches and strut housing lengths are completely different.
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Old 06-26-2013, 10:38 AM   #5
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On the front or the rear or both?

Not without having massive problems with ride heights, as the spring perches and strut housing lengths are completely different.
Not to mention the front will dive wayyyy more under braking.
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I'm confused. Jacking the car up doesn't change the position of the tire in relation to the strut. If it doesn't hit jacked up, it won't hit when lowered. When the car is jacked up the strut/spring extends and allows the tire to move away from the car, but not from the strut.
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^^^ Hence my question, which he didn't answer.
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On the front or the rear or both?

Not without having massive problems with ride heights, as the spring perches and strut housing lengths are completely different.
Both front and rears hit bottom of the spring perch on the strut.
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Both front and rears hit bottom of the spring perch on the strut.
If its just the shoulder, you could possibly use some small spacers (up to 5mm) to give you some more space.

Other option is smaller circumference tires, or 98-01 struts (if they fit, idk).
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Or your camber could be jacked.
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Both front and rears hit bottom of the spring perch on the strut.
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... got some stock 02-04 wrx wheels 16x7 [16x6.5"] with 205/55's stock gc8 with the "hell yeah this couldnt go wrong" mentality. Well it did, they clear the front spring and strut when the car is jacked up ...
... don't match.

Looking at rockauto.com, they don't differentiate between FWD and AWD when it comes to front struts, so it seems like the wheels should fit up front. There are different part numbers for the rear struts for FWD and AWD, so whatever is different about the struts must be causing the interference in the rear. I don't know if it's possible to put AWD rear struts on the FWD car. Maybe you would need to have the AWD rear knuckles to use the AWD rear struts?

How much interference are you getting? Use some washers on the wheel studs to figure out how far out you need to push the wheel in order for the tire to clear the strut / spring perch.
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Old 06-27-2013, 06:34 PM   #12
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Ill have to get a tape to get an exact number but its looking like over an inch. I was thinking about 1/4-1/2" spacers for the front and 1.5" for the rear. Ill get an exact number off the rear tomorrow or Saturday. Ill also grab a part number off the rear strut and see if I can talk to kyb or koni and see if the awd struts can be swapped in.
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