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Old 05-24-2001, 08:02 AM   #1
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Question Where to get Rollcage?

I'm looking for a roll cage. Bolt in preffered, but weldin is ok too. There is a local metal shop that I trust to do the welding (my welding sucks), but I'm not sure about having them fabricate one from scratch. (mounting point locations make me nervous). I've seen primitive racing has one that they can weld in, but I'd have to take the car across country to have that done. I found a place in the UK that has them, bolt in and weld in.
http://www.safetydevices.co.uk/rollcage.htm

But I'd like to see if anybody in the states has a bolt in, or would ship me pre bent weld in sections for the Impreza before I investigate haveing one shipped across the big pond.

I remember reading in the forums about a parts supplier who was going to do a test fit of a roll cage, but I can't seem to find the post. Anybody have any leads? Thanks
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Old 05-24-2001, 08:07 AM   #2
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Primm Motorsports has one available too. Im still looking for a 4 point bolt in Roll bar.
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Old 05-24-2001, 09:12 AM   #3
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We have this cage available to us.
FIA Legal - Multi-Point weld in cage:
<IMG SRC="http://www.primmracing.com\project-car\products\cage-diagram02.jpg" border=0>
Price is $800 USD delivered.
Delivery time is approx 4 to 6 weeks.

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Old 05-24-2001, 09:24 AM   #4
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Your best bet is to find a local race car engineering shop to build what you want. Expect to spend about $1000.
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Old 05-24-2001, 05:20 PM   #5
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Drive up to Rallispec and let them weld one in for you.

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Old 05-24-2001, 06:51 PM   #6
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Have you sent AutoPower an email to ask them? or ask www.roadraceengineeering.com
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Old 05-24-2001, 07:16 PM   #7
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Dante, do you do installs as well? If you do - do you need the engine and trans out, or just the whole interior?

Thanks in advance!

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Old 05-24-2001, 07:35 PM   #8
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Currently we only supply the product no installations. Hopefully sometime down the road we will open a shop and turn out turn-key projects.

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Old 05-24-2001, 08:08 PM   #9
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Are there any available that allow access to the back seat?

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Old 05-25-2001, 02:19 PM   #10
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Autopower makes ones that allow you to use the backseat. If your going to weld it in you may want to weld it to the rocker panels as well as the floor incase of a serious enough accident you don't just push the rollcage feet through the floor pan. It also depends on how serious you want to get with it.
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Old 05-25-2001, 02:22 PM   #11
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STi offers roll cages on their site but I don't think you can get them here. they are nice though and they have alot of diffrent types. meaby you can find someone to copy them for you.
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Old 05-25-2001, 04:55 PM   #12
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Depending on your use, I would most definately recommend a weld-in over bolt-in.

Plus most motorsport bodies now require
tie-ins and gusseting on corners anyway.

Most any decent race-shop can fabricate
a good cage with the proper kit or
from scratch. Call around.

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Old 05-25-2001, 05:48 PM   #13
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I think I'm gonna end up getting a weld in cage from Dante Primm. I can have the local welder make any mods or tie the cage into a couple of other points on the car. He has a good price. I found a place that has suposedly STI cages, ( http://home.att.net/~teaguesauto/stiparts1.htm ) but the price isn't as good and the main tubing is actually smaller diameter than the one Dante has. I have yet to hear back from safety devices in the UK about their bolt in cage. The one thing I liked about their cage is the way it ties into the roof of the car, and bolts to other points, like the stock seat belt mounting bolts etc, to stiffen up the whole chassis. But I can have the welder fabricate some of that stuff. And having the basic tubing will definitly make the welders job easier, and ease my mind about the basic design of the cage. There are only a handfull of people that have welded up tube chassis in the area (within 2 hours, yeah I live in the sticks). While I'm sure they have the skills necessary, most of them have never seen a subaru, let alone welded a cage into one.

Speaking of nice roll cages, check this out.
http://imprezawrx.org/projectwrx/rcage.html

I think I'll make some of my modifications the same way they are made on this car.

Thanks for all your input. I'm nervous about this upgrade.

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Old 05-25-2001, 06:24 PM   #14
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I hope you are ready to lay out some cash for the installation. They have to remove your your front and rear windows as well as your dashboard so that they can run the cage through. I just picked up my car after getting the same style cage that Dante is selling installed in my car. Mine was custom built but the pipe coming down along the a-pillar has to go through the top of the dash and the top part of the side x-member has to go through the front of the dash.

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Old 05-25-2001, 07:28 PM   #15
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I plan on gutting the car myself. As far as the windows, I would think that if you weld the front part of the kit together in the car then weld on the top side bars, and then tilt the assembly up and forward you could get away with not removeing the front glass. And it appears that the rear glass is far enough away from any welds that removing it would not be necessary. I'm just guessing here, and I don't doubt your word that your glass was removed. But I don't think in this case it'll be necassary. I'm sure I'll find out one way or another though. And what the heck, the windshield already has a chip in it.

I already dissambled the dash last weekend, just to see how it came apart. And the rear seat has been out for a long time already.

Did they tie your cage into the car roof, either by welding or by bolting? Also how about the pillar behind the seat? Just curios.
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Old 05-26-2001, 07:25 PM   #16
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I had a custom cage welded into my car. If you're going to weld the A-pillar tubes to the A-pillars (which you really should do as it increases the chassis rigidity a lot), you have to take out the windshield. I took out the sides and the back glass too. It just made the job easier and I didn't have to worry about the glass getting screwed up. Also took off the doors. It's pretty easy and it makes it a whole lot easier to get everything inside.

One thing ... my cage is Cr-Mo and was TIG welded, so it was a real bear for the welder to get into the tight areas. Also, I didn't go for X's on the doors, just one door bar and they bent it in just enough to clear the arm rest. It's pretty sweet.

-Steve

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Old 05-27-2001, 09:06 AM   #17
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Well I guess I should plan on yanking the glass too then. I should replace the front windshield anyways, and I'd really like to rig up some kind of easy way to remove the rear seat glass, it would make rear camber adjustments on the struts a heck of a lot easier. Thanks
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