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Old 06-27-2013, 08:03 PM   #1
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Anyone tried these? Looks like they just became available at Tirerack.
I ordered the V speed, I have seen reviews for the W/Y models and they get a good rating!
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Old 06-27-2013, 08:05 PM   #2
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Old 07-01-2013, 02:26 AM   #3
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shoulda got the higher speed ones...they are usually a lot less squishy
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Old 07-05-2013, 06:41 PM   #4
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Getting them installed on my s60 today. This should be fun.
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Old 07-09-2013, 11:27 AM   #5
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we should be testing them in a week or so ... all reports are saying strong dry and wet performance with snow performance equal to the previous Pilot Sport AS+
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Old 07-09-2013, 12:13 PM   #6
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I'm interested to hear how they compare to the AS+'s since that's what I'm rocking right now.
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Old 07-09-2013, 02:33 PM   #7
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I have never had the AS+...but from my limited experience with the AS3 I am a HUGE fan. Grip is fantastic and my S60 seems to have absolutely come alive.

The previous tire on the Volvo S60 R-Design were the Continental ContiProContact...and to be rather frank the car always felt a step behind. It was great cruising and acceptable up to about 7/10's but beyond that it wallowed. Most of that is now gone. The difference really is amazing. Add to that the OEM tires wearing out at only 23000 miles and I am glad to be rid of them.
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Old 08-22-2013, 12:59 PM   #8
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Hi guys, figured I'd post here instead of starting a whole new thread. Just got a set of these PS A/S3's in 235/45 ZR17 for my hatch last week. I've only got a few hundred miles on them so far but man are these things sweet!

Far quieter than the Dunlop Sp's which came on the car from the factory, the grip on these all seasons is fantastic. I figured I'd be sacrificing some dry traction over the Sp's in exchange for the all season performance but the loss, if any is very negligable. The feedback and response from these things is awesome. Much more crisp and precise than the Dunlops, they hold firm right to their limit and when they do break away they do so gradually and are very easy to reign back in with a simple throttle adjustment.

Haven't had much of a chance to test the wet weather performance as it's been pretty dry in Socal this past week but if they're anything like the tires they're intended to replace(PS A/S Plus) I'll have no worries as those tires were more than capable on wet surfaces. Throw in some "light" snow capability thanks to the "worm drive" serrations inside the main grooves and these tires sure seem to be true all season UHP's. Time will tell how they hold up to the daily grind that is my drive along I-15 but with a 45,000 mile warranty and the Michellin name, I dont anticipate any problems.

At the $170/tire($40 cheaper than the OEM Dunlops!) I paid these things aren't cheap but they're not totally going to break the bank either. I'll report back once I get to run them in the wet and maybe later this winter after trips to Big Bear and Tahoe but for the time being I'm very impressed with these new Michelins. Oh, and did I mention that I'm averaging +2 mpg since installing them? Score!
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Old 08-25-2013, 11:08 PM   #9
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I just got them on my stock '05 Impreza RS wagon. Compared to the RE92's, the PS A/S 3's have a crispier feel when I turn the steering wheel at low speeds, but the improvement is not enough to make my car feel like a European car with high precision steering. At 70 MPH they are smooth, probably aided by the fact that no counterweights were needed to balance them.

The PS A/S 3 tires are more forgiving of smaller road imperfections like pavement grooves, but larger bumps are felt more firmly, but either way they do not feel harsh like the RE92's often did.

I noticed that thread pattern of the PS A/S 3 is very similar to the one on the Defender tire that Michelin already offers for the mainstream family car/light SUV market. I hope that this means that the tire designers at Michelin already have some experience on the physics of how this thread pattern type performs with real customers (although the PS A/S 3 likely uses different materials).
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Old 08-26-2013, 11:04 AM   #10
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I noticed that tread pattern of the PS A/S 3 is very similar to the one on the Defender tire that Michelin already offers for the mainstream family car/light SUV market. I hope that this means that the tire designers at Michelin already have some experience on the physics of how this thread pattern type performs with real customers (although the PS A/S 3 likely uses different materials).
It's also more or less the same patteren used on their Pilot Super Sports, IMHO some of the best ultra high performance summer tires available. I believe those were introduced in 2010 and remain more or less unchanged in terms of tread pattern so these new tires should be able to take advantge of all that experience and feedback.

I'll admit at first I was disappointed that the tread pattern on these was less agressive looking than the PS A/S Plus(love that pattern) and almost considered going with the older tire, almost... but quickly wised up. They must've changed 'em for a reason, and for only $1 more per tire than the old models, it didnt make sense for me not to upgrade.

The biggest issues facing my tires? Remaining screw and nail free for at least a year...

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Old 08-26-2013, 11:56 AM   #11
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It's also more or less the same patteren used on their Pilot Super Sports, IMHO some of the best ultra high performance summer tires available. I believe those were introduced in 2010 and remain more or less unchanged in terms of tread pattern so these new tires should be able to take advantge of all that experience and feedback.

I'll admit at first I was disappointed that the tread pattern on these was less agressive looking than the PS A/S Plus(love that pattern) and almost considered going with the older tire, almost... but quickly wised up. They must've changed 'em for a reason, and for only $1 more per tire than the old models, it didnt make sense for me not to upgrade.

The biggest issues facing my tires? Remaining screw and nail free for at least a year...

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Meh that what plugs are for haha. I think I have plugged at least one tire in every set of tires I have ever bought even the back tire on my sportbike.
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Old 08-26-2013, 12:26 PM   #12
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Meh that what plugs are for haha. I think I have plugged at least one tire in every set of tires I have ever bought even the back tire on my sportbike.
You plug sidewalls? Yikes! Seriously though, straight plug jobs make me nervous, if you're not unmounting the tire to inspect it before patching/plugging how do you know for sure there's not more damage to the interior of the tire? For short term or off-road situations where you need to get back to civilization I totally understand, but I'm not going to daily my car up and down I-15 at 70+ mph on a plug that's just been jammed through a hole in my rubber. Especially not with my daughter in the backseat.

Not saying that your plug jobs are janky or suspect Dmo, please dont take offense; just that I'm not trusting my families safety to a damaged tire that hasn't been inspected and repaired with a proper patch/plug job.

Regardless, with my luck recently I run over the nail right on the edge of the nylon belts so repairs(patch/plug) are not even an option
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Old 08-26-2013, 01:15 PM   #13
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You plug sidewalls? Yikes! Seriously though, straight plug jobs make me nervous, if you're not unmounting the tire to inspect it before patching/plugging how do you know for sure there's not more damage to the interior of the tire? For short term or off-road situations where you need to get back to civilization I totally understand, but I'm not going to daily my car up and down I-15 at 70+ mph on a plug that's just been jammed through a hole in my rubber. Especially not with my daughter in the backseat.

Not saying that your plug jobs are janky or suspect Dmo, please dont take offense; just that I'm not trusting my families safety to a damaged tire that hasn't been inspected and repaired with a proper patch/plug job.

Regardless, with my luck recently I run over the nail right on the edge of the nylon belts so repairs(patch/plug) are not even an option
By side wall do you mean the tire shops definition of side wall which can be an inch and a half into the tread of the tire or the actual sidewall? The only damage I have have ever done to the sidewall was running over a rock with the sidewall and it ripped a hole in it. You can't repair that.

Yes I do trust my repair bc I take wheel off make sure the leak is due a nail and not a bent wheel or bulging sidewall. You would feel that though when driving. If a plug did fail your tire would just slowly deflate over the course of a couple minutes. I am pretty confident if that happened I could pull over. Like I said before have never had one fail yet and I just plugged one on my wife's civic the other week. Damn roofers left a **** tone of nails in my yard after replacing the roof and they like to wash into the driveways after it rains...
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Old 08-26-2013, 01:20 PM   #14
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And plugs are good enough for 160 on my buddies R1 haha.
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Old 08-26-2013, 05:57 PM   #15
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By side wall do you mean the tire shops definition of side wall which can be an inch and a half into the tread of the tire or the actual sidewall? The only damage I have have ever done to the sidewall was running over a rock with the sidewall and it ripped a hole in it. You can't repair that.

Yes I do trust my repair bc I take wheel off make sure the leak is due a nail and not a bent wheel or bulging sidewall. You would feel that though when driving. If a plug did fail your tire would just slowly deflate over the course of a couple minutes. I am pretty confident if that happened I could pull over. Like I said before have never had one fail yet and I just plugged one on my wife's civic the other week. Damn roofers left a **** tone of nails in my yard after replacing the roof and they like to wash into the driveways after it rains...

Ahh, I see. Good to know. That is a proper plug job then, forgive me for assuming you were not unmounting/inspecting the wheel. I have heard horror stories about plugs failing at highway speeds and causing severe blowouts as the tire immediately shreds itself. Most likely wost case scenarios but if my daughter's gonna be with me, a risk I'd rather not take at all.
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Old 08-27-2013, 11:46 AM   #16
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Hi guys, figured I'd post here instead of starting a whole new thread. Just got a set of these PS A/S3's in 235/45 ZR17 for my hatch last week. I've only got a few hundred miles on them so far but man are these things sweet!

Far quieter than the Dunlop Sp's which came on the car from the factory, the grip on these all seasons is fantastic. I figured I'd be sacrificing some dry traction over the Sp's in exchange for the all season performance but the loss, if any is very negligable. The feedback and response from these things is awesome. Much more crisp and precise than the Dunlops, they hold firm right to their limit and when they do break away they do so gradually and are very easy to reign back in with a simple throttle adjustment.

Haven't had much of a chance to test the wet weather performance as it's been pretty dry in Socal this past week but if they're anything like the tires they're intended to replace(PS A/S Plus) I'll have no worries as those tires were more than capable on wet surfaces. Throw in some "light" snow capability thanks to the "worm drive" serrations inside the main grooves and these tires sure seem to be true all season UHP's. Time will tell how they hold up to the daily grind that is my drive along I-15 but with a 45,000 mile warranty and the Michellin name, I dont anticipate any problems.

At the $170/tire($40 cheaper than the OEM Dunlops!) I paid these things aren't cheap but they're not totally going to break the bank either. I'll report back once I get to run them in the wet and maybe later this winter after trips to Big Bear and Tahoe but for the time being I'm very impressed with these new Michelins. Oh, and did I mention that I'm averaging +2 mpg since installing them? Score!
Keep us updated when the snow falls. I'm supposed to take delivery in December on a 2014 and these are to be my first install.
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Old 08-29-2013, 10:11 AM   #17
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wonder how they compare to my yoko AD08's let me know also.
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Old 09-01-2013, 01:06 PM   #18
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I have not drive them on Snow or winter conditions, but in summer they rock, in water they are awesome, and from what I know they are good in light winter conditions.... but like any other all season tire I will proceed with caution under heavy winter conditions.
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Old 09-06-2013, 01:37 PM   #19
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The Pilot Sport A/S 3 (W/Y) is the new king of UHP all-season tires, but only for the W/Y+ speed ratings.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=177

When reviewing, make sure you note whether you have the V or W/Y rating tires!
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Old 09-10-2013, 10:55 AM   #20
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And plugs are good enough for 160 on my buddies R1 haha.



Looking forward to light snow reviews on these A/S 3's.
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Old 09-11-2013, 02:10 PM   #21
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Interesting to see they are offering these in different speed ratings. Almost done with my "winter" set of tires and this will certainly be a top choice if they are at least as good as the last generation Pilot Sport A/S in some light snow. Now if only winter could come sooner...
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Old 09-11-2013, 03:53 PM   #22
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Interesting to see they are offering these in different speed ratings. Almost done with my "winter" set of tires and this will certainly be a top choice if they are at least as good as the last generation Pilot Sport A/S in some light snow. Now if only winter could come sooner...
I hear ya, but I can't imagine them being any worse...
Those PS A/S's were sweet and Michellin rarely if ever replaces a tire with one of inferior design. I'm eagerly awaiting an early season trip up to Big Bear to give them a run in the white stuff, I'll report back once I do.

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Old 09-11-2013, 08:56 PM   #23
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Had mine for a few days now and I like them ALOT, it is the first all season tire I can actually say I am happy with.

I had to replace a set of Conti DWSs as they only lasted 20k miles, I used the mileage warranty and only had to pay $100/tire mounted & balanced for the AS3s. They handle so much better in the corners and steering doesn't feel like total crap.

If they do well as the DWSs did in 4-5 inches of snow than Michelin has taken all seasons to a new level. I can't wait for a chance at light snow.

Granted at this point no all season is going to beat a true summer or winter tire, but in Oregon where we are lucky to see 3-4 inches of snow on the ground once or twice every 5 years, this tire is king for year round duty.

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Old 09-25-2013, 04:43 PM   #24
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I've had these on my 2.5i for about 1,500 miles and so far I am really impressed.

These replaced a set of Continental DWS tires that I had on for about 40k miles. The Continentals were great in the snow and decent in the rain but I thought dry grip was only average and steering response was lacking.

The PS A/S 3s have more grip in the dry, are equally good in the rain, and inspire much more confidence around corners. The stiffer sidewall does add a slight bit of ride harshness compared to the DWSs but the increased grip and responsiveness is worth the trade off in my opinion.

These are smooth at highway speeds and noise seems on par with the DWSs. I haven't noticed any real change in gas mileage.

I paid about $170/tire installed which is expensive but these are easily the best all-season tires I've used. I have yet to try them in the snow but I am sure they will be decent.

Highly recommended if you are looking for a high-performance all-season tire.

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