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Old 07-05-2013, 10:02 AM   #1
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Looking to possibly get some more power out of my car. I know the wrx's aren't bulletproof like the stis. But I don't race/track anything. Don't really go to hard on it either and I'm just looking to get it up a little bit for the hell of It.

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K&N Air Filter
Turbo-XS 2" Stainless Turbo Back Exhaust
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Cobb Tuning Access Port -- Stage 2 Map Loaded
EGT (catless) resistor mod
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That's the mod list currently. What would be a safe way to gain some more hps? Just looking for a little insight.
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Old 07-05-2013, 11:49 AM   #2
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Upgrade your injectors and fuel pump and go with an E85 tune. Otherwise it looks like a larger turbo is your next option.
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Old 07-05-2013, 09:37 PM   #3
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So basically you have a turboback and an up pipe. Cheapest option would be a VF-39, STi Pinks, and an E-bay TMIC. You can use your accessport to flash the VF-39 map. It will be a lot faster but leave some power on the table, so an actual tune (you'll need to pick up a Walbro 255lph or DW200 fuel pump) would be preferable.
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Old 07-06-2013, 01:41 AM   #4
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So basically you have a turboback and an up pipe. Cheapest option would be a VF-39, STi Pinks, and an E-bay TMIC. You can use your accessport to flash the VF-39 map. It will be a lot faster but leave some power on the table, so an actual tune (you'll need to pick up a Walbro 255lph or DW200 fuel pump) would be preferable.
I talked to someone from brentuning a while back. (Local tuner) and he said to even tune it they'd suggest getting a fuel pump walbro255 and a electronic boost control solenoid.

On the other hand my dads telling me he doesn't think I need a fuel pump. But Im kind of just starting to ignore him. Lol
Not really sure I want to upgrade the turbo yet.. I don't have thaaat much money to throw down yet. Maybe upwards of 500
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Old 07-06-2013, 02:11 PM   #5
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I talked to someone from brentuning a while back. (Local tuner) and he said to even tune it they'd suggest getting a fuel pump walbro255 and a electronic boost control solenoid.

On the other hand my dads telling me he doesn't think I need a fuel pump. But Im kind of just starting to ignore him. Lol
Not really sure I want to upgrade the turbo yet.. I don't have thaaat much money to throw down yet. Maybe upwards of 500
I know Bren personally, he is a great guy. I highly suggest you let him tune your car.

One of his tunes will definitely need a fuel pump! A less aggressive tune, such as Cobb's, will not use as much fuel. Therefore a Cobb off-the-shelf tune can utilize the stock fuel pump.
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Old 07-07-2013, 12:52 AM   #6
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I know Bren personally, he is a great guy. I highly suggest you let him tune your car.

One of his tunes will definitely need a fuel pump! A less aggressive tune, such as Cobb's, will not use as much fuel. Therefore a Cobb off-the-shelf tune can utilize the stock fuel pump.
Do you think one of his tunes will be too much for my car? Not sure on what the bugeye can handle
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Old 07-07-2013, 08:03 PM   #7
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Upgrade your injectors and fuel pump and go with an E85 tune. Otherwise it looks like a larger turbo is your next option.
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So basically you have a turboback and an up pipe. Cheapest option would be a VF-39, STi Pinks, and an E-bay TMIC. You can use your accessport to flash the VF-39 map. It will be a lot faster but leave some power on the table, so an actual tune (you'll need to pick up a Walbro 255lph or DW200 fuel pump) would be preferable.
Go with this. Although, I'd change it slightly to say buy a quality tmic from a well known manufacturer.
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Old 07-08-2013, 12:58 PM   #8
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Your estimated HP # is inflated by at least 60hp.

Before you do anything else to the car, learn how to drive it.
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Old 07-08-2013, 02:45 PM   #9
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Your estimated HP # is inflated by at least 60hp.

Before you do anything else to the car, learn how to drive it.
That list is just what th guy I bought it from had listed on the Craigslist ad. I haven't gotten it dynod to see the real hp. But I plan too. Just trying to find out a good plan for this car and be able to keep it for years

And why link to a track site? I wouldn't mind actually tracking it. Just not dragging It I guess. I'd love to get out there and track it

And are you saying my car probably only has about 220 hp?
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Old 07-11-2013, 08:42 AM   #10
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Anyone else have any suggestions? And is a Vf-39 by any chance to much on an 02?

And I most likely won't buy any performance parts for my car off eBay.
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Old 07-11-2013, 08:54 AM   #11
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A VF39 isnt too much, either would a 16G for a sensible daily driver. But learn to drive it first.
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Old 07-11-2013, 09:03 AM   #12
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We recommend a fuel pump simply because the stock one gets tired at age not allowing use to dial in a safe AFR. Consider it cheap insurance.
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Old 07-11-2013, 09:34 AM   #13
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We recommend a fuel pump simply because the stock one gets tired at age not allowing use to dial in a safe AFR. Consider it cheap insurance.
I understand. Well see with where the future goes.

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A VF39 isnt too much, either would a 16G for a sensible daily driver. But learn to drive it first.
And why do you say learn to drive? My driving is fine
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Old 07-12-2013, 04:25 PM   #14
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Why would someone post a mod list 33 items long, when maybe 4 of those mods are relevant to making power?

I suspect several people that otherwise may have had good input glazed over and ditched as soon as they saw that tome. You can obviously do what you want, just might get a better response if you change it up a bit.
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Old 07-13-2013, 04:35 PM   #15
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Why would someone post a mod list 33 items long, when maybe 4 of those mods are relevant to making power?

I suspect several people that otherwise may have had good input glazed over and ditched as soon as they saw that tome. You can obviously do what you want, just might get a better response if you change it up a bit.
Because that is the list of my modifications
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Old 07-13-2013, 05:50 PM   #16
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Because that is the list of my modifications
How is ur headunit, bushings and windshield to name a few... beneficial to ppb section is what he is getting at
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Old 07-13-2013, 08:05 PM   #17
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How is ur headunit, bushings and windshield to name a few... beneficial to ppb section is what he is getting at
I know. Ok ill try and edit some out.
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Old 07-15-2013, 12:36 PM   #18
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Bump. Edited mods
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Old 07-15-2013, 12:41 PM   #19
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I doubt your choice of shifter really affects this much.

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K&N Air Filter
Turbo-XS 2" Stainless Turbo Back Exhaust
PDE Flex Up-pipe
Cobb Tuning Access Port -- Stage 2 Map Loaded
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Old 07-15-2013, 01:08 PM   #20
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I doubt your choice of shifter really affects this much.
Ok my bad. Not sure on what is really needed to know. I didn't wanna take away something I shouldn't have. Thanks.
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Old 07-16-2013, 07:47 AM   #21
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I would do injectors. Fuel pump. Ebcs. And hta68 or 16g and eventually go ewg
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Old 07-16-2013, 11:30 AM   #22
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I would do injectors. Fuel pump. Ebcs. And hta68 or 16g and eventually go ewg
Thanks for the insight. I will take that into consideration.
And I really would love to get an ewg. Love that sound

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Old 07-16-2013, 10:17 PM   #23
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Don't get a 68hta. It's a lopsided turbo, doesn't flow anywhere near as much as it should. And you don't need an ewg. If you want the sound so be it, but it's an expensive upgrade for sound.
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