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Old 12-01-2013, 04:58 PM   #776
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That even crossed your line??
Just seemed to fit.
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Old 12-01-2013, 05:41 PM   #777
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Look at all the chinks in the fuselage!
It's an airliner not a chain.
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Old 12-01-2013, 05:46 PM   #778
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It's an airliner not a chain.
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noun: chink; plural noun: chinks
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a narrow opening, typically one that admits light
synonyms: opening, gap, space, hole, aperture, break, breach, crack, fissure, crevice, cranny, cleft, cut, rift, split, slit, slot
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Old 12-01-2013, 05:47 PM   #779
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It's an airliner not a chain.
City Wok is a chain.
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Old 12-15-2013, 02:36 AM   #780
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if you're into this kind of thing:

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Investigative Hearing:
Crash of Asiana Flight 214
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December 11, 2013

This recording includes live simultaneous interpretation of testimony and questions. The official transcript of this investigative hearing is the English language version, which is located in the NTSB docket for NTSB Accident Number DCA13MA120.
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Old 06-30-2014, 01:05 PM   #781
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Old 06-30-2014, 02:35 PM   #782
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So....Pilot flying was an idiot.
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Old 06-30-2014, 02:54 PM   #783
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Old 06-30-2014, 04:13 PM   #784
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I hadn't seen the actual video of the impact until a few days ago.....absolutely astounding there was not greater loss of life.

And when making a visual approach like that in the final segment I don't know how the pilot's eyeballs aren't solely alternating between monitoring the PAPI and his airspeed while maintaining runway heading. Should have been an approach he'd done hundreds of times.
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Old 06-30-2014, 04:16 PM   #785
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PAPI? aimpoint, airspeed...that's it.
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Old 06-30-2014, 04:18 PM   #786
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I've done that 1000 times in BF4 and only crashed once.
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Old 06-30-2014, 04:35 PM   #787
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A culture that doesn't encourage subordinates to question their superiors naturally creates **** pilots.

You can create all the automation and safeguards in the world, and the Koreans will still figure out a way to crash it.
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Old 06-30-2014, 04:44 PM   #788
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I love CG re-enactments of aircraft accidents for some reason. Probably because of how detailed they are.
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Old 06-30-2014, 06:10 PM   #789
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I've done that 1000 times in BF4 and only crashed once.
yup, i could've landed that plane, easy mode m8. srs.

That pilot was a skrub
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Old 06-30-2014, 06:13 PM   #790
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Something something get rekt
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Old 06-30-2014, 06:16 PM   #791
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Dat one time doe...
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Old 06-30-2014, 06:31 PM   #792
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A culture that doesn't encourage subordinates to question their superiors naturally creates **** pilots.

You can create all the automation and safeguards in the world, and the Koreans will still figure out a way to crash it.
This, coupled with a horrifying reliance on the automation. 8 miles out, visibility to the moon, and you are selecting descent rates haphazardly?

EDIT: of course, the auto throttle mode as was theorized proved to be correct. Just a painful event to watch unfold, not to mention how many times the F/O tried to speak up.

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Old 06-30-2014, 06:39 PM   #793
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This, coupled with a horrifying reliance on the automation. 8 miles out, visibility to the moon, and you are selecting descent rates haphazardly?
So, to be clear....

1. Pilot selects autopilot
2. Auto pilot does bad things
3. Pilot doesn't notice / care / can't tell that autopilot is messing up
4. Pilot is responsible for plane...including autopilot behavior
5. Pilot was an idiot
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Old 06-30-2014, 06:47 PM   #794
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No, the autopilot didn't do bad things. The pilot did.

They had ARMED the auto-throttles but were not activated.

You have to ARM and ACTIVATE the auto-throttles to make them work. Plus, if you "click" out of auto-throttles, they remain armed but you have to activate them again for them to actually do something.
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Old 06-30-2014, 06:53 PM   #795
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People land planes in BF4?
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yup, i could've landed that plane, easy mode m8. srs.

That pilot was a skrub
Good thing it wasn't a helicopter.
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Old 06-30-2014, 07:00 PM   #796
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No, the autopilot didn't do bad things. The pilot did.

They had ARMED the auto-throttles but were not activated.

You have to ARM and ACTIVATE the auto-throttles to make them work. Plus, if you "click" out of auto-throttles, they remain armed but you have to activate them again for them to actually do something.
Yeah this is more what I was trying to say. Seems like a poor understanding of the automation, and the PF slow to recognize it all.
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Old 06-30-2014, 07:12 PM   #797
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This, coupled with a horrifying reliance on the automation. 8 miles out, visibility to the moon, and you are selecting descent rates haphazardly?
Unfortunately that is what they are trained to do in other parts of the world. They are trained to operate the autopilot, not fly the airplane.
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Old 06-30-2014, 07:27 PM   #798
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In the days following the accident, I saw a graphic of the glide path of the flight.

It looked like I landed that plane.

It's that much worse watching it played out in the animation
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Old 06-30-2014, 07:39 PM   #799
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People land planes in BF4?


Good thing it wasn't a helicopter.
Yeah, choppers are a diff story. I can't land those. Asked tweeter, blkrice and ****, even you know how horrible of a chopper pilot i am
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