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Old 07-15-2013, 01:49 AM   #1
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I just bought my first Subaru, 2002 WRB WRX, and went stage 1 immediately with a drop in k&n filter with a tune.

I was curious if an Invidia Bellmouth DP, HKS Hi-Power CBE, and a tune or Cobb AP would qualify/work as a stage 2?

I was also curious if it would be a necessity for me to go with a Cobb AP or if i could get a proper tuning to work just as well?

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Old 07-15-2013, 01:50 AM   #2
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I already have a Catless Perrin Uppipe, STI Springs, and a Turbo Timer.
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Old 07-15-2013, 05:19 AM   #3
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To answer your questions yes a tbe with tune is stage 2. And no an ap is not necessary you can use olensource tune. I highly encourage you to do lots of research. If you have to ask these questions you are not ready to mod. Read unibombers manifesto at the top section in the stickies.
p.s. the turbo timer is not needed and a waste of money on our cars
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Old 07-15-2013, 07:45 AM   #4
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do a search for "first mods"

Please.

PS - Why is a turbo timer a waste of money? It leaves the car running without the key to cool down. Nothing wrong with that. No detriment.
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Old 07-15-2013, 08:16 AM   #5
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Think he already has the turbo timer anyways.. But it is a waste of money to buy one, you do not need one on the Wrx it is oil and coolant cooled so it continues to circulate coolant even when the vehicle is powered off. Won't hurt anything if he already has it but it is not needed.
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Old 07-15-2013, 08:59 AM   #6
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As the first poster said the only thing that stage 2 means is a downpipe (catless or high flow cat) and a tune. For tuning you can use the access port if you want or you can get an open source tune. Do a little research and you can find tons of info on all of that. Do lots of research before you purchase anything.
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Old 07-15-2013, 09:53 AM   #7
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Old 07-15-2013, 10:02 AM   #8
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Default Hello!!!!

Im in the same boat.
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Old 07-15-2013, 10:18 AM   #9
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You should have immediatly searched or began reading threads based upon the questions asked.

Ditch that K&N filter.....it will do nothing but blow grease/oil from the element.

Install everything at once, and rid yourself of the cat in the up pipe....engine management is something you buy based upon what you are looking for out of a perticular engine management system, and who can tune it in your area.

There are other forms of engine management, it is a shame that new guys are

ap, ap, ap, ap, ap, ap, ap...and why, most dont know how to even USE the thing let alone an OBD2 scanner.

See that you left a wideband and boost guage off that list.
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Old 07-15-2013, 11:29 AM   #10
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Yes OP, that would qualify as Stage 2. Just the downpipe with a tune alone would qualify, let alone an entire TBE.

An AP is used for a lot of things and not JUST a tune. You can use it to record important engine data. Regarding the Cobb AP no, it is not a necessity. But you don't want to drive your newly modded car without a tune, so I would recommend an opensource tune.
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Old 07-15-2013, 01:38 PM   #11
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Thanks for the responses. I'm not a newbie all about ap, it was a simple question. And the reason i asked the question in the first place is because i've been reaserching like crazy and as i'm familiar to upgrading parts; the whole tuning/maps/opensource is new to me and not making sense on the threads i have read. I've read the manifesto inside and out 100x's.
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Old 07-15-2013, 01:45 PM   #12
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Thanks for the responses. I'm not a newbie all about ap, it was a simple question. And the reason i asked the question in the first place is because i've been reaserching like crazy and as i'm familiar to upgrading parts; the whole tuning/maps/opensource is new to me and not making sense on the threads i have read. I've read the manifesto inside and out 100x's.
If you had a question about the Cobb stages, your first stop should be to the Cobb website to read the map notes on Cobb's Stage 2. Not here. We can probably answer it too, but always go straight to the source. Especially when it comes to tuning.
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Old 07-16-2013, 03:34 AM   #13
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tbe with a stg 2 tune will wake the car up
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Old 07-16-2013, 08:31 AM   #14
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WRXBriggs,

W/o sounding like a philosopher, what do you want out of the vehicle? Daily driven performance? Efficiency? Raw un-adulterated face mashing girlfriend scared POWAAAAA?

I'm in the same boat as you, just purchased my STi a few weeks ago and the itch to tune is so great that it makes a heroin addict look like a whiney toddler (ignore the Trainspotting reference).

Enjoy your car mate, if you take care of it, you'll have all the time in the world to shape it just the way you want.

Cheers,

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Old 07-17-2013, 12:16 AM   #15
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WRXBriggs,

W/o sounding like a philosopher, what do you want out of the vehicle? Daily driven performance? Efficiency? Raw un-adulterated face mashing girlfriend scared POWAAAAA?

I'm in the same boat as you, just purchased my STi a few weeks ago and the itch to tune is so great that it makes a heroin addict look like a whiney toddler (ignore the Trainspotting reference).

Enjoy your car mate, if you take care of it, you'll have all the time in the world to shape it just the way you want.

Cheers,

Roger
Hahaha i like the comparison. It is my dd, but i'm looking for 300hp as my final result down the line. And i know i can do that safely and efficiently. Any ideas for yours yet?
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Old 07-17-2013, 12:27 AM   #16
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do a search for "first mods"

Please.

PS - Why is a turbo timer a waste of money? It leaves the car running without the key to cool down. Nothing wrong with that. No detriment.
Some people consider them a waste of time on stock applications because not too many people drive it hard enough in city conditions to warrant the use of a turbo timer since the turbo already has coolant flowing through it helping reduce oil temps.....

or something like that
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