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Old 10-04-2013, 03:46 PM   #1
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Default K&N Typhoon kit-good place to start?

I read an article on easy mods for easy HP gains and the K&N typhoon kit was the first simple step. I've found them online for around 225.00, is this the best add-on to start with? Thanks,

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Old 10-04-2013, 03:47 PM   #2
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Not unless you have a tune in mind for that intake already. That'll set you back at least another 200
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Old 10-04-2013, 03:59 PM   #3
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What article was this? Was it written for WRXs? Turbo cars in general? Or was it written for Joe Shmoe in a Pontiac Grand Am?

What car do you even drive?

In general, no, intakes are not a good first mod for our cars. They are expensive, most of them require a tune to keep the engine from blowing up, and they do absolutely nothing for power on a stock car.
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Old 10-04-2013, 05:04 PM   #4
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I drive a 06 WRX, and the article is from C&D for WRX's. They mention a tune but not until you at least have an exhaust/DP/Intake combo. Here's the link..

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...ru-wrx-feature
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Old 10-04-2013, 06:17 PM   #5
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Why rely on a car magazine that isn't specified for our vehicles, AND is written for a damn 2009+?

Honestly, read Unabombers Manifesto and learn. You put on an intake you need a tune. Your BEST intake is your STOCK intake.

Depending on your budget, a downpipe and tune combo will be the best, and largest bang for your buck.
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Old 10-04-2013, 06:55 PM   #6
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From everytHing I read. Stock intake is good up to about 350whp
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Old 10-04-2013, 07:14 PM   #7
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Your first purchase should be an accessport with a stage one "off the shelf" map for your car. And then you will have an accessport to support your mods that you will purchase in the future. Check out Cobb tuning or Perrin performance for the accessport maps and the info they have on there websites. Accessport is the easy way to support mods without getting your car professionally tuned by someone that knows what they are doing. If you don't have the right "tune" for the mods you could cause damage to your engine. That would not be a good time then.
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Old 10-04-2013, 08:10 PM   #8
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From everytHing I read. Stock intake is good up to about 350whp
Higher
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Old 10-05-2013, 05:45 PM   #9
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Higher
Yep. I read over 400.
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Just because it can make that power doesn't mean a properly tuned aftermarket intake won't make more.
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Old 10-06-2013, 07:07 AM   #11
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thanks everyone, thats why I ask the questions...SO...WITH THAT SAID, a downpipe on stock exhaust with a tune will be the best first mod? ALSO, should I get the accessport at the same time? THANKS AGAIN FOR THE ADVICE, I really appreciate it!
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Old 10-06-2013, 09:13 AM   #12
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thanks everyone, thats why I ask the questions...SO...WITH THAT SAID, a downpipe on stock exhaust with a tune will be the best first mod? ALSO, should I get the accessport at the same time? THANKS AGAIN FOR THE ADVICE, I really appreciate it!
yes you should def buy those together, so that when you install the DP, you can get it tuned immediately.
Secondly your best bet is to get them together is because i always see vendors on here selling that combo, so in additon to the power gains, you'll also see some wallet gains too.
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Old 10-06-2013, 12:16 PM   #13
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a downpipe on stock exhaust with a tune will be the best first mod?
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ALSO, should I get the accessport at the same time?
I'm not sure I understand the question. The tune needs to come at the same time as the downpipe. If you decide to use the AP to tune the car, then yes you need to get it at the same time so you can tune it when you install the downpipe. If you decide to use another means of tuning the car (eg: opensource), then you won't be using an AP at all, so there's no need to buy one period. So you either need to buy the AP before the downpipe (so you have it ready when you install the downpipe), at the same time as the downpipe, or don't buy it at all and tune your car another way.
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Just because it can make that power doesn't mean a properly tuned aftermarket intake won't make more.
Im sure it will. Dont fix it if its not broken though....the majority of drivers doing moderate mods are seeing 350-450 hp. If you are after serious power...serious mods and tuning are necissary like you say...so of course it will.
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K & N is on my car. Bought it with it. Happy with it and the sound. I don't plan on going over 350 so ill probably stick with it in my case. You don't really need a CAI as said above the stock is fine for huge gains.

The K & N is a good starter but you'll most likely need a tune: if you plan on adding more I would get the intake, down pipe and exhaust (if this is your desired future route) and do then all at once and get a tune. Doing it all separate can be more costly in my opinion
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K & N is on my car. Bought it with it. Happy with it and the sound. I don't plan on going over 350 so ill probably stick with it in my case. You don't really need a CAI as said above the stock is fine for huge gains.

The K & N is a good starter but you'll most likely need a tune: if you plan on adding more I would get the intake, down pipe and exhaust (if this is your desired future route) and do then all at once and get a tune. Doing it all separate can be more costly in my opinion
Not "most likely need", you WILL need a tune. No questions. This is 10000% more important for 08+ WRX's and STI's.
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Old 10-06-2013, 10:01 PM   #17
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If your planning on running an intake be careful combining this with a catless downpipe (especially at sea level). Sometimes guys run this combo to either cut cost or add another 10-15whp, but it can lead to boost creep issues which can't always be fixed with a tune. To avoid boost creep with that combo you typically have to run an EWG setup which can cost you easily another 400+ dollars in parts combined with a pro-tune.

As the others have mentioned a Cobb Accessport and downpipe (Cobb or Invidia) combo would net some nice initial gains over a stock setup. Not to mention it is a safer and more reliable map for your car. Usually there are some great deals during Black Friday if you can wait to take advantage of those deals.

For additional performance mods might I recommend sway bars and endlinks. Even thought these aren't power mods they make a noticeable difference with handling and make the car feel more planted during turns.

The Cobb Accessport and Cobb Downpipe along with Eibach sways and Rallitek endlinks, and KartBoy short shifter and shifter bushings have been my favorite and most valuable mods to date. I'm still running a stock intake and don't plan to change that up until I'm behind Stage 3. Just my 2 cents...

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