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Old 08-23-2013, 06:03 PM   #1
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Default Drilling through Seibon Carbon

Recently purchased a grill for my 08 from Seibon and received it to notice there were no pre-drilled holes (despite pictures on their website showing pre-drilled holes) to mount it, clips or directions Apparently this is standard, shame on me for not doing research before spending my life savings

part of me wants to return it/sell it and part of me says "yolo" just drill it and get it on.

Any advice on drilling through the carbon? maybe someone with some experience have some tips? I have very little experience with a drill let alone carbon fiber.

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Old 08-23-2013, 06:04 PM   #2
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Recently purchased a grill for my 08 from Seibon and received it to notice there were no pre-drilled holes (despite pictures on their website showing pre-drilled holes) to mount it, clips or directions Apparently this is standard, shame on me for not doing research before spending my life savings

part of me wants to return it/sell it and part of me says "yolo" just drill it and get it on.

Any advice on drilling through the carbon? maybe someone with some experience have some tips? I have very little experience with a drill let alone carbon fiber.

thanks
Are you sure it's not a replica?
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Old 08-23-2013, 06:09 PM   #3
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1000% positive, came directly from Seibon, box, wrapping invoice, the whole 9 yards
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Old 08-23-2013, 06:12 PM   #4
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start small, work your way up. If you don't know what it is you're doing I suggest having a shop or a friend who knows what he's doing take care of this for you.
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Old 08-23-2013, 06:39 PM   #5
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If i have to take it to a shop and spend another 200 plus tax for them to install it i should have just spent the money and gotten the chargespeed one (comes pre drilled)

how hard can it be to drill this thing in all honesty? if i practice drilling holes in my wall and then upgrade to a piece of fiber glass, a couple 100 holes and ill be a pro right?

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Old 08-23-2013, 07:46 PM   #6
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If i have to take it to a shop and spend another 200 plus tax for them to install it i should have just spent the money and gotten the chargespeed one (comes pre drilled)

how hard can it be to drill this thing in all honesty? if i practice drilling holes in my wall and then upgrade to a piece of fiber glass, a couple 100 holes and ill be a pro right?
Here's the real question. What sort of hardware are you using to attach the hood to the hinges? Factory? The bolts need threads/threaded inserts/nuts on the other side to bolt into.

Post pics of the mounting locations and hardware.
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Old 08-23-2013, 07:53 PM   #7
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Here's the real question. What sort of hardware are you using to attach the hood to the hinges? Factory? The bolts need threads/threaded inserts/nuts on the other side to bolt into.

Post pics of the mounting locations and hardware.
More details would make it easier to see how difficult it would be. Pictures!
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Old 08-23-2013, 07:56 PM   #8
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Here's the real question. What sort of hardware are you using to attach the hood to the hinges? Factory? The bolts need threads/threaded inserts/nuts on the other side to bolt into.

Post pics of the mounting locations and hardware.
well its a grill not a hood, the gap for the stock hood lock seems good, there's the same amount of clearance as the stock one.

the sad part i measured everything out and as far as i can tell, this grill is a perfect fit to the Oem, so why they wouldn't pre-drill holes in it blows my mind.

just lazy
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Old 08-23-2013, 08:05 PM   #9
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measure 3 times, then recheck your measurement.
put tape down
drill a small pilot hole
then check the alignment
adjust the hole as needed with next bigger drill bit until you get up to the size you need.

don't say "yolo" say "I'm going to DIY this and learn something"
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here so in this picture the indents on the top should have holes for the stock plastic pins(clips whatever) to hold the upper portion of the grill in place


here the pertruding tabs used to hold the lower portion of the grill in place are either missing the clips or bolts that secure them ( i havent had a chance to take the oem grill off yet to see under there)

(actually a bad picture ill try to take another)
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well its a grill not a hood, the gap for the stock hood lock seems good, there's the same amount of clearance as the stock one.

the sad part i measured everything out and as far as i can tell, this grill is a perfect fit to the Oem, so why they wouldn't pre-drill holes in it blows my mind.

just lazy


I missed that part of the OP.


Seems pretty standard. Start small, use a sharp bit, and work your way up.
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Old 08-23-2013, 08:09 PM   #12
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measure 3 times, then recheck your measurement.
put tape down
drill a small pilot hole
then check the alignment
adjust the hole as needed with next bigger drill bit until you get up to the size you need.

don't say "yolo" say "I'm going to DIY this and learn something"

would you recommend taping both sides? ive read on other forums to do that and to drill through into a piece of wood.

thanks for the tips
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would you recommend taping both sides? ive read on other forums to do that and to drill through into a piece of wood.

thanks for the tips
yes, tape both sides using painters tape, backed with a chunk of wood.

Start small, drill a pilot then work your way up.
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Old 08-23-2013, 09:48 PM   #14
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and id go buy some GOOD drill bits......not the ones ya get at walmart or lowes or someplace like that.......and use tape and a wood block on the back side

and just an idea...but could you make some mounting tabs and epoxy them to the grill and just not drill it at all???

and did ya google 'drilling carbon fiber' yet ???
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I would recommend making a template off the stock grill with some cardboard and masking tape. This will assure the holes line up perfectly
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Do not use drill bits . . . They have a major tendency to dive in too fast and spider crack the hole, no matter how careful you are.

Use a dremel with a 1/8" carbide end mill that has a plunging tip. I cut CF all the time and this is what you want. Also speed is your friend with these, faster = less pressure, and that will cause less chance of you screwing it up by pushing the bit when side cutting too hard.

Freaking hard to post pics via cell phone, so just go to this web addy for what I'm talking about.


http://drillbitsunlimited.com/Chip-B...-P3205597.aspx
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Old 08-24-2013, 02:39 PM   #17
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Well it appears this grill is even crappier than I expected... The tabs at the bottom don't even line up to stock bumper I'm not even gonna waste my time trying to fit this garbage.

Thanks for the tips but this thing isn't going on

I will post pictures for you to see, when I get home

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Old 08-24-2013, 06:26 PM   #18
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as previously stated, i tried to mount this grill today and it just was not happening. the one tab is so crooked and misaligned the only way to moung this would be to either cut the tab off all together or cut into my front fender. Not to mention there are no posts for the 4 lower screrws that hold the oem grill in place.
NOw im sure there is a chance im doing something wrong as im a novice at this stuff, but take a look see for yourself and tell me what you see. Of course Seibon and MAP performance are not in the office today so nothing can be said from them about the product until monday.

here are some pictures so you can see the mis aligned tab, which happened to go unnoticed when i opened the grill from seibon directly.





heres it attempting to be lined up to the fender itself


as a side note to really make this thing look good the top part of the fender that the grill attaches too would need to be painted black other wise behind the carbon fiber grill you would see white? kinda defeats the purpose.


ps not proof reading this must go out too angry
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