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Old 08-26-2013, 12:07 PM   #1
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Default Has anyone changed their own CVT fluid yet?

Just wondering if anyone has done this on their own yet?

As far as I have read, the Subaru fluid is only available in barrels and I am afraid of voiding the powertrain warranty or asking for problems by using Redline or something else. Some vendor needs to start breaking this down into quarts like Fred Beans and others did with Xtra-S.

Anyone yet? Too early?
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Old 08-26-2013, 01:30 PM   #2
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I think if you take a few jugs most dealers will sell you some. I know someone has changed it but cant recall who.
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Old 08-26-2013, 01:55 PM   #3
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I don't think the cvt has a drain plug, I just remember the svc manager mentioning it when I said I do my own oil and his comment was 'well with the new cvt's nobody will be making the mistake of draining the transmission instead of the oil because the cvt does not have a drain plug'. I don't know for sure and I have not been under far enough to look for one, I have only gotten back as far as the oil pan drain yesterday when I did my oil. I also got the impression the CVT is not serviceable in the vehicle, don't know, just starting to learn these subi's or at least mine.
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Old 08-26-2013, 02:13 PM   #4
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Theyre not something most would attempt to service themselves. But a few hardy souls have done it.
Probably sucked the fluid out through the top.
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Old 08-26-2013, 02:23 PM   #5
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I don't think the cvt has a drain plug, I just remember the svc manager mentioning it when I said I do my own oil and his comment was 'well with the new cvt's nobody will be making the mistake of draining the transmission instead of the oil because the cvt does not have a drain plug'. I don't know for sure and I have not been under far enough to look for one, I have only gotten back as far as the oil pan drain yesterday when I did my oil. I also got the impression the CVT is not serviceable in the vehicle, don't know, just starting to learn these subi's or at least mine.
Bogus info from the service manager,

Nickottowaontario was already on the forum -- attempted an oil change and accidentally drained the CVT fluid...unless he/she pulled it out via the dipstick tube for the CVT (is there one?) there is a plug, probably using a torx bit, located near the oil drain plug.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...ight=cvt+fluid

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Old 08-26-2013, 03:10 PM   #6
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There ya go^
I knew someone on here had done this.
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Old 08-27-2013, 06:39 PM   #7
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I was just underneath mine the other day and I can confirm that there is a drain plug. If you find the front differential plug labeled "DIFF OIL" then just look behind that and you will see a black oil pan, that is the CVT Fluid Pan. The drain plug is on the back of that pan and the fill plug is on the side of the pan. If you just do a drain and fill you will not be able to get out all the old fluid but as the old saying goes, "The only solution to pollution is dilution."


You do not have to use the Subaru fluid if you do not want too. As long as a CVTF is meets or exceeds the Subaru standards then you will be fine. Valvoline, Redline, and Eneos all have CVTFs that meet or exceed the Subaru standards.

Valvoline CVT Fluid, $10/Quart
http://www.valvoline.com/pdf/cvt_fluid.pdf

Eneos CVT Fluid, $12/Quart
http://www.eneos.us/product/7

Redline Non-slip CVT Fluid, $14/Quart
http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?product=30804
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Old 08-27-2013, 09:32 PM   #8
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Eneos is supposed to be really good stuff...
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Old 09-09-2013, 12:31 AM   #9
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If you Google Eneos Subaru CVT you will find that Eneos is not compatible with Subaru's "E CVT/i-CVT Fluid" - which I presume is the new chain drive "Lineartronic" CVT. It's good for metal belt CVT's, but chain drive CVT's are a different animal.
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Old 10-07-2013, 05:18 PM   #10
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My friend has a '13 Impreza that he just accidently drained the CVT fluid. He is wondering how to fill it back up? Where do you fill it from?
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Old 10-07-2013, 05:58 PM   #11
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My friend has a '13 Impreza that he just accidently drained the CVT fluid. He is wondering how to fill it back up? Where do you fill it from?
I have located the answer. A tow truck is on its way
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Old 10-08-2013, 12:18 AM   #12
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Wow, another one of these $300 accidents.
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Old 10-09-2013, 06:52 AM   #13
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My friend has a '13 Impreza that he just accidently drained the CVT fluid. He is wondering how to fill it back up? Where do you fill it from?
From what I have read on this forum, the fill procedure involves filling, warming up, shifting the transmission through all the gears, (P,R,D,M), and back. Then with the engine still running, put the car on a lift and recheck the fluid level, topping it off if needed. This is through an opening under the car. IIRC, there is no dip stick.

As an aside, someone on the board had the dealer change the fluid, as well as replace the metal mesh filter inside the transmission. At about 10,000 miles, there was evidently lots of metal bits that had been trapped by the filter. (Initial break in wear stuff. Don't get too excited.) Anyway, Subaru has the first service way out in miles, but I too like the idea of getting any initial debris from break in out of there. Personally, I think that is better for the long run. I plan on having this done to mine either soon or in the Spring.

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Old 10-09-2013, 08:18 AM   #14
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As an aside, someone on the board had the dealer change the fluid, as well as replace the metal mesh filter inside the transmission. At about 10,000 miles, there was evidently lots of metal bits that had been trapped by the filter
That was me. At first the service tech said I should get a new filter ($79) but when I saw it was metal, I said no way! I honestly don't see a need to ever replace an all metal filter. A good splash around and rinse in the part washer had it looking like new again.
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Old 05-23-2014, 07:45 AM   #15
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I was just underneath mine the other day and I can confirm that there is a drain plug. If you find the front differential plug labeled "DIFF OIL" then just look behind that and you will see a black oil pan, that is the CVT Fluid Pan. The drain plug is on the back of that pan and the fill plug is on the side of the pan. If you just do a drain and fill you will not be able to get out all the old fluid but as the old saying goes, "The only solution to pollution is dilution."


You do not have to use the Subaru fluid if you do not want too. As long as a CVTF is meets or exceeds the Subaru standards then you will be fine. Valvoline, Redline, and Eneos all have CVTFs that meet or exceed the Subaru standards.

Valvoline CVT Fluid, $10/Quart
http://www.valvoline.com/pdf/cvt_fluid.pdf

Eneos CVT Fluid, $12/Quart
http://www.eneos.us/product/7

Redline Non-slip CVT Fluid, $14/Quart
http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?product=30804
AMSOIL recently released their CVT fluid which meets the Subaru Lineartronic® CVTF (P/N K0425Y0710) requirements. It is going for $9.95/quart shipped with the preferred customer discount or $14.48/quart shipped without the discount.
http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-produc...?code=CVTQT-EA
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Old 05-26-2014, 05:08 PM   #16
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yes on a manual 2001 bugeye and was not that hard just takes a wile to refill
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Old 05-26-2014, 09:13 PM   #17
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Can anyone confirm this ?

Mine just had a major 48 month Service, I asked if the CVT fluid was done the Subaru Service manager advised they did the diffs but never change out the CVT fluid in the new Imprezas as the oil is considered a lifetime oil ?
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Can anyone confirm this ?

Mine just had a major 48 month Service, I asked if the CVT fluid was done the Subaru Service manager advised they did the diffs but never change out the CVT fluid in the new Imprezas as the oil is considered a lifetime oil ?
Nonsense. Engine oil, gear oil and transmission fluid deteriorate over time and loose their ability to lubricate, cool and clean. Even if you don't use your car for towing, I would change it anyway. If you plan on keeping your car for the long haul like I am, insurance is cheap and repairs are not.

The car is only 2 years old car so is the "48 month service" really a 60,000+ service?
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The car is only 2 years old car so is the "48 month service" really a 60,000+ service?
The 48 month service is only 30,000 miles, how many miles before the CVT oil should be changed do you know what Subaru recommends ?
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The 48 month service is only 30,000 miles, how many miles before the CVT oil should be changed do you know what Subaru recommends ?

Alright, the U.S models 30 months is 30,000 miles but I reached that after 19 months.

The service manual only tells you to inspect the CVT fluid every 30K under schedule 1 and to replace every 24,855 miles under schedule 2 if you repeatedly tow a trailer. 24,855?!?!

I had my CVT fluid changed at 10,000 miles because of the metal shavings that came out of the differentials. I assumed the transmission would have some too and it did, a lot.
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Old 05-27-2014, 06:49 AM   #21
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I thought the manual said towing was verboten? ?
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Old 05-27-2014, 09:01 AM   #22
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I thought the manual said towing was verboten? ?
Mine has genuine Subaru accessory tow bar but I removed it early as it hung too low under the rear bumper bar making steepish driveways a most interesting game of not scraping.
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Old 05-27-2014, 10:12 AM   #23
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I had my CVT fluid changed at 10,000 miles because of the metal shavings that came out of the differentials. I assumed the transmission would have some too and it did, a lot.
Metal shavings? Out of the CVT?? YIKES.

Was the pan dropped to determine this or was it just the 'paste' blob that forms on a typical drain plug magnet?

I've done a lot of ATF changes, both pan drops and drain plug drain/fills. You might see a metallic speckle on a magnet or filter, but I've never seen all out shavings on a trans that hasn't grenaded.
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Metal shavings? Out of the CVT?? YIKES. Was the pan dropped to determine this or was it just the 'paste' blob that forms on a typical drain plug magnet? I've done a lot of ATF changes, both pan drops and drain plug drain/fills. You might see a metallic speckle on a magnet or filter, but I've never seen all out shavings on a trans that hasn't grenaded.
Yes, shavings not graphite looking goop stuck on a magnet. I wish I had taken a picture of it. They were in the metal screen and the pan was dropped.

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Cool pic non the less! That's the first I've seen of the newer Subaru CVT with the pan dropped. Looks like an Electrolux vacuum cleaner motor all up in there.
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