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Improved fuel economy 4 28.57%
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Old 09-28-2013, 09:33 AM   #51
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No. You'd get better mpg if you went 55 or slower. I get 42 when I go 55.
That's nice. No possible way to drive 55 in the LI/NYC area unless you want to be the cause of road rage behind you!
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Old 09-28-2013, 09:55 AM   #52
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That's nice. No possible way to drive 55 in the LI/NYC area unless you want to be the cause of road rage behind you!
I know that's right, lol! Especially on northern state parkway since its two lanes up to wantagh parkway.
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Old 09-28-2013, 11:45 AM   #53
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On my third tank with both cars so far slight increase in mpg it did get cold here for a little and then warmed up so mpg numbers have been all over the place. My car wasn't loud at idle now it's so freaking quiet I can't hear it I turned off radio and etc and tried but she is definitely more quiet and has a bit more kick. I will continue using the oil and as I posted earlier Walmart sells a 2 stroke syringe in the same area they sell the oil so you can get that for easy measurements
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Old 09-28-2013, 01:24 PM   #54
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I need another one...
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Old 09-28-2013, 02:24 PM   #55
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Just get a gal. bottle from Walmart. Using a medicine cup from my caught medicine. Perfect 1oz cup for the job. Will post result after a few fill up
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Old 09-28-2013, 02:34 PM   #56
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Unfortunately for me, all my e0 sources are now gone (stupid state mandate). So I will now be basing all my mpg improvements on whether or not I still get what I used to with e0 as historically I would see a 10% loss with e10.

I did forget to put some in my Buick, and I did see an immediate mpg hit however, and the idle was much rougher. I put some back in last night after a fill up and the idle is smooth again today. Polyurethane motor mounts are great for torque, but horrible for vibrations...Lol
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Old 09-28-2013, 07:11 PM   #57
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Filled up the Subaru today. Same stupid high winds + e10= worst mpg since 8/8/13, 29.1mpg. But this was also mostly 80mph on the highway, 30mph winds, e10, tc-w3, 45 min of idling cleaning out a/c system.

I really can't complain
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Old 09-28-2013, 08:58 PM   #58
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Filled up the Subaru today. Same stupid high winds + e10= worst mpg since 8/8/13, 29.1mpg. But this was also mostly 80mph on the highway, 30mph winds, e10, tc-w3, 45 min of idling cleaning out a/c system. I really can't complain
Oh come on, I'm not sure I've ever heard you complain. Sometimes we just need to vent, lol. So, went to around 8XXX' elev today. I was climbing in 2nd gear at over 5000 rpm ( cause 3rd would lose speed) in M mode, and my mpg gauge on dash wouldn't go much below half way. At home at 1300' elev it'll peg - under light to mid acceleration. My mpg is well above 33 driving high rpm in low gears, then 80+ on interstate at this elev. So, not a new novel idea but those of us normally closer to sea level are getting much better performance and less mpg than those at higher elev, driving much harsher. I ran a tank without 2CO, then with while I've been here, and even tho I'm only 80 + - miles on later tank, it's running with less vibration and seems injectors are quieter.

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Old 09-29-2013, 05:26 PM   #59
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This weekend I covered 550+ miles over 2000+ foot elevation swings and occasional A/C usage on 87E10+2CO and averaged 42.0 MPG.

This is the best my car has done on a whole tank of E10.

Testing continues...

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Old 09-29-2013, 11:08 PM   #60
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This weekend I covered 550+ miles over 2000+ foot elevation swings and occasional A/C usage on 87E10+2CO and averaged 42.0 MPG.

This is the best my car has done on a whole tank of E10.

Testing continues...
my current tank is looking like another good one, especially considering e10 in the tank.
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Old 09-30-2013, 03:01 AM   #61
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Old 10-01-2013, 08:06 AM   #62
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Well I rode the bike yesterday, averaged 38mpg @ 80mph on the interstate w/ e10 & tcw3. Normally that would be in the 33-35mpg range w/ e0...
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Old 10-01-2013, 09:44 AM   #63
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After adding the TC-W3 for 2 days. I can say there are some difference. Car idols much quieter, especially in the cooler morning, and having smoother less jerky ride over all. Also seems to help the mpg, especially in stop and go traffic or local driving. I have been stuck in crappy traffic last 2 days, MPG doesn't seem to drop too much.
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Old 10-01-2013, 10:43 AM   #64
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I drove up to Maine last weekend with over an hour of stop and go traffic and averaged 35 MPG, 133 miles total and 31 minutes total over 70 mph.
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Old 10-01-2013, 02:33 PM   #65
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I've been buying E0 89 since June and have use MMO since February. I'm starting to wonder if it's even necessary to buy E0 gas if you are adding MMO or TC-W3 to it.
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Old 10-01-2013, 05:51 PM   #66
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Well I rode the bike yesterday, averaged 38mpg @ 80mph on the interstate w/ e10 & tcw3. Normally that would be in the 33-35mpg range w/ e0...
Man, I don't know how you're achieving those numbers. My commute averages me 26-27 mpg, while highway runs of 140 miles @ 70-72 mph bumps it up to 29. I've ever busted the 30 mpg mark. This is hand calculated, not the on-board indicator.

Time for me to jump into this little TC-W3 experiment.
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Old 10-01-2013, 06:47 PM   #67
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Try ring free from Yamaha.

Look at Craigslist for Jetski 2stroke I picked up 3 full cases of Kawasaki for 20$.yamalube is awesome also
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Old 10-01-2013, 06:55 PM   #68
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Man, I don't know how you're achieving those numbers. My commute averages me 26-27 mpg, while highway runs of 140 miles @ 70-72 mph bumps it up to 29. I've ever busted the 30 mpg mark. This is hand calculated, not the on-board indicator.

Time for me to jump into this little TC-W3 experiment.
I'm in the same boat as you. I barely ever break the 30 mpg barrier. Not calling anyone a liar, but its almost hard to believe some are getting high 30's and even breaking into the 40's!

I've been following this thread from the beginning and am anxious to try some 2CO once I finally get my car back from the shop. I'd be happy if I gained a 1/2 mpg extra.
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Old 10-01-2013, 07:01 PM   #69
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Mine is measured straight from the obd2 port, so I assume it's pretty accurate. Hard to tell how much the tc-w3 is helping, but I did put in a new air filter last week so that may help as well.
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Old 10-01-2013, 08:51 PM   #70
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Man, I don't know how you're achieving those numbers. My commute averages me 26-27 mpg, while highway runs of 140 miles @ 70-72 mph bumps it up to 29. I've ever busted the 30 mpg mark. This is hand calculated, not the on-board indicator.

Time for me to jump into this little TC-W3 experiment.
well....i did say that was on my bike (2005 Yamaha vstar 1100)

my normal commute has been netting me 30.5ish in my impreza while using the tcw3. my commute consists of 37 miles interstate at 80-85 (because i can't seem to wake up that extra 5 minutes earlier) and 4 stop lights, 3 stop signs, 4 total miles driving under 40mph, and then another 3.5 @ 60mph.

on my way home I either drive 70-72 or 55mph depending on which route I take and how quickly I want to be home, ie how late it is in the day determines my route
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Old 10-01-2013, 08:52 PM   #71
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I've been buying E0 89 since June and have use MMO since February. I'm starting to wonder if it's even necessary to buy E0 gas if you are adding MMO or TC-W3 to it.
that is what i'm thinking too. and tcw3 other than the hassle of filling it, is much cheaper than e0 per tank
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Old 10-01-2013, 09:02 PM   #72
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Not calling anyone a liar, but its almost hard to believe some are getting high 30's and even breaking into the 40's!
That's why I posted a pic of 49.2 MPG. Under ideal conditions with a good fuel mix and maybe some mods, low 50's are probably within reach.

I'm going to alternate between tanks of 87E0 and 87E10, both with 2CO.
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Old 10-02-2013, 08:22 AM   #73
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That's why I posted a pic of 49.2 MPG. Under ideal conditions with a good fuel mix and maybe some mods, low 50's are probably within reach.

I'm going to alternate between tanks of 87E0 and 87E10, both with 2CO.

I think it's possible, because Commander Keen is doing 40mph on 87E0 with 2CO. Too bad, no road on my commute is like that, I'm happy when I see 30MPG after using this mix.
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Old 10-02-2013, 08:36 AM   #74
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well....i did say that was on my bike (2005 Yamaha vstar 1100)

ooooooooohhhhhhhh!!!!!!!! Totally missed that.

My bike doesn't seem to get the mpg that other riders claim to get, so I'll throw some into the tank to see what happens.
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Old 10-02-2013, 11:56 AM   #75
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ooooooooohhhhhhhh!!!!!!!! Totally missed that.

My bike doesn't seem to get the mpg that other riders claim to get, so I'll throw some into the tank to see what happens.
I'm trying the stuff in everything I run that burns fuel and am posting all results in this thread. I still have yet to vote, but it is leaving towards improvents and will continue to run
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